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Old 03-04-2010, 12:43 PM   #901 (permalink)
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to me he seems all about his image and nothing else really.

Remember when he came out with that uber lame 'cyberpunk' thing in the early 90s?
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Old 03-04-2010, 12:46 PM   #902 (permalink)
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His music is solid and lots of artists have done silly things to revive their careers after they are no longer relevant - especially in the early 90's when "alternative" music took over the mainstream. And all popular music is about image in one way or another.
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Old 03-04-2010, 02:28 PM   #903 (permalink)
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I loved Dancing With Myself.

Punk was mostly all about image anyway. It didn't go for the usually phony back-to-the-audience-it's-all-about-the-music hippy stance. He made the whole image thing work within the mainstream. It was a pretty big shift. I remember getting attacked by a carload of guys when I dared to spray pink coloring in my hair and wear 3-D glasses just for the fun of it, back in my HS days in Calgary. I was like some kind of anti-rock vermin to them.
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Old 03-05-2010, 12:23 PM   #904 (permalink)
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Musicians that use the auto tuning shit for their voice is lame, shows no type of originality.

Auto tuning should be banned from the music industry just as steriods from sports, its terrible.

Have you listened to "we are the world" for haiti? these douche bag rappers come in with their inflated egos and sing along thinking they're hot shit because they have a computer singing for them.
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Old 03-06-2010, 11:08 PM   #905 (permalink)
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A dogshow? Really TSN? Thats all you got? Fuck, I'd change the channel, but I lost the remote and I'm too lazy to get up and change the channel.

Oh, and have these dogs aren't even real dogs....
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Old 03-08-2010, 07:58 PM   #906 (permalink)
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I'm sad. Really sad. So sad that not even a Raps win could make me smile. Why am I so sad? Well....

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OPP officer dies after shootout

An Ontario Provincial Police officer has died after a Monday morning shootout with an elderly man near Seaforth, Ont., north of London.

Const. Vu Pham, 37, a father of three, died of his injuries in hospital, police said in a news release Monday afternoon. There were unconfirmed reports that he suffered a head injury.

"I am deeply saddened by the loss of this young brave officer, who was committed to protecting the citizens of Ontario," OPP Commissioner Julian Fantino said.

Pham's wife, Heather, and three sons were with him when he died, Fantino said at a news conference. Fantino hailed Pham as "one of our heroes."

Born in Vietnam, Pham was a 15-year member of the OPP, working out of the Bruce County detachment. He had also served in the Cochrane and West Parry Sound detachments.

Police were called at 10:18 a.m. ET to the North Line in Huron County, Fantino said. The officer attempted to stop a vehicle, and in doing so was confronted by an armed man.

OPP officers located a suspect shortly after Pham was shot.
CBC News - Canada - OPP officer dies after shootout

I knew Officer Pham and his family personally, and I just recently saw him. I can't believe hes gone. Trust me when I say that he was a valued member of our community and now basically the whole town has shut down. I know how his boys feel. I have gone through a similar experience, and its not fun. R.I.P Vu. You will be missed.
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Old 03-08-2010, 08:07 PM   #907 (permalink)
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RIP..
i feel for you DK, my best friends are police officers and i feel your pain bro.
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Old 03-09-2010, 08:20 PM   #908 (permalink)
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Musicians that use the auto tuning shit for their voice is lame, shows no type of originality.

Auto tuning should be banned from the music industry just as steriods from sports, its terrible.

Have you listened to "we are the world" for haiti? these douche bag rappers come in with their inflated egos and sing along thinking they're hot shit because they have a computer singing for them.
Couldn't agree more. Autotune is the death of music. In the past four or five years I have maybe heard 5 new songs that I actually like. Music is all about who is the most marketable and can make the most money. Its at an all time low in my opinion. I know everyones musical taste differs and some people may like this auto tune shit but the stuff I grew up with in the nineties is ten times better in my opinion (and people thought the nineties sucked for music). And you see homos like Drake and Lil Wayne being advertised as the next big things when they arent using their actual voices, its a complete joke. Even people that were good the way they were started using autotune because its the latest trend like Kanye. This auto tune is being incorporated into rock music now. You see shit bands like Stereos, Hedley, and Faber Drive (all Canadian bands too) all using auto tune makes me want to punch them all in the face. And dont get me started on Nickelback. Nickelback dont use autotune but they are a joke to Canadian music.

I feel sorry for the young people who have to grow up listening to this crap.

