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Old 05-03-2013, 01:44 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Ive witnessed a lot of debates lately here and there, online or otherwise, between who was the greatest of all time. I didnt watch Jordan as I wasnt old enough but for those of you who were, who would it be for you comparing the above 3 or anyone else for that matter? What makes them the greatest for you?

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how does bryant's name even get on here? Or Lebron's at this moment?

Jordan vs other is about right, unless you want to gauge who people believe is the best player to step on the court in terms of pure abilities. I still don't see how Kobe gets mentioned without a lot of others listed as something beyond other. Larry Bird kicks his ass.
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how does bryant's name even get on here? Or Lebron's at this moment?

Jordan vs other is about right, unless you want to gauge who people believe is the best player to step on the court in terms of pure abilities. I still don't see how Kobe gets mentioned without a lot of others listed as something beyond other. Larry Bird kicks his ass.
as much as I agree with you (I am not a bryant fan myself) many would consider him part of the discussion simply based on his rings, which is an all interesting part of the eternal debate, hence why I put bryant's name on here because it is something that should be discussed in terms of what it proves
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as much as I agree with you (I am not a bryant fan myself) many would consider him part of the discussion simply based on his rings, which is an all interesting part of the eternal debate, hence why I put bryant's name on here because it is something that should be discussed in terms of what it proves
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How about that guy that averaged 50ppg and 25 rpg?

Larry bird, tim duncan, the dream, wilt, i would take all of them over lebron. Right now.

Kobe? seriously? :jack: Get that gabage autta here!
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I agree kobe shouldnt be in the discussion but a lot of people are hell bent on having them in there and thats why I put him there.

I think lebron should be in the discussion though
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First you need to define "greatest player".

Stats? Talent? Made others better? Rings?

IMO, LBJ will go down as the greatest pound for pound talent player to ever play. No one player in the history of the game has ever changed a teams level then LBJ.

But for my money, Bill Russel and Larry Bird are my greatest eva since they turned good teams into great teams.

The problem I have with MJ is that the rules favored him during his playing days. Players couldnt double team and defenders had to stick to their man. MJ had a lot of manufactured one on ones. However, he does belong in the discussion.
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Old 05-03-2013, 03:08 PM   #8 (permalink)
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This list should be far deeper imo
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the dude has over 30,000 career points.. and is the closest thing to Jordan
to early for Lebron to be there, but if he keeps at this pace.. watch out

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the dude has over 30,000 career points.. and is the closest thing to Jordan
just because some of you are not fans doesn't mean he isn't one of the greatest players of all time

to early for Lebron to be there, but if he keeps at this pace.. watch out
Almost 10 years in the league. I don't think it's too early and I can't stand him.
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Magic, of course.
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My List:
1.Jordan
2.Magic
3.Wilt
4.Kareem
5.Russell
6.Shaq
7.Hakeem
8.LeBron
9.Bird
10.Duncan

Assuming LeBron wins the MVP this year, I think he just passes bird for 8th
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LOL at the three selections being Jordan Lebron JAmes and Kobe Bryant.

There was lots of good basketball before the 2000's.

James and Bryant are the best players of their generation, but not of all time. Not at all. Michael Jordan is better than those two pretty handily. I'll actually add that Shaq was more dominant than those too. For many years he was flat out unstoppable.
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LOL at the three selections being Jordan Lebron JAmes and Kobe Bryant.

There was lots of good basketball before the 2000's.

James and Bryant are the best players of their generation, but not of all time. Not at all. Michael Jordan is better than those two pretty handily. I'll actually add that Shaq was more dominant than those too. For many years he was flat out unstoppable.
Lebron James imo is going to be right up there with Jordan when all is said and done. He can play 4 positions, is on pace to score 35k points in his career, will probably be named MVP 6 times in his career and is becoming a triple double machine. If he can get 4+ rings on top of all that.....
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Jordan for now. I think Lebron could be by the end of his career but I think he'll either need to win more than 6 rings or win 4 in a row.

As for Kobe, he was only the best player on a championship team twice! I'd put Duncan and Shaq above him on the list, and a couple of players from the previous generation.
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Ive witnessed a lot of debates lately here and there, online or otherwise, between who was the greatest of all time. I didnt watch Jordan as I wasnt old enough but for those of you who were, who would it be for you comparing the above 3 or anyone else for that matter? What makes them the greatest for you?

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Dude...you need to do a lttle research regarding NBA history

Jordan ?...deserves to be in the discussion
Lebron ?...get back to me in about 10 years
Kobe ?....

Do yourself a huge favour and go to the NBA History thread...then check out the 50 (or so) players posted by "Mr M"
Those are the players that should be in this discussion

For me...it will always be a tie between Bird and Magic
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Dude...you need to do a lttle research regarding NBA history

Jordan ?...deserves to be in the discussion
Lebron ?...get back to me in about 10 years
Kobe ?....

Do yourself a huge favour and go to the NBA History thread...then check out the 50 (or so) players posted by "Mr M"
Those are the players that should be in this discussion

For me...it will always be a tie between Bird and Magic
for the upteenth time I am not a kobe fan nor would I ever consider him to be in the discussion. a lot of the discussions I have heard/seen have had people put him there, hence the inclusion.
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Dude...you need to do a lttle research regarding NBA history

Jordan ?...deserves to be in the discussion
Lebron ?...get back to me in about 10 years
Kobe ?....

Do yourself a huge favour and go to the NBA History thread...then check out the 50 (or so) players posted by "Mr M"
Those are the players that should be in this discussion

For me...it will always be a tie between Bird and Magic
Kobe actually deserves to be in the conversation, but not for long.
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