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Old 01-16-2015, 05:12 PM   #12141 (permalink)
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has anyone ever had one of those electronic cigarette things with no nicotine? whats the point of it.
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Old 01-16-2015, 05:14 PM   #12142 (permalink)
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has anyone ever had one of those electronic cigarette things with no nicotine? whats the point of it.
To not smoke nicotine?
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Old 01-16-2015, 05:19 PM   #12143 (permalink)
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To not smoke nicotine?
thanks jeff that really helped.

honestly though, do people just want to breath smoke in and out to look cool or what? smoking becomes something that people do just because their with friends, something to do, then it becomes a habit for stress relief.
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Old 01-16-2015, 05:53 PM   #12144 (permalink)
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thanks jeff that really helped.

honestly though, do people just want to breath smoke in and out to look cool or what? smoking becomes something that people do just because their with friends, something to do, then it becomes a habit for stress relief.
That's a reason among teens. Peer pressure also plays a role there. After a while it becomes habit. And that hahabit a lot of times becomes a stress reliever for things other than simply getting some nicotine in you when you need it. That's why it's so difficult to quit. The nicotine addiction is no longer there after a week or so. Sometimes less. It's the habitual addiction and what most people end up seeing cigarettes for that makes it so tough. So having an e cigarette can help cover that habitual addaddIction without causing actual physical harm.
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Old 01-16-2015, 06:05 PM   #12145 (permalink)
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has anyone ever had one of those electronic cigarette things with no nicotine? whats the point of it.
Oral fixation...

Smoking is a habit, so the principle is if you are frequently putting a cigarette in your mouth you can subvert that action and habit by removing the negative effects of the cigarette. Replacing the cigarette with an inert e-cigarette while keeping the subconscious habit of putting cigarette to mouth thus satisfying that basic need.

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Old 01-16-2015, 07:40 PM   #12146 (permalink)
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For some it might be a habit, for most it's an addiction.
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Old 01-16-2015, 09:48 PM   #12147 (permalink)
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I didn't smoke for more than a year and recently I had one while drunk, and that's all it took am back at it full force. It's definitely more than a habit, cigarettes are very addictive. And e-cigs are not getting the job done for me.
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Old 01-16-2015, 10:29 PM   #12148 (permalink)
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I quit smoking cold turkey a long time ago...right after i watched my step father and grandmother die from lung cancer...both were slow/terrible deaths

Do yourselves a favor...throw them in the garbage and walk away....now
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There is a genetic factor that makes it extremely difficult to quit, particularly cold turkey, for a percentage of the population. if cold turkey doesn't work, it's not a bad idea to ask your doctor for aids such as the patch.
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Old 01-16-2015, 11:58 PM   #12150 (permalink)
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For some it might be a habit, for most it's an addiction.
Of course it's an addiction, everyone knows that... My point was more to denote that smoking is also a habit in the way that it's a cyclical habit whereas most people smoke at prescribed times say when they wake up or after a meal or during a work break. My example of habitual smoking was with the oral fixation part of smoking...bringing the cigarette up to the mouth is a ritual or habit just like my example of cyclical or timed smoking. When I speak of habit I also mean that because it's a habitual exercise it becomes almost subconscious in nature, an almost obsessive compulsive disorder. Just a weird observation I guess.

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Old 01-17-2015, 12:01 AM   #12151 (permalink)
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There is a genetic factor that makes it extremely difficult to quit, particularly cold turkey, for a percentage of the population. if cold turkey doesn't work, it's not a bad idea to ask your doctor for aids such as the patch.
The genetic factor would be an interesting topic. What predisposes someone to become readily addicted to a substance over someone that isn't easily addicted? Is it genetic or perhaps brain chemistry?
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The genetic factor would be an interesting topic. What predisposes someone to become readily addicted to a substance over someone that isn't easily addicted? Is it genetic or brain chemistry?
It has to do with synapses and neural transmitters. For some people the body gets signals for the need to take in nicotine that are far more severe than for others. I think everyone gets addicted and has to deal with some level of withdrawal. It's just that many can clean their systems out by going cold turkey, and even sneak a puff now and then with no rebound effect, while others go straight back to full-on dependence very easily. If i am remembering correctly, it has to do with a particular type of receptor in the synapses that some have and others don't.
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It has to do with synapses and neural transmitters. For some people the body gets signals for the need to take in nicotine that are far more severe than for others. I think everyone gets addicted and has to deal with some level of withdrawal. It's just that many can clean their systems out by going cold turkey, and even sneak a puff now and then with no rebound effect, while others go straight back to full-on dependence very easily. If i am remembering correctly, it has to do with a particular type of receptor in the synapses that some have and others don't.
Dopamine receptors, everyone has dopamine receptors but read the section on allelic variation there's our answer to genetic predisposition.

Nicotine Effects on Dopamine Receptors | eHow

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Old 01-17-2015, 01:56 PM   #12154 (permalink)
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I quit smoking cold turkey a long time ago...right after i watched my step father and grandmother die from lung cancer...both were slow/terrible deaths

Do yourselves a favor...throw them in the garbage and walk away....now
I can and did go cold turkey for extended period, my problem is that when I'm drinking or after sex I want a smoke. Most of the time (when I quit) I have the will power to say no, however if I slip my cravings comeback full force. Having said that there's no excuse I need to take control of my actions and defeat this damn addiction.
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I can and did go cold turkey for extended period, my problem is that when I'm drinking or after sex I want a smoke. Most of the time (when I quit) I have the will power to say no, however if I slip my cravings comeback full force. Having said that there's no excuse I need to take control of my actions and defeat this damn addiction.
that feeling you get after lighting up a cigarette after a nice evening, feeling like a king, its nice. I would prefer a cigar though. Everything in moderation is fine, to much of anything is bad for you

I had a friend that had medical problems because he drank to much water, can you believe that?
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I would prefer a cigar though.
I had a friend that had medical problems because he drank to much water, can you believe that?
an unlit cigar is a good way to fight it...carry it with you and pop it in your mouth when u get a craving

the water thing is pretty weird...never heard of anything like that before
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after sex I want a smoke.
just have more sex instead
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Old 01-17-2015, 06:37 PM   #12158 (permalink)
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I can and did go cold turkey for extended period, my problem is that when I'm drinking or after sex I want a smoke. Most of the time (when I quit) I have the will power to say no, however if I slip my cravings comeback full force. Having said that there's no excuse I need to take control of my actions and defeat this damn addiction.
Never smoked a cigarette in my life, so I have never understood the whole smoking after sex or after eating thing whatsoever...makes no sense at all to me. Every time I go out to dinner with anyone that smokes and as soon as they're done eating the first thing they want to do is go outside and inhale that shit....why is that? lol

Like I said I have never smoked before (other then some weed) so the smokers mentality has always baffled me. My mother is a smoker and I keep trying to get her to quit, she just turned sixty. It's funny, she quit for 11yrs and went back to it about 12yrs ago which I never understood. But she's known people that have died from lung cancer who didn't smoke and she always likes to point out that they didn't smoke. Weird
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But she's known people that have died from lung cancer who didn't smoke and she always likes to point out that they didn't smoke. Weird
my grandmother never smoked a day in her life but my grandfather (who died from a severe stroke) was a heavy smoker...she got lung cancer from second hand smoke
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my grandmother never smoked a day in her life but my grandfather (who died from a severe stroke) was a heavy smoker...she got lung cancer from second hand smoke
Oh, I know I keep bringing that up.
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