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Benzo 03-24-2011 11:47 PM

Wanna feel dumb??
 

Benzo 03-24-2011 11:50 PM

5:15- "I can now simplify this"

*Benzo's Head Explodes*

Benzo 03-24-2011 11:54 PM

Wow

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A 12-year-old child prodigy has astounded university professors after grappling with some of the most advanced concepts in mathematics.
Jacob Barnett has an IQ of 170 - higher than Albert Einstein - and is now so far advanced in his Indiana university studies that professors are lining him up for a PHD research role.
The boy wonder, who taught himself calculus, algebra, geometry and trigonometry in a week, is now tutoring fellow college classmates after hours.
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Gifted: Jacob Barnett is so far ahead of his age group he is now leaving university he is developing his own theory on how the universe came into being
And now Jake has embarked on his most ambitious project yet - his own 'expanded version of Einstein's theory of relativity'.
His mother, not sure if her child was talking nonsense or genius, sent a video of his theory to the renowned Institute for Advanced Study near Princeton University.
Gifted: Aspergers syndrome and the conditions affecting child development
Autism: A condition that starts in early childhood, usually involving serious developmental disabilities with social interaction and communication.
People with this disorder can have a range of abilities, from being severely disabled to gifted. It is estimated one in every 150 child has the condition.

Aspergers: A syndrome that is similar to autism, but with the distinction that those with it typically function better, have normal intelligence and near-normal language development.

Savant: Rare condition in which persons with developmental disorders have astonishing islands of ability, brilliance or talent that stand in stark contrast to overall limitations.
According to the Indiana Star, Institute astrophysics professor Scott Tremaine -himself a world renowned expert - confirmed the authenticity of Jake's theory.
In an email to the family, Tremaine wrote: 'I'm impressed by his interest in physics and the amount that he has learned so far.
'The theory that he's working on involves several of the toughest problems in astrophysics and theoretical physics.
'Anyone who solves these will be in line for a Nobel Prize.'
But for his mother Kristine Barnett, 36, and the rest of the family, maths remains a tricky subject.
Speaking to the paper, Mrs Barnett said: 'I flunked math. I know this did not come from me.'
And it hasn't gone un-noticed by Jake, who added: 'Whenever I try talking about math with anyone in my family they just stare blankly.'
Jake was diagnosed with Aspergers syndrome, a mild form of autism, from an early age.
His parents were worried when he didn't talk until the age of two, suspecting he was educationally abnormal.
It was only as he began to grow up that they realised just how special his gift was.
He would fill up note pads of paper with drawings of complex geometrical shapes and calculations, before picking up felt tip pens and writing equations on windows.
By the age of three he was solving 5,000-piece puzzles and he even studied a state road map, reciting every highway and license plate prefix from memory.
By the age of eight he had left high school and was attending Indiana University-Purdue University Indianapolis advanced astrophysics classes.

Genius: Jake Barnett is now set to become a paid astrophysics researcher
His classroom presence is quite unnerving for many of the 18-plus year old students at his IPIU lectures.
Speaking to the Indy Star, Wanda Anderson, a biochemistry major said: 'When I first walked in and saw him, I thought, 'Oh my God, I'm going to school with Doogie Howser.'
She added: 'A lot of people come to him for help when they don't understand a physics problem.
'People come up to him all the time and say, 'Hey Jake, can you help me'.
'A lot of people think a genius is hard to talk to, but Jake explains things that would still be over their head.'
And his Professor John Ross said his performance in lectures had been 'outstanding'.
'When he asks a question, he is always two steps ahead of the lecture.
'Everyone in the class gets quiet. Poor kid. . . . He sits right in the front row, and they all just look at him.
'He will come to see me during office hours and ask even more detailed questions. And you can tell he's been thinking these things through.
'Kids his age would normally have problems adding fractions, and he is helping out some of his fellow students.'
According to his parents Jake has trouble sleeping at night as he constantly sees numbers in his head.
But far from complaining, Jake has turned the sleepless nights to his advantage - debunking the big bang theory.
The next step, according to professor Ross, is for Jake to leave class altogether and take up a paid research role.

'trane 03-25-2011 12:04 AM

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During an outing to a local planetarium, Barnett answered the presenter's question on why the moons of Mars are odd-shaped. After some questions regarding the planet's gravity, Barnett correctly explained why they are the shape they are. He was three at the time.[1]
"We were in the crowd, just sitting, listening to this guy ask the crowd if anyone knew why the moons going around Mars were potato-shaped and not round," she recalls. "Jacob raised his hand and said, 'Excuse me, but what are the sizes of the moons around Mars?' "
The lecturer answered, and "Jacob looked at him and said the gravity of the planet . . . is so large that (the moon's) gravity would not be able to pull it into a round shape."
Silence.
"That entire building . . . everyone was just looking at him, like, 'Who is this 3-year-old?' "
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bladeofBG 03-25-2011 01:10 AM

What an amazing gift. The kid's potential is limitless.

