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my 11 year old nephew, just informed me that "rock band" came out with a new version. Where they made up this band called the "Beatles" and you play some songs from tv shows and commercials.

He has now been educated.
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Old 11-19-2009, 10:33 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Hopefully you informed him that they suck, and their music is now owned by the Jackson family.
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HA!

When I have kids, they'll learn Music 101 while in the womb, and then re-taught when they're out.

If they can't grasp the subject, I'm throwin em back in.
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Hopefully you informed him that they suck, and their music is now owned by the Jackson family.
which in turn is owned by lawyers and agents
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Honestly, who cares? (Not that I don't find the anecdote amusing, I'm glad you posted THAT...I just mean that 11 year olds don't know the beatles)

Just times changing man! Get used to it!
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Honestly, who cares? (Not that I don't find the anecdote amusing, I'm glad you posted THAT...I just mean that 11 year olds don't know the beatles)

Just times changing man! Get used to it!
Its more a statement on how a video game is introducing great music to a new generation, that they may have missed had it not been for video games.
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Its more a statement on how a video game is introducing great music to a new generation, that they may have missed had it not been for video games.
Good point. Chalk one more on the win column for video games
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Is that a new boy band?
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i have a sweet little music box that plays 'here there and everywhere' while my kid is being changed.

people can point to the idea that "the times are-a-changin and who cares about the beatles" all they want, but at the end of the day, anyone who has interest in music should at least pay some attention to what this band was able to accomplish. it's not only the staggering breadth of song writing in such a short period, it's the incredible ability to find universal themes and significant depth in pop music, something that just isn't being done anymore. these guys were true songwriters, and even if today's kids and today's stars don't listen to the beatles, you can bet that all the dudes that write the songs for todays kids and todays stars do.
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i have a sweet little music box that plays 'here there and everywhere' while my kid is being changed.

people can point to the idea that "the times are-a-changin and who cares about the beatles" all they want, but at the end of the day, anyone who has interest in music should at least pay some attention to what this band was able to accomplish. it's not only the staggering breadth of song writing in such a short period, it's the incredible ability to find universal themes and significant depth in pop music, something that just isn't being done anymore. these guys were true songwriters, and even if today's kids and today's stars don't listen to the beatles, you can bet that all the dudes that write the songs for todays kids and todays stars do.
It's not a knock on their accomplishments or their talent but let's be honest... Look at classical literature and classical music?

How many people can identify works by Sappho or Ovid? How many can recognize music by Mozart and Beethoven? VERY FEW!

Would you give a shit if someone could? Probably not! You only care because it's something you hold in high regard. Things you consider to be important and a life-changing experience will be replaced. Sorry!
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It's not a knock on their accomplishments or their talent but let's be honest... Look at classical literature and classical music?

How many people can identify works by Sappho or Ovid? How many can recognize music by Mozart and Beethoven? VERY FEW!

Would you give a shit if someone could? Probably not! You only care because it's something you hold in high regard. Things you consider to be important and a life-changing experience will be replaced. Sorry!
They will never replace the Original pez.
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They will never replace the Original pez.
Was Pez REALLY the original sugar candy?
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Was Pez REALLY the original sugar candy?
No....but it was the original one that you could get out of wonder womans head.
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It's not a knock on their accomplishments or their talent but let's be honest... Look at classical literature and classical music?

How many people can identify works by Sappho or Ovid? How many can recognize music by Mozart and Beethoven? VERY FEW!

Would you give a shit if someone could? Probably not! You only care because it's something you hold in high regard. Things you consider to be important and a life-changing experience will be replaced. Sorry!
i am actually not a huge beatles fan. outside of a few albums i don't listen to them too much.

and i'll bet you almost anyone born into 'western' culture could hum brahms lullabye or beethoven's 5th.

but the point isn't that sacred music needs to be consecrated, it's that people with an inquisitive mind, and especially those that are trying to create themselves, should pay attention to great works of the past. picasso made lots of scribbles that were genius, but he first learned how to do landscapes and portraiture and to copy the classical masters. there is value in learning from previous great work. ignoring it because it's old is just foolish.

and i expect all things to be replaced. that's progress. but replacing something blindly without learning from what you are replacing is just a huge waste of past experience.
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I actually remember quite a few "Loony Tunes" cartoons introducing me to classical music when I was a kid.

On a related note, I remember back a few years ago I overheard a kid commenting on how "some old dude Sting" remade Diddy's song "Missing You" (referencing the classic "Every breath you take").

Hilarious.

All that being said though I think that some of today's youth are actually much MORE savvy than most of ever were at their age since they have access to ITunes and zillions of songs from any and every era.
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my 11 year old nephew, just informed me that "rock band" came out with a new version. Where they made up this band called the "Beatles" and you play some songs from tv shows and commercials.

He has now been educated.
Finally a generation that don't have to suck off senior citizens and can appreciate some newer and innovative artists.
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i am actually not a huge beatles fan. outside of a few albums i don't listen to them too much.

and i'll bet you almost anyone born into 'western' culture could hum brahms lullabye or beethoven's 5th.

but the point isn't that sacred music needs to be consecrated, it's that people with an inquisitive mind, and especially those that are trying to create themselves, should pay attention to great works of the past. picasso made lots of scribbles that were genius, but he first learned how to do landscapes and portraiture and to copy the classical masters. there is value in learning from previous great work. ignoring it because it's old is just foolish.

and i expect all things to be replaced. that's progress. but replacing something blindly without learning from what you are replacing is just a huge waste of past experience.
Past artists far too often are called genius, simply because they stumbled upon something first.
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Past artists far too often are called genius, simply because they stumbled upon something first.
So the same can be said for....Nobel, Newton, Einstein, Gallilao, Bell etc....


Smarten up
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i am actually not a huge beatles fan. outside of a few albums i don't listen to them too much.

and i'll bet you almost anyone born into 'western' culture could hum brahms lullabye or beethoven's 5th.

but the point isn't that sacred music needs to be consecrated, it's that people with an inquisitive mind, and especially those that are trying to create themselves, should pay attention to great works of the past. picasso made lots of scribbles that were genius, but he first learned how to do landscapes and portraiture and to copy the classical masters. there is value in learning from previous great work. ignoring it because it's old is just foolish.

and i expect all things to be replaced. that's progress. but replacing something blindly without learning from what you are replacing is just a huge waste of past experience.

I appreciate what you are saying and I think that you have a good point to a degree. The only resistence I put up to that is if we force all kids to listen to the same music/paintings/literature to gain their building blocks, it will funnel them in similar directions.

For true creativity to flourish it should not be hindered by outside influence telling them what art SHOULD be. If they hear the beatles in a commercial or in rock band and LOVE it, they will pursue it.

It's a very adult idea that you need to already have a background at something to be creative in it.
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stumbled upon, or invented?
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