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Old 03-14-2011, 05:18 PM   #361 (permalink)
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Heh.

Actually, I was gonna ask you about leg exercises that are good for "lean" muscle. I always worry that the squats and lunges are gonna eventually make my legs look big.

They are two of the best exercises for legs. Leg presses are also good.
Women dont have the same level of testosterone as men to get huge when they work out. They can really go crazy with the weights and not worry about looking to bulky.
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They are two of the best exercises for legs. Leg presses are also good.
Women dont have the same level of testosterone as men to get huge when they work out. They can really go crazy with the weights and not worry about looking to bulky.
I know, people keep telling me that... but we women suffer from I call Female Paranoia.
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And you're welcome to that POV... but it's about as "correct" as the assumptions that some women have about weightlifting ("OMG, I'll never do it because I don't want to get HUGE!").

I've spoken to men in their 50s who are still moving monstrous weight (400+lbs) and they've been lifting "heavy weights" for 30+ years. They're not "broken down old men"... on the contrary, they're FAR stronger and more fit than most other men their age (or younger!).

As for having a "chiselled body".... that's less about pushing weights and more about dieting.
I wouldnt consider those two issues the same. But how about runners. Do you belive there is a correct way to run without it taking a toll on your body, year afer year after year?

I consider myself a gym rat. And for you to say that you know 50 year old men that lift 400lbs and dont complain about joint problems. Their are always exceptions to the rule. But that is just laughable.

So my next question is, are you one of those guys that always had a story to top someone elses. Or are you the type of guy that loves to play devils advocate.
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I wouldnt consider those two issues the same. But how about runners. Do you belive there is a correct way to run without it taking a toll on your body, year afer year after year?
Yes. Proper equipment is key. As is proper training and diet. But it's definitely possible. One of my co-workers is in his 50s and REGULARLY runs 15-20/day. Now he has a slight build... a "runner's body" if you will so that makes it easier... but he trains his as$ off too so it works for him. No pains for him at all. I've also got another co-worker who's been running for 10 years and is capable of running for 19 hrs straight (he's into mega-endurance races). He doesn't have any problems either. Or there's one of my g/fs who a triathlete who's been running for 15 years. She just did the Ironman last year in NZ. No problems for her either.

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I consider myself a gym rat. And for you to say that you know 50 year old men that lift 400lbs and dont complain about joint problems. Their are always exceptions to the rule. But that is just laughable.
You believe what you want to believe.... Every single one of them to a man has told me that lifting heavy weights has HELPED them far more than it's hindered them.

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So my next question is, are you one of those guys that always had a story to top someone elses. Or are you the type of guy that loves to play devils advocate.
You're also welcome to think that.... I think that most people who've been around this site for a while know that that's not my thing. I'm simply trying to dispel a myth that MANY people actually think is gospel truth.

When I graduated university I was 160lbs.

Right now I'm about 245lbs.... and it ain't all fat.

How did I do it? By LIFTING HEAVY WEIGHTS for about 12 years pretty consistently and making sure that I ate well and properly supplimented to feed my growing muscles.

No bad back. No bum shoulders. No blown knees.

So either I'm a genetic freak or maybe... just maybe I know what I'm talking about here.
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I know, people keep telling me that... but we women suffer from I call Female Paranoia.
'cudes... I'm not gonna lie to you.... the biggest obstacle that you're going to face is MENTAL. You can't worry about gaining 10lbs (which can easily happen if you're putting on muscle) or getting a little "thicker".... THAT's what derails the progress of a lot of women. They get a little bit of a bicep or their legs grow a little bit and all of a sudden they're freaking because they think they're gonna turn into the Hulk or they're bummed because they think that they don't look like "Hollywood starlets". Well ya know what? Hollywood starlets SUCK. Who the hell wants to look like Ally McBeal or Angelina Jolie?? Yuck.

You're tall enough and thin enough that you could EASILY put on 10-20lbs and still look amazing (and not "manly" at all). You just have to get past that fear.

Bodybuilding.com is an excellent site with A LOT of great info. there. They have a female forum too where you can ask other women questions about what may or may not work for you.

Female Bodybuilding - Bodybuilding.com Forums

I certainly don't everything about everything but if I can help you out at all I'll certainly try to!
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'cudes... I'm not gonna lie to you.... the biggest obstacle that you're going to face is MENTAL. You can't worry about gaining 10lbs (which can easily happen if you're putting on muscle) or getting a little "thicker".... THAT's what derails the progress of a lot of women. They get a little bit of a bicep or their legs grow a little bit and all of a sudden they're freaking because they think they're gonna turn into the Hulk or they're bummed because they think that they don't look like "Hollywood starlets". Well ya know what? Hollywood starlets SUCK. Who the hell wants to look like Ally McBeal or Angelina Jolie?? Yuck.