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Old 03-10-2010, 10:46 AM   #909 (permalink)
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there is lots of good music out there in all genres, you just have work a little to find it.

Then again, that's always been the case, hasn't it?
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Old 03-10-2010, 11:10 AM   #910 (permalink)
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I don't have a problem with the use of autotune as an effect. It's kinda like using effects pedals with a guitar, but in their case, their voice is the guitar.

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but the stuff I grew up with in the nineties is ten times better in my opinion (and people thought the nineties sucked for music).
People get a little precious with the music they grew up with. People who grew up in the 60's, 70's and 80's were the people who thought the 90's sucked. People who grew up in the 90's, well, became you. The kids don't care though. They like what they like, and some of it, they'll always like, because it means something to them. Soundtrack of their lives - or whatever that cliche is.
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Old 03-10-2010, 11:28 AM   #911 (permalink)
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The Tragedy of Losing your Mind

Nowadays, we here much about being "non-judgmental". They say: sanity is subjective, no one is really wrong....mental illness is just a social construct, and if you have schizophrenia, how do you know the schizophrenic isn't actually sane and you're insane? It's all good, there is no bad.

Well, I think this is rubbish. I think we generally need to judge a tragedy as a tragedy. By not fathoming the profound debilitation, suffering and disorder of a serious mental illness, people tend to ignore the cause and effect process that can ruin a persons mind (e.g., drug use), and thus take less care of their own lives, seeing no evil where evil should be seen.

(this thought was inspired when I was listening to a couple idiot friends mouth off about how schizophrenia is "just another reality" and should be looked at as an equally valid way to look at the world. Note: it was 1:00pm and they were high on drugs, as usual)
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Old 03-10-2010, 02:18 PM   #912 (permalink)
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I don't have a problem with the use of autotune as an effect. It's kinda like using effects pedals with a guitar, but in their case, their voice is the guitar.





People get a little precious with the music they grew up with. People who grew up in the 60's, 70's and 80's were the people who thought the 90's sucked. People who grew up in the 90's, well, became you. The kids don't care though. They like what they like, and some of it, they'll always like, because it means something to them. Soundtrack of their lives - or whatever that cliche is.
Yeah I know what you mean. Music is great though because it varies from every single person. I don't blame people for listening to auto tune but it is my opinion that it just sounds stupid. But ya ive danced at parties and clubs to those kinds of songs and what not but its hard to sit down and really appreciate it. It just seems sloppy.

Good point though. I always grew up liking Green Day, Weezer, and Blink 182 in the 90's. People probably hated those bands back then lol. I still like them but I remember my parents couldn't stand them. My taste in music has developed a lot now. The Beatles and Pink Floyd are two of my favorite bands now and theyre old lol.
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Old 03-10-2010, 02:21 PM   #913 (permalink)
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Green Day sucks now, I remember when they were good when I was in elementary school in the mid 90's
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Old 03-10-2010, 04:51 PM   #914 (permalink)
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The Tragedy of Losing your Mind

Nowadays, we here much about being "non-judgmental". They say: sanity is subjective, no one is really wrong....mental illness is just a social construct, and if you have schizophrenia, how do you know the schizophrenic isn't actually sane and you're insane? It's all good, there is no bad.

Well, I think this is rubbish. I think we generally need to judge a tragedy as a tragedy. By not fathoming the profound debilitation, suffering and disorder of a serious mental illness, people tend to ignore the cause and effect process that can ruin a persons mind (e.g., drug use), and thus take less care of their own lives, seeing no evil where evil should be seen.
Interesting thought.

Although it's a little more obscure and unrealistic, one of my favourite high thoughts has the same sort of concept: what if the government pumps oxygen into the atmosphere so that we'll conform, and smoking marijuana is actually our normal state of mind?

It's false more likely than not, but it's definitely something to think about.
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Old 03-10-2010, 04:57 PM   #915 (permalink)
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Interesting thought.

Although it's a little more obscure and unrealistic, one of my favourite high thoughts has the same sort of concept: what if the government pumps oxygen into the atmosphere so that we'll conform, and smoking marijuana is actually our normal state of mind?

It's false more likely than not, but it's definitely something to think about.
The last time I smoked pot, I turned into a paranoid lunatic with a racing heart. After my friend left, I thought I'd just imagined he left so I hid out in the bedroom for an hour in my underwear, periodically peering around the corner to see if he was there.

