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Old 08-05-2013, 11:49 PM   #1281 (permalink)
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If your caloric maintenance level is 2500, and you eat 2600 calories a day. you will not lose fat. Doesnt matter if you only eat chicken breast, sweet potatoes and brocolli. You will gain weight. This is however an extremely good lean bulking idea(some tweaking required).

To you who said you've gotten leaner while eating above maintenance, you either dropped water weight, lean bulked perfectly and started to gain dry mass, or severly miscalculated.

You cant build muscle eating under maintenance
you cant lose fate eating over maintenance
you cant build muscle and lose fat at the same time.


I've heard body "recomping" is possible without steroids, but i'd assume you need god tier genetics and a perfect diet with perfect training.
You have to take in consideration the type of job you have as well. If your a construction worker you can burn a ton of calories working full time at 40 hours a week.
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Old 08-06-2013, 12:26 AM   #1282 (permalink)
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You have to take in consideration the type of job you have as well. If your a construction worker you can burn a ton of calories working full time at 40 hours a week.

Sorry, by maintenance i meant the amount of cals needed to maintain current weight. cal+/- still works out regardless
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Old 08-06-2013, 12:31 AM   #1283 (permalink)
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lol I hate getting overly scientific about this shit. Most ppls goals are not really numerical as much as we usually make em that way to quantify shit. Ppl wanna get thinner, leaner, stronger whatever.

I dont care if its possible on paper, on the whole it works and its definitely possible. Lean bulking, dry mass, call it whatever you want. Simply put you can lose bad weight (fat) and gain good weight (muscle) at the same time. I dont count every calorie I eat, but I didnt lose a pound of weight ...dropped from 12% to 9.9% body fat and Im lifting heavier than ever in the last few months.

Eat clean. Eat lots. Work hard. Done.
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Old 08-06-2013, 08:48 AM   #1284 (permalink)
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Old 08-06-2013, 11:25 AM   #1285 (permalink)
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to say it's impossible to build muscle under maintenance is patently false. i've gotten stronger eating at under maintenance. the gains slow down, but they still come if you're working hard enough.
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Old 08-06-2013, 04:01 PM   #1286 (permalink)
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to say it's impossible to build muscle under maintenance is patently false. i've gotten stronger eating at under maintenance. the gains slow down, but they still come if you're working hard enough.
Your body learned to recruit more muscle fibers while under maintenance. Your body learned to adapt. You didnt build shit. You cant build a house without material, you cant build muscle without food.


@Sauce if you can go into the science behind it or possibly show me an article or anything, I'd love to learn and would really appreciate it.


I'm not trying to start a shitstorm. And I 100% agree in the eat clean lift hard motto. But the things you guys are talking about is so ridiculously hard to achive naturally (Body recomping) and i just feel is bad advice to give a new lifter. Im obviously against starving yourself to lose weight, and im against dirty bulking heavy to gain. I think bulking and cutting periods a few hundred cals over and under is optimal and significantly easier then trying to gain muscle and lose fat at the same time.

I also hope that this isnt getting in the way of your competition.
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Old 08-07-2013, 12:46 AM   #1287 (permalink)
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Thats pretty good. I never understood the firm muscle mass reading. Do they not account weight of fluid and bones in out body. According to the gym scale mine is 89% lol ... impossible.

Height: 5'9
Weight: 173.01lbs
BF%: 9.9%
BMR - 7684kJ - 1836 cal <--- dunno wtf this means
Fat Mass - 17.2lb
FFM - 155.81lb
BMR = "Base Metabolic Rate" which is the number of cals that your body needs to maintain it's current weight. May not be entirely accurate since it probably doesn't take into account your general activity level.

I agree with what "simply" has been saying for what it's worth. You lose weight when you're in a deficit.... and you gain when you're in a surplus.

You can certainly get stronger on a cut by training your CNS to adapt to heavier loads... but you won't be growing any new muscle. This is exactly why you see those rare dudes in the gym who might be 150lbs.... but can bench 275+.

When most people "eat clean" they're actually eating at a deficit without even knowing it.... because cutting out carbs and pop and sweets = cutting out major calories. If you're stuffing your face with salads and chicken breasts you'd actually have to eat A LOT of it (a sickening amount) to push yourself into surplus territory (unless you're a small person).

