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Old 08-22-2008, 01:53 PM   #121 (permalink)
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Soundgarden was already out and already had a grammy nomination in 1990.

How many of those Nirvana albums sold posthumously?

It doesn't matter. 50 million after 3 years of being a popular band vs. 20 million for Foo Fighters in what, 13 years?

The 2002 release sold millions worldwide (1 million in the States, Daves biggest record selling 2) and spawned a hit single. Nevermind has sold 27 million worldwide and I know for a fact that wasn't all in those 3 years.
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Old 08-22-2008, 01:55 PM   #122 (permalink)
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BTW, Snooch my point wasn't to make myself look good. It's a running joke where SJ says he knows about more basketball than anyone here because he played, so I was giving it back to him in the discussion becuase I play music.
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Old 08-22-2008, 01:55 PM   #123 (permalink)
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Soundgardens first album 1988

Sonic Youth's first 1983

Meatpuppets first album 1983

Nirvana's first album (bleach wasnt commercially successful until after Nevermind)1989

Nevermind 1991

Pearl Jam Ten-1991
You're missing my point. Nirvana was HUGE, worldwide. None of these bands were HUGE. Some may be better at playing the guitar, singing, lyrics but you can't discount the fact that Nirvana was a enormous thing.

Casual fans hadn't really heard about those bands until Nirvana. I know I hadn't.
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Old 08-22-2008, 01:56 PM   #124 (permalink)
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It doesn't matter. 50 million after 3 years of being a popular band vs. 20 million for Foo Fighters in what, 13 years?

The 2002 release sold millions worldwide (1 million in the States, Daves biggest record selling 2) and spawned a hit single. Nevermind has sold 27 million worldwide and I know for a fact that wasn't all in those 3 years.
Do you still wear flannel and Doc Martins?
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Old 08-22-2008, 01:57 PM   #125 (permalink)
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You're missing my point. Nirvana was HUGE, worldwide. None of these bands were HUGE. Some may be better at playing the guitar, singing, lyrics but you can't discount the fact that Nirvana was a enormous thing.

Casual fans hadn't really heard about those bands until Nirvana. I know I hadn't.
I knew soundgarden before Nirvana. Many other people most likely have as well seeing haw, as someone else pointed out, they were nominated for a grammy in 1990.

I think that MTV had a huge part in the success of Nirvana as compared to some of the others as well. Every hour on the hour een Spirit was playing were as Sonic Youth, Meat Puppets etc was relagated to 11:00 at night.

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Old 08-22-2008, 01:59 PM   #127 (permalink)
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It doesn't matter. 50 million after 3 years of being a popular band vs. 20 million for Foo Fighters in what, 13 years?

The 2002 release sold millions worldwide (1 million in the States, Daves biggest record selling 2) and spawned a hit single. Nevermind has sold 27 million worldwide and I know for a fact that wasn't all in those 3 years.
It does matter.

He's been dead for 14 years. Their popularity extends past those initial three years and in fact exploded tenfold after his death.

Do you honestly think they would've moved as many units had he not died?
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Old 08-22-2008, 02:02 PM   #128 (permalink)
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thats what grunge people wear didnt they?

I have been frecuently told that I dress like a grunge. Even though I dont wear neither of those.
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Old 08-22-2008, 02:05 PM   #129 (permalink)
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thats what grunge people wear didnt they?

I have been frecuently told that I dress like a grunge. Even though I dont wear neither of those.
Yeah, grunge was alot of Flannel and Docs, as well as band T's, Cardigans, Ripped jeans and Chuck Taylors.
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Old 08-22-2008, 02:09 PM   #130 (permalink)
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Yes? No? That's not the point. He/they blew onto the scene, ripped up the charts (knocked Skid Row and that whole genre into oblivion) and changed what sold - all with music that had never done such a thing. That's what we're talking about here. Those other bands, for whatever reason, didn't do it. In a perfect world, it might have been Soundgarden, but it wasn't. Fate, stars aligning, that chunk of teens relating, whatever.

Speaking of Soundgarden, the winner that year was Metallica for One and the other nominees were Dokken, Faith No More and Queensryche. So, the nomination doesn't prove anything within the context of this debate. The mainstream hadn't heard of Soundgarden. Their records never got past the 100's on the Billboard charts. But, after Nirvana broke...number 1.

Although overshadowed at the time of its release by the sudden popularity of Nirvana's Nevermind, the focus of attention brought by Nevermind to the Seattle scene helped Soundgarden gain wider attention.
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Old 08-22-2008, 02:12 PM   #131 (permalink)
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Yes? No? That's not the point. He/they blew onto the scene, ripped up the charts (knocked Skid Row and that whole genre into oblivion) and changed what sold - all with music that had never done such a thing. That's what we're talking about here. Those other bands, for whatever reason, didn't do it. In a perfect world, it might have been Soundgarden, but it wasn't. Fate, stars aligning, that chunk of teens relating, whatever.

Speaking of Soundgarden, the winner that year was Metallica for One and the other nominees were Dokken, Faith No More and Queensryche. So, the nomination doesn't prove anything within the context of this debate. The mainstream hadn't heard of Soundgarden. Their records never got past the 100's on the Billboard charts. But, after Nirvana broke...number 1.

Although overshadowed at the time of its release by the sudden popularity of Nirvana's Nevermind, the focus of attention brought by Nevermind to the Seattle scene helped Soundgarden gain wider attention.
I agree with you, but that still doesn't make Cobain better than Grohl.
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Old 08-22-2008, 02:13 PM   #132 (permalink)
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We'll decide this with a tennis match. I know what ghost will be helping me out on my side of the court.
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Yes? No? That's not the point. He/they blew onto the scene, ripped up the charts (knocked Skid Row and that whole genre into oblivion) and changed what sold - all with music that had never done such a thing. That's what we're talking about here. Those other bands, for whatever reason, didn't do it. In a perfect world, it might have been Soundgarden, but it wasn't. Fate, stars aligning, that chunk of teens relating, whatever.
So true. soundgarden and nirvana are both on my fav 10.

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Old 08-22-2008, 02:15 PM   #134 (permalink)
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We'll decide this with a tennis match. I know what ghost will be helping me out on my side of the court.
Lot of good a ghost will do when real live people will be on this side.
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So true. my soundgarden and nirvana are both on my fav 10.
Me too, especially Nirvana
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We'll decide this with a tennis match. I know what ghost will be helping me out on my side of the court.
You will be unable to stop my serve and volley game, but whatever...

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Snoochie in case you didnt notice, this two know each other.
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Snoochie in case you didnt notice, this two know each other.
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