If that's my normal state of mind, give me the government stuff.
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Old 03-10-2010, 05:00 PM   #916 (permalink)
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hahaha

Come on, nothing wrong with living your life on the edge.
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Old 03-10-2010, 05:06 PM   #917 (permalink)
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Old 03-10-2010, 07:35 PM   #918 (permalink)
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Interesting thought.

Although it's a little more obscure and unrealistic, one of my favourite high thoughts has the same sort of concept: what if the government pumps oxygen into the atmosphere so that we'll conform, and smoking marijuana is actually our normal state of mind? It's false more likely than not, but it's definitely something to think about.
Being high on weed is not so bad, but sometimes people react to weed or other rec. drugs in a very bad way, they experience psychosis, and it's a really, really hellish experience. Talk to anyone who has had schizophrenia, and there is nothing fun about it.

So I get pissed off when I hear people who've never experienced any serious brain disease talk about how schizophrenia is just a cool trip and no problem, when in fact it actually ruins lives.

I should add that, not only do I think recreational drug use can often lead to psychosis, I should have also said that recovering from schizophrenia can only happen when you admit you have an illness that needs to be treated. Recovering from any mental illness means you have to stop treating your body like shit, stop the drugs use, get on a good diet, get good sleep, and be more judgmental. This new meme in culture where we have to stop being judgmental is crap, we have to make careful moral judgments all the time, the universe does not care about you. Your own hard work and judgments are what lead to good things.

I've got some friends right now who think they can just sit around and get high all day, tap into cosmic love and the mystical God-head, wishfully visualize positive outcomes, and think that everything will turn out for them just fine.

Every 6months they seem to get more and more stressed, because their problems are piling up.
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Old 03-10-2010, 07:42 PM   #919 (permalink)
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The last time I smoked pot, I turned into a paranoid lunatic with a racing heart. After my friend left, I thought I'd just imagined he left so I hid out in the bedroom for an hour in my underwear, periodically peering around the corner to see if he was there.
There was a CBC program a few weeks ago about how the latest science suggests weed, ecstasy and other drugs can trigger permanent brain diseases (paranoid schizophrenia, bipolar disorder being the most prominent).

There was one point about how these new strains of marijuana we have now are so potent that they shouldn't even be considered the same drug as the marijuana from the 70's. I took just three good tokes from a joint there other day, and I was high off my ass. I couldn't imagine taking any more than that.

Now, the same studies also suggest that some people aren't going to experience any adverse effects from weed, so some people can smoke pretty much as much as they feel like without much trouble. But if you've experienced paranoia from weed, you should probably stay away from any rec. drugs, as you could very well be at risk for permanently damaging yourself.
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There was a CBC program a few weeks ago about how the latest science suggests weed, ecstasy and other drugs can trigger permanent brain diseases (paranoid schizophrenia, bipolar disorder being the most prominent).

There was one point about how these new strains of marijuana we have now are so potent that they shouldn't even be considered the same drug as the marijuana from the 70's. I took just three good tokes from a joint there other day, and I was high off my ass. I couldn't imagine taking any more than that.

Now, the same studies also suggest that some people aren't going to experience any adverse effects from weed, so some people can smoke pretty much as much as they feel like without much trouble. But if you've experienced paranoia from weed, you should probably stay away from any rec. drugs, as you could very well be at risk for permanently damaging yourself.
I had my first serious adverse reaction to it the second time I tried it when I was 16, in the early 90's. I'd smoked off and on for the next 3 years and most of the time I was fine, but the last time, I wasn't, so I stopped. That was 15 years ago. I'd developed an anxiety disorder around that time. Who knows if it was from pot, but I wouldn't be surprised if that had some sort of affect. Skip ahead to 3 years ago and I thought I'd give it another go, which was a bad move. I was hoping it'd be like the times when it was great (which, I should mention, out numbered the times it was scary) but it was awful and that's about it for me and weed. I guess I just needed to remind myself so I never touch it again.

I agree it's more potent now and was more potent in the early 90's. The guy we got it off 3 years ago was a dude we knew at a bar and he was always yammering on about how 'great' his 'shit' was. It was far from great for me, but I know what he meant. He took great pride in its potency.

I have and always have had a huge problem when people say that marijuana is harmless. It isn't for some and can be for others, just like you said. There's also a lot of "Well, alcohol's worse!" coming from that camp, which is a ridiculous comparison. They're completely different things and it's the unpredictability of pot that can cause trouble for some.
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