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Sherlock is one of the best series out there. Every episode is like watching a movie. Hard to believe, but the 3rd season is even better IMO.
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yeah, the episodes are long, and there are only 3 per series, as you saw. but it makes for much more engaging stories. the writing and acting are superb, and the length of the shows gives them lots of room for depth.

if you are a fan of the franchise, such as it is, have you watched elementary (the american version)? a very different and much more vulnerable sherlock, and a completely different take on the watson, mycroft and moriarty characters. also really good, but a much more episodic-tv-based structure.
i've seen some trailers and advertisements for Elementary and i have to admit it did nothing for me...not sure why but it just failed to peek any interest for me
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Sherlock is one of the best series out there. Every episode is like watching a movie. Hard to believe, but the 3rd season is even better IMO.
hard to believe anything could be better than "The Reichenbach Fall" episode from season 2
but i'm looking forward to finding out
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i've seen some trailers and advertisements for Elementary and i have to admit it did nothing for me...not sure why but it just failed to peek any interest for me
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hard to believe anything could be better than "The Reichenbach Fall" episode from season 2
but i'm looking forward to finding out
Elementary took me a season to get really into it. Its not as polished as sherlock but I really do like the vulnerable holmes character that they created. It is an interesting take on the psychology of brilliance.
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Just watched "The Empty Hearse"....all i can say is WOW...this is brilliant tv
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Old 02-25-2014, 01:33 PM   #3385 (permalink)
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Can't wait for Ray Donovan to start up again.

Wendell Pierce and Hank Azaria have been added to the cast, and just heard Ann Margeret has now been added.
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true detectives lost me this week. i was getting tired of it, but the 6 minute raid scene last week brought me right back. and then the massive downer that was this week's episode lost me again, this time for good. there are only 2 episodes left, i think, but since i couldn't care less about any of the characters i have no interest in tuning back in. too bad. good acting, but what a depressing shit show.
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Old 02-26-2014, 08:13 AM   #3387 (permalink)
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well i just finished watching season for of Downton Abbey. I really liked it. a shame it's all done.

although i think new season of Vikings starts this week.

those are really the only two shows i follow.
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true detectives lost me this week. i was getting tired of it, but the 6 minute raid scene last week brought me right back. and then the massive downer that was this week's episode lost me again, this time for good. there are only 2 episodes left, i think, but since i couldn't care less about any of the characters i have no interest in tuning back in. too bad. good acting, but what a depressing shit show.
Yeah, bad episode. The only thing I enjoyed was the ass of the blonde chick that Woody Harrelson was banging. Wow!!
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Old 02-26-2014, 08:46 AM   #3389 (permalink)
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true detectives lost me this week. i was getting tired of it, but the 6 minute raid scene last week brought me right back. and then the massive downer that was this week's episode lost me again, this time for good. there are only 2 episodes left, i think, but since i couldn't care less about any of the characters i have no interest in tuning back in. too bad. good acting, but what a depressing shit show.
Always interesting to hear an opposite opinion. I feel that this is one of the deepest and best written shows that I've ever seen. I'm not sure what episode you are talking about (I'm assuming 5 because 4 ended in the 6 minute one shot scene) but for me 5 may have been the best episode in the series. Episode 6 slowed the pace again but started to set things up for the finish.

In fact, I've enjoyed the show so much that I've re-watched each episode to pick up on some things that I'd missed.

Anyways, I'm going to miss it when it's over. Hopefully they'll find an equally good cast for season 2 (which will be incredibly difficult).
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Always interesting to hear an opposite opinion. I feel that this is one of the deepest and best written shows that I've ever seen. I'm not sure what episode you are talking about (I'm assuming 5 because 4 ended in the 6 minute one shot scene) but for me 5 may have been the best episode in the series. Episode 6 slowed the pace again but started to set things up for the finish.

In fact, I've enjoyed the show so much that I've re-watched each episode to pick up on some things that I'd missed.

Anyways, I'm going to miss it when it's over. Hopefully they'll find an equally good cast for season 2 (which will be incredibly difficult).
I agree - and it's definitely a show worth re-watching because names etc. that seem inconsequential in earlier episdoes turn up to be important later.