You're tall enough and thin enough that you could EASILY put on 10-20lbs and still look amazing (and not "manly" at all). You just have to get past that fear.

Bodybuilding.com is an excellent site with A LOT of great info. there. They have a female forum too where you can ask other women questions about what may or may not work for you.

Female Bodybuilding - Bodybuilding.com Forums

I certainly don't everything about everything but if I can help you out at all I'll certainly try to!
Yeah, the muscle cells are denser than fat cells. So Muscle weighs more. SO you could lose a lil fat and gain muscle and actually look better getting heavier.
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'cudes... I'm not gonna lie to you.... the biggest obstacle that you're going to face is MENTAL. You can't worry about gaining 10lbs (which can easily happen if you're putting on muscle) or getting a little "thicker".... THAT's what derails the progress of a lot of women. They get a little bit of a bicep or their legs grow a little bit and all of a sudden they're freaking because they think they're gonna turn into the Hulk or they're bummed because they think that they don't look like "Hollywood starlets". Well ya know what? Hollywood starlets SUCK. Who the hell wants to look like Ally McBeal or Angelina Jolie?? Yuck.

You're tall enough and thin enough that you could EASILY put on 10-20lbs and still look amazing (and not "manly" at all). You just have to get past that fear.

Bodybuilding.com is an excellent site with A LOT of great info. there. They have a female forum too where you can ask other women questions about what may or may not work for you.

Female Bodybuilding - Bodybuilding.com Forums

I certainly don't everything about everything but if I can help you out at all I'll certainly try to!
Thanks, TORap!
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Old 03-15-2011, 12:35 PM   #368 (permalink)
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Yes. Proper equipment is key. As is proper training and diet. But it's definitely possible. One of my co-workers is in his 50s and REGULARLY runs 15-20/day. Now he has a slight build... a "runner's body" if you will so that makes it easier... but he trains his as$ off too so it works for him. No pains for him at all. I've also got another co-worker who's been running for 10 years and is capable of running for 19 hrs straight (he's into mega-endurance races). He doesn't have any problems either. Or there's one of my g/fs who a triathlete who's been running for 15 years. She just did the Ironman last year in NZ. No problems for her either.



You believe what you want to believe.... Every single one of them to a man has told me that lifting heavy weights has HELPED them far more than it's hindered them.



You're also welcome to think that.... I think that most people who've been around this site for a while know that that's not my thing. I'm simply trying to dispel a myth that MANY people actually think is gospel truth.

When I graduated university I was 160lbs.

Right now I'm about 245lbs.... and it ain't all fat.

How did I do it? By LIFTING HEAVY WEIGHTS for about 12 years pretty consistently and making sure that I ate well and properly supplimented to feed my growing muscles.

No bad back. No bum shoulders. No blown knees.

So either I'm a genetic freak or maybe... just maybe I know what I'm talking about here.
Didnt really need a bio on you. I kinda figured you know what your talking about.
I totally agree with you that weight training has sooo many benefits. I am enjoying them myself. But they also say you should swithc up your training. LIke doing 6 weeks of heavy training low reps, then 6 weeks of lighter high reps.
I wasnt getting into a discussion on whether weight training was beneficial, or whether their are benefits to heavy weight training. Just that excessive heavy weight training can do damage. but we will have to agree to disagree on this one.
Maybe we will agree on something other topic.
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Didnt really need a bio on you. I kinda figured you know what your talking about.
I totally agree with you that weight training has sooo many benefits. I am enjoying them myself. But they also say you should swithc up your training. LIke doing 6 weeks of heavy training low reps, then 6 weeks of lighter high reps.
I wasnt getting into a discussion on whether weight training was beneficial, or whether their are benefits to heavy weight training. Just that excessive heavy weight training can do damage. but we will have to agree to disagree on this one.
Maybe we will agree on something other topic.
I agree with this 100%.

Maybe we've misunderstood each other then.... I completely agree if you're suggesting that "lifting heavy weights constantly without giving your body a break is bad for you". Your body will def. need some time to "recoup" every so often.... whether it be a "de-load" week (where you use light weights and higher reps) or a break altogether.

If this is what you meant then I apologize.
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Thanks, TORap!
No problem chickie! You go and get your "She-Ra" on!
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I agree with this 100%.

Maybe we've misunderstood each other then.... I completely agree if you're suggesting that "lifting heavy weights constantly without giving your body a break is bad for you". Your body will def. need some time to "recoup" every so often.... whether it be a "de-load" week (where you use light weights and higher reps) or a break altogether.

