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Old 06-26-2012, 10:27 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Have you guys ever lost close playoff games? My teammate had 5 sec and I guess the pressure caused him to get tunnel vision. He couldn't see the open man beside him so he took a fadeaway over 2 guys. I swear that was going in but it hit back rim and out.

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Old 06-26-2012, 11:30 AM   #22 (permalink)
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I'm left handed but my right hand is very weak. I'm pretty good at finishing with my right, but I struggle to dribble or drive right. It's actually ridiculous how much better my left hand is than my right. I think the worst thing is that I can't seem to get my footing down when I drive right.
All you need to do is start shooting floaters(1 handed shots) with your right in practice from everywhere on the court. Like the vid posted earlier with Curry, do the around the world, but only shoot with your right.

Back in high school I didnt have a left hand, so during co op when I was an assistant gym teacher I would get to the school during their lunch break and only practice left handed shots doing the around the world drill. I can now shoot 3s and floaters with my left, and I'm now better finishing with my left than I am my right in game. Once you get the touch figured out from the perimeter with your off hand, it's incredibly easy to finish with that hand with layups.

In terms of your footwork, if you're finishing with your right foot when doing a right handed layup, its not really a bad thing, as when you're driving to the right side of the basket, your left foot would be your inside foot, which means in shooting off it you'd be closer to the defender. If you shoot off your right foot you're further away from your defender giving you more space to get off the shot.

On the flip side, I often use my left foot to finish with my left hand, and its a nearly unblockable shot even vs long defenders because they cant reach over me due to me being able to use english from even a far away angle to the glass to spin it in. I have to use angles and flip shots/floaters since I'm a smaller guard. Not enough guys I play with do this, they just recklessly go to the rim and shoot it like they're shooting a normal layup when they're going against longer more athletic guys and get the shot back right in their face/
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Old 06-26-2012, 11:36 AM   #23 (permalink)
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left foot - right hand
right foot - left hand.

there are no other rules. Learn and master those simple movements first.
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Old 06-26-2012, 11:52 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Of course, I'm just saying in going against tougher defenders off the dribble, you get more space and are more unpredictable when you can hit off of the opposite leg, and in my experience, it's more effective vs longer players, especially since they're not used to it.
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Old 06-26-2012, 02:38 PM   #25 (permalink)
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LOL SJ, I know you're supposed to jump off your left leg for right-handed lay ups and off your right left for left-handed lay ups. That's the standard rule.

However, it can be very advantageous at time to jump off the wrong foot to give you that extra space that thriller mentioned. It's harder, because you have less balance (and it can look awkward), but it can be very effective.

Thriller, thanks for the tips regarding the off-hand shooting. As I mentioned earlier, I'm pretty good at finishing with my right hand (off-hand). That's not the problem. I can even shoot with my right. I once won a game of 21 against two of my friends when I used my right hand to shoot and they used their dominant hands. They're not the best players but still.

When I said I couldn't get my footing right I didn't mean which foot to jump off of. I mean my footing when I drive. It looks very awkward when I drive right. Or it feels awkward at least. I guess I need better control of the ball. For some reason, I can't seem to mirror my left-drives. That's the problem. Getting to the rim driving right is the problem. Finishing is not.
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Old 06-26-2012, 04:27 PM   #26 (permalink)
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When I started playing ball at around like 12 years old, I was so trash offensively.

So all I would do is block people. Double jumps. Triple jumps. My instinct and timing just got to the point where I could block people stronger, taller, faster and much better than me.

The only thing I would play for like 4 years is defense. All day I would just board, block, steal and defend.

Eventually I learned how to drive and finish and shoot. Nowadays, I have a bank shot that I shoot probably 75% in game. I can shoot it from any angle from any distance. It really is the easiest shot in basketball...
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Old 06-26-2012, 07:02 PM   #27 (permalink)
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My shot sucks. I can post up virtually anybody though and I can finish with my left or right from the post. A lot of the asian kids here in Vancouver are too fast for me and they have such a low center of gravity so I can't really drive past them.
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Old 06-26-2012, 10:38 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Just knocked down another game winner today.

