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Old 08-07-2014, 02:17 PM   #21 (permalink)
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You guys don't seem to understand that when you have the best player in the world in his prime - and about to leave it - you do whatever it takes to get the best players to surround him now.

The purpose of every team in the league is to win a championship. This puts the Cavaliers in a better position to win a championship now especially with the East being completely weakened.

If you're the Cavs, you're getting a top 10 player in the league through his prime. Love has agreed to sign a full five-year max. But you think they should worrying about Wiggins...possibly becoming a top 10 player in this league?
I think everyone understands that this was a move to appease Lebron. The question is, was it the move it a good basketball move?

Players force GM's to do things a lot (although none with the same leverage as Lebron) but it doesn't mean Lebron is right.
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Old 08-07-2014, 02:20 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Yeah - and Love being a top 10 player is highly debateable.
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Cleveland is fucking dumb.
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Old 08-07-2014, 03:06 PM   #24 (permalink)
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I think this is a good deal for both teams.
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Yeah - and Love being a top 10 player is highly debateable.
He is easily a top 20 player and top 3 at his position. Can you say Wiggins will be those things and how long will that take if it happens? Cleveland becomes an instant contender which is the point of all of this.
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Old 08-07-2014, 03:13 PM   #26 (permalink)
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He is easily a top 20 player and top 3 at his position. Can you say Wiggins will be those things and how long will that take if it happens? Cleveland becomes an instant contender which is the point of all of this.
I actually don't think he is easily top 20. I think he's right around 20. And I think it's debateable that he's top 3 at his position. He's a stat-machine, not a win machine. I would say top 25 for sure and top 5 pf.

Being an instant contender has nothing to do with Love. With Lebron they're an instant contender regardless of this trade. He could have gone to Phili and they become a contender....on paper.

We'll know if Cleveland is a true contender after Christmas.
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I really wanted to root for Cleveland canucks but oh well.

Trade pretty fair, still surprised cavs gave away Wiggins, they could have given 2 firsts and Bennett and that was enough ( other offers were pretty shit)
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Trade pretty fair, still surprised cavs gave away Wiggins, they could have given 2 firsts and Bennett and that was enough ( other offers were pretty shit)
Apparently that wasn't enough. The GSW offer wasn't shit imo.
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Apparently that wasn't enough. The GSW offer wasn't shit imo.
Without klay? Or with him?
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Without klay? Or with him?
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Old 08-07-2014, 03:38 PM   #31 (permalink)
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I see a future with Wiggins and Brazilian Durrant.

But I like my team now, with DD and Ross.. winning is everything though..
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I think this is a good deal for both teams.
You don't trade the number one overall pick before he plays a game. If this team ends up like the 2013 Blue Jays or the Kobe, Dwight, Pau, Nash Lakers, Lebron is likely to bolt and they just traded a top 3 prospect in the league for something that gets them nowhere.

Also, if Love can't net Klay Thompson, why would you trade ANDREW MOTHERFUCKING WIGGINS for him? Cleveland had all the leverage and shitted it all away.
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Also, if Love can't net Klay Thompson, why would you trade ANDREW MOTHERFUCKING WIGGINS for him?.
That's a very good point
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Also, if Love can't net Klay Thompson, why would you trade ANDREW MOTHERFUCKING WIGGINS for him? Cleveland had all the leverage and shitted it all away.
How do you know that Love can't fetch Thompson? There were rumors of both GS willing and not willing to deal him.
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this is a steal for Minny...plain and simple
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this is a steal for Minny...plain and simple
Mehh. The end result is that Cleveland may get a championship or two in the next 4-5 years and Minnesota will struggle to make the playoffs in the WC for the next 3-4 years if not longer. The T-Wolves are trash and not that much will change after this trade imo. Hopefully Wiggins blows up by year 3 and then after year 4 bolts for Toronto.
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Old 08-07-2014, 04:21 PM   #37 (permalink)
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Yea Minny robbed the Cavs. Love had one more year left on his contract, if I was the Cavs I would've just waited a year. I don't think this makes them legit title contenders either
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Old 08-07-2014, 04:23 PM   #38 (permalink)
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Not a steal, because Saunder's is still coaching and he's bound to screw it up and retard the development of Wiggin's and Bennet.
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I don't think this makes them legit title contenders either
Lebron took Cleveland to the finals with a lot less and before he gained championship experience. Any team with Lebron is automatically a title contender imo. Add Kevin Love, Ray Allen, Mike Miller, TT etc around him and they are contenders. How can a top 2 team in their conference not be legit title contenders?

The only think I could see hurting them, at least in the first year aside from injuries of course is that Irving/Love have never been in the playoffs.
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Okay i misworded that, they might get to the finals but there is no way they are going to beat a western conference team. I don't think this team is better than the champtionship teams in Miami
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