If this is what you meant then I apologize.
No need for apologies.
Just curious, what is your chest routine now. I am gettting stale with mine and am looking for some new ideas.
As well, what do you know about Amino Acid products like Xtend. I ussually only take Protein shakes, but i wanna try something else with it. This product sounds good, but i dont wanna feel anxiety as a side effect of it.
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No problem chickie! You go and get your "She-Ra" on!
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No need for apologies.
Just curious, what is your chest routine now. I am gettting stale with mine and am looking for some new ideas.
As well, what do you know about Amino Acid products like Xtend. I ussually only take Protein shakes, but i wanna try something else with it. This product sounds good, but i dont wanna feel anxiety as a side effect of it.
Currently I alternate....

Workout A for Chest:

Flat Barbell Bench
Incline DB Bench
Hammer Strength Decline Press
Machine Pec Fly


Workout B for Chest:

Incline BB Bench
Flat DB Bench
Machine Chest Press
Machine Pec Fly


If you're just looking at chest development I'd stick with DBs.... but I've been trying to bring up my bench so I include BB work as well. Hammer Strength machines are pretty good too if your gym has them.

I tried Xtend and hated it. It doesn't mix worth shit and it's tart as hell. I prefer "Amino Energy" (by ON). Gives me a nice kick in the morning and goes down very smooth. Different strokes for different folks though. AE is about $35 (some places have it cheaper).
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Currently I alternate....

Workout A for Chest:

Flat Barbell Bench
Incline DB Bench
Hammer Strength Decline Press
Machine Pec Fly


Workout B for Chest:

Incline BB Bench
Flat DB Bench
Machine Chest Press
Machine Pec Fly


If you're just looking at chest development I'd stick with DBs.... but I've been trying to bring up my bench so I include BB work as well. Hammer Strength machines are pretty good too if your gym has them.

I tried Xtend and hated it. It doesn't mix worth shit and it's tart as hell. I prefer "Amino Energy" (by ON). Gives me a nice kick in the morning and goes down very smooth. Different strokes for different folks though. AE is about $35 (some places have it cheaper).
Thanks Allot. Your chest workout is very similar to mine. I also include push ups.
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Currently I alternate....

Workout A for Chest:

Flat Barbell Bench
Incline DB Bench
Hammer Strength Decline Press
Machine Pec Fly


Workout B for Chest:

Incline BB Bench
Flat DB Bench
Machine Chest Press
Machine Pec Fly


If you're just looking at chest development I'd stick with DBs.... but I've been trying to bring up my bench so I include BB work as well. Hammer Strength machines are pretty good too if your gym has them.

I tried Xtend and hated it. It doesn't mix worth shit and it's tart as hell. I prefer "Amino Energy" (by ON). Gives me a nice kick in the morning and goes down very smooth. Different strokes for different folks though. AE is about $35 (some places have it cheaper).
TO...I've never used the hammer strength machines, but they do interest me as a lot of the bigger guys at my gym tend to skip the barbell bench and go straight to that. What is the advantage to using the seated hammer strength press?
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The hammer strength forces you be extremely strict with your technique. You can also load it up pretty good and you don't need a spot.
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The hammer strength forces you be extremely strict with your technique. You can also load it up pretty good and you don't need a spot.
What ACIE said. ^^^

I like to use one of those machine later in my chest workout so that if I fail I don't have to worry about dropping weights (either on the floor or on myself lol). Between DBs, BBs and HS I'll try to hit my chest area from 3 different angles.... incline, decline and flat.

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TO...I've never used the hammer strength machines, but they do interest me as a lot of the bigger guys at my gym tend to skip the barbell bench and go straight to that. What is the advantage to using the seated hammer strength press?
Not exactly sure what you mean by this.... the incline press and decline press are "seated" (like you're in a chair)... but there is one that you lie down on which simulates the flat bench press pretty nicely too.



I think that I get the best squeeze in my pecs from this one.

BIG, big fan of the HS machines for your back too. I ALWAYS use those on back day.

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What ACIE said. ^^^

I like to use one of those machine later in my chest workout so that if I fail I don't have to worry about dropping weights (either on the floor or on myself lol). Between DBs, BBs and HS I'll try to hit my chest area from 3 different angles.... incline, decline and flat.
i've always stayed away from decline for whatever reason,, but i generally will do an incline and a decline mix in each workout. what's the advantage of it?
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i've always stayed away from decline for whatever reason,, but i generally will do an incline and a decline mix in each workout. what's the advantage of it?
Just hitting your chest from different angles basically... which is going to promote more growth.

Decline is generally the easiest of the 3 since the ROM is smaller and you activate your triceps more with the lift.

Incline is the toughest, and hits your front delts and is considered the most effective one for pec development.

If you're not a fan of decline work consider dips.... just make sure to lean forward into them as you lower yourself (be careful how low you go depending on how sensitive your rotator cuffs are) and you'll hit the pecs that way too.
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