But I'm very happy that he is so well-adjusted, to go w/his gift that he's honing.

finstock 03-25-2011 01:23 AM


thought 03-25-2011 09:09 AM

difficult to comprehend

Psi 03-25-2011 09:50 AM

I remember a fair bit of that calc, but damn, at 12?

That kid won the smarts lottery lol.

Stonezz 03-25-2011 09:51 AM

damn that's amazing, special kid right there

'trane 03-25-2011 09:56 AM

in the 60's and 70's, and possibly even the 80's, there's a good chance this kid would have been institutionalized at age 2 because he couldn't speak yet. our society has come a long way in recognizing the different ways that human minds can develop.

Shadowfax 03-25-2011 10:16 AM

wow !
the next Stephen Hawking ?

jeffb 03-25-2011 01:19 PM

Wonder how often this kids been beat up?

'trane 03-25-2011 01:21 PM

im guessing never. when you go to university at age 12 you kinda skip the meatheads in highschool that think about these kinds of things jeff.

jeffb 03-25-2011 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 'trane (Post 523321)
im guessing never. when you go to university at age 12 you kinda skip the meatheads in highschool that think about these kinds of things jeff.

True enough. Just saying, other kids can be awful to kids like this.

Shadowfax 03-25-2011 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 'trane (Post 523269)
in the 60's and 70's, and possibly even the 80's, there's a good chance this kid would have been institutionalized at age 2 because he couldn't speak yet. our society has come a long way in recognizing the different ways that human minds can develop.

kids like this kind of freak me out (in a good way)...whether it's math, art, music etc etc
it's almost like the hand of God reached out and touched them on the forehead at birth

Barracuda 03-25-2011 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Mxyzptlk (Post 523329)
kids like this kind of freak me out (in a good way)...whether it's math, art, music etc etc
it's almost like the hand of God reached out and touched them on the forehead at birth

Totally. Or Lord Voldemort tried to kill them, but failed, and instead gave them part of his powers along with a thunderbolt scar on their forehead.

It's JUST like that.

:)

'trane 03-25-2011 01:44 PM

i can't say i agree with the hand of god comment...

what this makes me think about is the potential of the human brain and its development. our education system is based on developmental milestones that can clearly be eclipsed by massive margins depending on the circumstances. some kids do things well early, and some late. some pick up certain subjects easily and others with more effort. and this doesn't seem to have a simple genetic link in that you are good at what your parents pass down to you.

how is it that some kids can tap this potential and otehrs cannot? is it simply an issue of brain chemistry? is it 'harnessable' in people who don't have (dis)abilities? is the idea of certain grades at certain ages a total waste of time? should all kids just learn at a pace the is suitable to their level of comprehension?

and on a personal level, am i giving my kid all the right opportunities? if she started out with books of geometrical patterns or colour wheels or had access to music in a way that i haven't thought of, could she be tapping in to parts of her brain that are currently unused? this is not to say that i have anxiety about it, but i find it incredibly interesting to think about the ways this can develop. in thecase of jacob barnett, if he didn't get a book about star and the solar system as a 2 year old, would his brain have developed this way?

fancylad 03-25-2011 01:54 PM

very interesting observations trane. Being a dad i have often thought about whether or not i am doing a good job in 'teaching' my kid.

Anyways, enough talk i'm off to chapters to check out their astronomy sections. peace!

thought 03-25-2011 02:07 PM

i dunno. i knew a guy back in the day. his parents were first generation chinese, and his dad was hardcore. in grade 5 is dad taught him calculus and advanced physics, and from then on his dad made him do questions of each for an hour a day until he was done high school. anyways he did really well in school, not of a child prodigy but still a pretty smart kid. i dunno, wasn't too much smarter than me given that i went home every night and played warcraft for hours.

anyways his goal all the way through high school was to get into Harvard, and if that didn't happen then plan B was the health science program at Mac. He didn't get into either. I just remember seeing him walking home that day, not even crying, but just looking lost, like his life depended on it.

I guess my point is that I don't think genius like this can be forced, nor should it.

fancylad 03-25-2011 02:22 PM

ya i agree with you thought. That kind of hardcore, slave to school parenting isn't cool. and I was joking about going to chapters. As you can see i am still here. :cookie:

still trane brings up some great points. I can't help but think about them from time to time myself.


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