Btw, my shots were falling today. Good sign!
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Old 06-26-2012, 10:43 PM   #29 (permalink)
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When I said I couldn't get my footing right I didn't mean which foot to jump off of. I mean my footing when I drive. It looks very awkward when I drive right. Or it feels awkward at least. I guess I need better control of the ball. For some reason, I can't seem to mirror my left-drives. That's the problem. Getting to the rim driving right is the problem. Finishing is not.
I had the same problem with going to my left, and then I went the wrong foot route, where I did the same footwork to my left to the rim as I did to my right and it worked just as well. It took a while to get the balance right, but now that I have, it's an unstoppable shot if I can get all the way to the glass because I can make the shot using crazy english from any angle.

But if you want your right to be fluid but also have the correct footwork, you should slow down your steps when you practice and start dribbling the ball, and then figure out how many steps its going to take you to get to the rim in the different scenarios going right, and then gradually speed it up until you're comfortable doing it full speed in game. In saying this, you're going to have to take a shitload of time doing this and training your mind/feet to do it, but if you have the time and want to put the effort in it'll be worth it to make yourself that much better.

And speaking of streetball, when the hell are we going to do an RF outing at hoopdome already? I'm going to be in an out of Toronto all summer. It's about time.
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I had the same problem with going to my left, and then I went the wrong foot route, where I did the same footwork to my left to the rim as I did to my right and it worked just as well. It took a while to get the balance right, but now that I have, it's an unstoppable shot if I can get all the way to the glass because I can make the shot using crazy english from any angle.

But if you want your right to be fluid but also have the correct footwork, you should slow down your steps when you practice and start dribbling the ball, and then figure out how many steps its going to take you to get to the rim in the different scenarios going right, and then gradually speed it up until you're comfortable doing it full speed in game. In saying this, you're going to have to take a shitload of time doing this and training your mind/feet to do it, but if you have the time and want to put the effort in it'll be worth it to make yourself that much better.

And speaking of streetball, when the hell are we going to do an RF outing at hoopdome already? I'm going to be in an out of Toronto all summer. It's about time.
Thanks for the tips bro. I'll definitely look to practice my right hand dribbles/drives.

I like the idea of jumping off the wrong foot. I can only do it when I drive left though lol. I don't do it as often as I should. Mostly because I'm so used to jumping off the right foot. It's a nice shot because people aren't expecting it, so I'll look to do it more often.
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Hey Thriller, do you jump off the wrong foot more often that not?
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Old 06-27-2012, 12:47 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Yeah, when I go hard to the rim full speed with someone on me I almost always jump off the wrong foot. It's one of those things that I cant change because it's like hardcoded in to my game/head. It's extremely hard to change the footing once you've been doing it for years, and really, I dont think I'd want to because like I said, it gives me more space.

But on breakaways and easier type finishes, I go off my right foot because it's slower movement and easier to get the footing right.
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Old 06-27-2012, 03:44 PM   #33 (permalink)
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My new thing, which I learned from watching and playing with a former euro-pro and have only introduced recently in to my pick-up is over exaggerating pass fakes. Not to make them more effective, but to communicate to teammates where they should be cutting.

People are so sensitive, you can't tell them to cut without them thinking that you think you know more then them - and when your teammates get their back up everything breaks down.

So now I catch the ball in the high-post, boom, exaggerated bounce pass fake, pivot, exaggerated overhead pass fake.

And it's amazing how I need to do this for some players who have high skill levels, but then it isn't necessary for some players who picked up basketball later in life. I've played with numerous CIS players etc who without X's and O's on a board in front of them they have no idea how to move and improvise in cohesion with teammates so they pass-watch.

I love playing with guys who didn't play a lick of basketball growing up but for whatever reason got into basketball as adults. They have few bad habits, and they think they know nothing so they listen to advise.

For new players who want to stay in competitive runs - these are key in order of importance

1.) Play hard defense
2.) Listen to good advise
3.) Shoot with confidence
4.) Make easy passes
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RF Hoopdome outing should be done soontimes.

Let's pick a saturday and make it happen...
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Old 06-27-2012, 06:08 PM   #35 (permalink)
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RF Hoopdome outing should be done soontimes.

Let's pick a saturday and make it happen...
Wait until I can drive, boys! Only a few more months.
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