When you lose fat you actually look BIGGER, in spite of the fact that you might actually weigh LESS than you did before dropping weight.
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Old 08-07-2013, 01:29 AM   #1288 (permalink)
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BMR does not take into account your activities, because it's not meant to. It may be used differently by people talking in gyms, but it's meant to be a term that refers to what calories you'd need to sustain your body in resting state. That is, the amount of calories you'd need to sustain your body if you didn't do any weights or cardio. That shits added on. If you're working out, your maintenance level to keep your current weight is your BMR + calories burned from activities (lifting and exercise).

I mentioned BMR above when talking about people who are trying to lose a lot of weight and how they plan their calorie intake in relation to it.
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I also think Simply is pretty much right. But, as I mentioned in another thread about Jonas's weight gain, in the early phases after returning to powerlifts from rehabing injuries (I've had to do it a couple of times), I always make massive gains on compound lifts in the first few months back and yet melt some fat. It really does feel like my body is doing both simultaneously, even if it is not. I suppose it is possible that, since I'm talking about a several month stretch, there were weeks where muscle was added and others where a few pounds of fat were burnt, without anything going on simultaneously.
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Old 08-12-2013, 12:20 AM   #1290 (permalink)
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Alright.

I'll do a weekly update here every Sunday. For now we will start week one today. Next update will be on the 11th of August.

Right now:

Height: 5'10"
Weight: 155.0lbs
BF%: 12.0%

I do my weight check in the morning on an empty stomach. Around 8pm I'm literally 4 pounds heavier.
August 11th Weekly update

Weight: 159.0lbs
BF%: 13.5%

Quite a big difference from last week.
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Old 08-18-2013, 09:24 PM   #1291 (permalink)
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August 11th Weekly update

Weight: 159.0lbs
BF%: 13.5%

Quite a big difference from last week.
August 18th weekly update

Weight 162.2lbs
BF%: 14.2%

Btw this thread sure died
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Old 08-19-2013, 12:52 AM   #1292 (permalink)
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My bad, just finished summer school so been busy. I'll have my updated measurements tomorrow. Need to go hard af these next 3 weeks till school starts.
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Old 08-23-2013, 01:42 AM   #1293 (permalink)
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Weight: 68.3 kg (150.5 lbs) I'm actually back at 150, good to know lol
BF%: 11.6%
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Weight: 67.1kg
BF%: 10.9
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Old 08-23-2013, 02:53 PM   #1294 (permalink)
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Haven't been able to do shit since I injured my wrist. Lost 5 lbs.
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Old 08-25-2013, 05:46 PM   #1295 (permalink)
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August 18th weekly update

Weight 162.2lbs
BF%: 14.2%

Btw this thread sure died
August 24th Weekly Update

Weight: 162.4lbs
BF%: 14.4%

Going to Costco today.
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Old 09-07-2013, 11:54 PM   #1296 (permalink)
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August 24th Weekly Update

Weight: 162.4lbs
BF%: 14.4%

Going to Costco today.
September 7th Weekly Update

Weight: 165.2lbs
BF%: 14.9%
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Old 09-07-2013, 11:59 PM   #1297 (permalink)
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Alright.

I'll do a weekly update here every Sunday. For now we will start week one today. Next update will be on the 11th of August.

Right now:

Height: 5'10"
Weight: 155.0lbs
BF%: 12.0%

I do my weight check in the morning on an empty stomach. Around 8pm I'm literally 4 pounds heavier.
10 pounds so far. Have made huge improvements on my bench numbers and squat numbers. I can bench 205 now and squat 225 now.

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Old 09-11-2013, 09:45 AM   #1298 (permalink)
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Do yall workout in the morning or afternoon?

Since school started I think imma try in the morning, so I can go to school and not worry about squeezing in a workout. Gonna be tough to get in the morning routine though
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Old 09-11-2013, 01:25 PM   #1299 (permalink)
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according to the scale...
242 Lbs
24.6% BF
65.9% Muscle
45.9% Water
haven't done an update in a while so i thought i'd get on the scale this morning...happy to announce i'm still moving in the right direction

stopped doing pyramid sets cause my elbows started to flair up a bit...was in quite a bit of pain for about a week
have leveled off with the weights since then and they seem to be getting better
in the gym 6 days a week right now and sticking to my diet...coaching 2 different hockey teams this year so i'm on the ice pretty much 7 days a week as well

here's my updated numbers (according to my scale)

239 lbs - down 3 lbs
23.4 % BF - down 1.2 %
66.6 % Muscle - up 0.7 %
47.4 % Water - up 1.5 %

slow and steady
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Old 09-11-2013, 03:48 PM   #1300 (permalink)
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Gonna start lifting for mass. Wanna get to a benching 185 then maintain it
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