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Old 07-28-2008, 01:38 PM   #101 (permalink)
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therefore, both advantageous for businesses to accomodate a large portion of their client base

Well said.

So not only are we expected to legislate a smoother ride for other people, even though we owe them nothing except common courtesy and equal treatment. But we have to allow societal pressures that attack our morality make us feel like shit when the real reason we even give a shit about this group of people is because it's them that spend the most CASH at our shopping malls. And I'm supposed to wake up and feel good about a world that make sme feel horrible about wanting to go about my business without being told what to do, all while the very people doing it are doing it for less than benevolant reasons.

No way man.

Maybe I like Ayn Rand too.

Maybe I don't, but I sure as hell don't think anyone has the right to make a rule out of a nicety in my society. What if I don't like the rule. Does this make me an asshole? Surface visuals aside, can we really judge people for how or when the show thier compassion?
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Old 07-28-2008, 01:49 PM   #102 (permalink)
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I see both your points, and you are both kind of saying the same thing.

SJ agrees that some discretion should be given to those in need, he just doesn't want it legislated.

Can't say I argue with that, I think it is a more serious statment on how people are being brought up, and lack of compassion in the community. Once compassion becomes legislated though, it becomes something else, and the decision makers than get to decide where and when I am supposed to be honorable, I think that decision is best left in my own hands.
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Old 07-28-2008, 01:53 PM   #103 (permalink)
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oh what the fuck, go away, you jumped to the end of my argument already.... DOUCHEBAG.

heehee.

ya I was inda going there. A society that legislates morality is taking that morality and turning it into a rule, and it will be fought against and you could end up somewhere way more sterile, and way less caring.

Good convo guys.
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Old 07-28-2008, 01:53 PM   #104 (permalink)
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On a side note I'd like to nominate people who don't acknowledge when you hold a door open for them, allow them to go ahead of you even when you were first, give up your seat so they can sit down, etc, etc...

Is it really too much effort to say thank you?
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Old 07-28-2008, 01:55 PM   #105 (permalink)
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On a side note I'd like to nominate people who don't acknowledge when you hold a door open for them, allow them to go ahead of you even when you were first, give up your seat so they can sit down, etc, etc...
I have a question about the door thing, most buildings have double doors...back to back...my question is do you thank on the first door or the second one....or both...I find it awkward.
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Old 07-28-2008, 01:56 PM   #106 (permalink)
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I have a question about the door thing, most buildings have double doors...back to back...my question is do you thank on the first door or the second one....or both...I find it awkward.
Me too.

I usually say "thank you" and the second time "thanks again"...
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Old 07-28-2008, 01:57 PM   #107 (permalink)
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Me too.

I usually say "thank you" and the second time "thanks again"...
Hmmm this question deserves a,..........
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Old 07-28-2008, 02:00 PM   #108 (permalink)
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its redundancy.

one thanks is enough.
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Old 07-28-2008, 02:00 PM   #109 (permalink)
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but should we recognise the door holder as abenefit to society and therefore assign a better parking spot for him??

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Old 07-28-2008, 02:01 PM   #110 (permalink)
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Me too.

I usually say "thank you" and the second time "thanks again"...
Same here. Nothing wrong with it.
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but should we recognise the door holder as abenefit to society and therefore assign a better parking spot for him??

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Old 07-28-2008, 02:03 PM   #112 (permalink)
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sj and i have been pm'ing this conversation as well... seeing as how i responded to his question there and he has posted a similar point here, i am cutting and pasting my response. i just don't feel like typing it all again.

I told him that in my life on this planet i have a choice between being accomodating on one hand and gobbling up what i need and trampling on people's backs on the other... an overstatement, but you get my point...

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Oh I see.

So by not wanting to legislate special priveldge (edit - this is regarding parking spots), a person is trampling on other peoples backs?

That doesn't sound right to me.
i would say yes, in a way it is. it's about selflessness vs selfishness. if you think it's more important to get to the shop 30 seconds faster than to provide accessible parking for expectant mothers i would say that's pretty selfish.

and this is precisely my point. you are seeing it as a special privilege for them and thereby completely ignoring the invisible privilege that you enjoy everyday by way of being a (i'm about to make a couple of assumptions here that i'm pretty sure are true) fairly healthy, reasonably well-off white man. i know you've had your injuries and that you live in parkdale, but you just don't experience the same barriers to inclusion that, say, an expectant refugee mother from Eritrea might face.

this is not about creating a special privilege for people in need. it's about unpacking and sharing the privilege that we take for granted every day.
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but should we recognise the door holder as abenefit to society and therefore assign a better parking spot for him??

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no, we say thanks and then do the same for someone else later. it's called courtesy.
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Old 07-28-2008, 02:05 PM   #114 (permalink)
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dirty low down dog.

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this has NOTHING to do with what I personnally think or do.

nope.

I can tell you this, I don't give a shit where I park, I feel that the quicked I am out the faster im in, therefore I park far away instead of having to look for that one great spot.
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Me too, back off the lot parking.
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Old 07-28-2008, 02:06 PM   #116 (permalink)
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no, we say thanks and then do the same for someone else later. it's called courtesy.
ya, but if he has a spot closer, and mor elike him do as well, you'd have more chance of having people like that holding doors at your particular store becuase you made them feel appreciated.

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sorry if you are bothered by me re-posting the pm. i figured it was the same point you have made here, and it was a good one, so it wouldn't be going too far to make it public.

hell, i left out the part about rape and pillaging...
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Old 07-28-2008, 02:10 PM   #118 (permalink)
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heehee.

its all good.

I'm mean and deserve to be worked over a little anyhow.
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Old 07-28-2008, 03:32 PM   #119 (permalink)
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5.Bono
You're not John Lennon. nuff said.

And I assume holing up in some hotel room with 2-3 hookers and a pile of coke is a better use of your time? I cannot for the life of me understand people who toss hate at other people who are trying to make a difference.
he uses his fan-base for political leverage while he plays politician forgetting himself as an artist. that's a great big deal of douchebaggary. you wanna make a difference, sing about it.
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Old 07-28-2008, 03:33 PM   #120 (permalink)
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I see both your points, and you are both kind of saying the same thing.

SJ agrees that some discretion should be given to those in need, he just doesn't want it legislated.

Can't say I argue with that, I think it is a more serious statment on how people are being brought up, and lack of compassion in the community. Once compassion becomes legislated though, it becomes something else, and the decision makers than get to decide where and when I am supposed to be honorable, I think that decision is best left in my own hands.
i have no problem leaving that in your hands benzo, because you're an honourable person. but there are plenty out there that aren't. the legislation is there to confront the free-rider problem.

frankly, i would always pay for my tomatoes because it's the right thing to do, but we need a law against stealing because if it wasn't there we wouldn't have anybody making money off tomatoes, and that's the basis of our whole system.
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