The only thing I disliked about the last episode is Woody was having a drink with that girl in the bar, and then there was a scene with another character, they went back to Wood and the Girl and I swear they were in different clothes and they were hanging out outside of a completely different bar. That seemed sloppy for such a great show.

I hope the ending doesn't disappoint me - I don't think it will.
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i agree that it is well-written. i have just lost interest due to it being incredibly depressing and very slow-moving. and i don't like shows where i dislike every character.
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i agree that it is well-written. i have just lost interest due to it being incredibly depressing and very slow-moving. and i don't like shows where i dislike every character.
It's definitely not an uplifting show. I always have to watch something else after it before I head to bed.

But wait, you hate Rust Cohle?
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i find him very unappealing, although i didn't say hate. i said i don't care what happens to him.
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I don't think true detectives is well-written in any kind of larger, cohesive sense. There is not a lot of real depth there that i see, nut rather all kinds of stuff that hints at depth. I stand by my earlier opinion of it being somewhat like a videogame. Enticing and engrossing and basically all surface with not much to tie everything together properly. There does not seem to be a great thematic substance of any kind. It's a created reality where women pretty much do not exist in any substantial way. And when they threw in satanic worship as a plot device they pretty much lost me as anyone that could suggest it is well-written.

I recommend Forbrydelsen once again. Now that was well-written, and even more engrossing and intense, within a world that reflected everyday reality.
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sorry i've lost you lx, but i think it is well-written, if not gender-neutral. the dialogue is all good, and at times excellent. and there is a whole hell of a lot to tie it together, especially with all of the references to the king in yellow, and with bringing so many connections to pulp detective stories, to horror writing and comic books. there is all kinds of depth to this, if you can find it and if you have those sorts of interests.

i don't, so i have begun to lose interest. but that doesn't mean it isn't well-written. and the satan worship is most certainly not a throw-in.
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sorry i've lost you lx, but i think it is well-written, if not gender-neutral. the dialogue is all good, and at times excellent. and there is a whole hell of a lot to tie it together, especially with all of the references to the king in yellow, and with bringing so many connections to pulp detective stories, to horror writing and comic books. there is all kinds of depth to this, if you can find it and if you have those sorts of interests.

i don't, so i have begun to lose interest. but that doesn't mean it isn't well-written. and the satan worship is most certainly not a throw-in.
That is pretty much why i think of it as a videogame. Yes there are strings of references, but i do not see any thematic purpose that can be applied to the real world. I guess saying it is not well-written goes too far. I should backtrack and say it is mostly empty calories, and the writing is not the strong suit. If you need to have certain interests to find depth then i think i might be correct in saying it only hints at depth. We see a character that has all kinds of possible depths, but we only get to hear about an interesting past and see how he has been affected in his present self. But we don't get much of an idea of a truly fleshed-out character. The other character is not really fleshed out much at all outside of basic stereotypes. The acting offers a lot in all of that, but not so much the writing. But i guess for what it is, it maybe works.
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how many shows in the history of tv match your criteria for good, strong writing? 3 or 4, maybe? this is leaps and bounds better writing than pretty much everything out there. i find it depressing, but that's about my only criticism.
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Just started watching Sherlock...wow.

Benedict Cumberbatch is just a monstrous actor.
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Just started watching Sherlock...wow.

Benedict Cumberbatch is just a monstrous actor.
yup, blown away by it
Cumberbatch is incredible...but Martin Freeman is equally as good imho...recently watched an episode where Freeman has a scene at a certain "gravesite"...he was brilliant to say the least
can't get enough of this show
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yup, blown away by it
Cumberbatch is incredible...but Martin Freeman is equally as good imho...recently watched an episode where Freeman has a scene at a certain "gravesite"...he was brilliant to say the least
can't get enough of this show
Definitely one of the best shows out there. I agree though Freeman is severely underrated for playing the straight man to Cumberbatch's eccentric character. Don't want to spoil anything, but Freeman gave a terrific performance in the last episode.
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