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Old 11-15-2011, 08:17 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Talking of pure athleticism track and field athletes are the best, period.
Because for me the definition of athleticism is your ability to reach your fisical limits, not playing a game.

So I say NFL players, but just for CB, WR, RB and TE.
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Old 11-15-2011, 08:49 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Talking of pure athleticism track and field athletes are the best, period.
Because for me the definition of athleticism is your ability to reach your fisical limits, not playing a game.

So I say NFL players, but just for CB, WR, RB and TE.
Your cant forget a lot of DE, LB and Safeties
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Old 11-15-2011, 09:21 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Your cant forget a lot of DE, LB and Safeties
Aye, you're right, but honestly I said only those because are the fastest and more vertical. If it's an average of all the skills, rugby players are better for me.
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Aye, you're right, but honestly I said only those because are the fastest and more vertical. If it's an average of all the skills, rugby players are better for me.
Oh ye, not going to argue, even though I love football and do not really watch rugby, The couple times I have played, It was much harder that football, mostly due to stamina wise as well
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Old 11-15-2011, 10:16 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Hell, I'd take an F1 driver over each.
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Old 11-15-2011, 10:57 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Hell, I'd take an F1 driver over each.
Man I've driven an F1 car on a track before (nothing major speed at all) more or less got to play with it, and see what it felt like. All I can say to that feeling is "wow". Same goes for a nascar... Would love to do either for a living, but never watch em lol.
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Old 11-15-2011, 11:04 PM   #27 (permalink)
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NFL players are trained to run through the wall.
NBA players are trained to jump over the wall.
Different skillset, different disciplines, different sports.
You take and NFL player and put him in the NBA and he'd foul out, or twist an ankle and hobble off. You take an NBA player and put him in a helmet, he'd run around like a frightened baby chipmunk.

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Old 11-15-2011, 11:42 PM   #28 (permalink)
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There are also many linemen that have 40" verticals. If going by factors of strength, speed and explosiveness, then NFL players definitely have the edge.
There are also many linemen who are 300 pounds and extremely out of shape, (not just conditioning) and you would have to include them too.
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There are also many linemen who are 300 pounds and extremely out of shape, (not just conditioning) and you would have to include them too.
I just don't think that is true.
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Old 11-16-2011, 08:24 AM   #30 (permalink)
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There are also many linemen who are 300 pounds and extremely out of shape, (not just conditioning) and you would have to include them too.
Actually those 300 pounders are very athletic...
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Actually those 300 pounders are very athletic...
Of course they are but thats when you compare them with normal people, not other athletes.
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Of course they are but thats when you compare them with normal people, not other athletes.
doesn't strength count? agility? for 350 lb dudes, the way they move is simply incredible.
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Old 11-17-2011, 02:53 AM   #33 (permalink)
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I wouldn't say basketball is the best sport for pushing people to their physical limits, but it is definitely the best sport for showcasing the strengths and physical traits of individuals.

Anyone can play basketball in a way that takes advantage of his/her unique skills and characteristics. Height (or lack of height), weight, athleticism, intelligence, leadership ability, power, instincts, coordination and many other characteristics all factor into a players ability to play the game successfully.

NFLers are probably better athletes on average but I think athleticism may not weigh as heavily on the success of NBA players.

Size definitely factors into success in both sports. You can pit a team of 250lb people against a team of equally athletic 150lb people and its easy to guess which team most people will bet on.
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Hard for me to judge since I know almost nothing about NFL.

But just for perspective. NBA is by far the more global sport. Football may be America's no.1. But I'd bet basketball is crowdsourcing it's athletes from a dedicated fanbase that's at least triple the size.
And only ~450 world's best basketball athletes end up in the NBA. As opposed to how many NFL athletes?
So I'd have to guess NBA is more likely to have collected world's best athletes for its particular sport.

That said, "its particular sport" is the key here.
I don't know what's the criteria for an "athlete" here.
Are 7 ft guys like Yao good athletes? Certainly in basketball; speed and coordination is amazing, and that's what is relevant. Probably not in football. Just like some of those football fat butt guys wouldn't be considered good athletes in most other sports.
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Definitly depend on position.
wide receivers are pretty athletic. You see them doing some crazy aerial moves sometimes. Along with thier strength, speed, and agility.
the best guards in the NBA couldnt keep up with them.
Yes they can. The best NFL players don't have to dribble the ball as the move like the average NBA guard is required to do. And 'strength' is a completely different measurement that 'athleticism.' A person can be strong but not athletic (ie- an old farmer), much like a person can be athletic but not strong at all (ie- a highschool basketball player).

You can be fat & still find plenty of work in the NFL, usually on the defensive squads. This isn't plausible in the NBA. The only GM's who pretend this isn't true are Bryan Colangelo & Ed Stefanski in their love for Reggie Evans.
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You can be fat & still find plenty of work in the NFL, usually on the defensive squads. This isn't plausible in the NBA. The only GM's who pretend this isn't true are Bryan Colangelo & Ed Stefanski in their love for Reggie Evans.
oliver miller, tractor traylor, zach randolph, eddy curry, big baby, steve francis, baron davis, etc beg to differ.

it may not be commonplace, but it certainly is plausible.
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Old 11-18-2011, 03:29 PM   #37 (permalink)
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id say nfl players simply because its a much more physical-oriented game, as compared to basketball which does involve a large amount of skill. however, if we were talking about which sport has the greatest athletes in general, i'd have to say soccer. the amount they run per game, all the while sprinting might i add, and the body to body tackling that goes on (that most non-soccerfans dont know about) all leads to one heck of an athletic oriented game, especially considering the game is quickly becoming more speed, agility and ball control game rather than on pitch technique. i.e, messi thrives in todays game but wouldnt forty years ago.
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iif we were talking about which sport has the greatest athletes in general, i'd have to say soccer. the amount they run per game, all the while sprinting might i add, and the body to body tackling that goes on (that most non-soccerfans dont know about) all leads to one heck of an athletic oriented game, especially considering the game is quickly becoming more speed, agility and ball control game rather than on pitch technique. i.e, messi thrives in todays game but wouldnt forty years ago.
that's why i mentioned rugby. it has all of the things you mentioned in soccer, plus full contact, scrums, rucks, mauls, lineouts, etc.
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when measuring athleticism, you should look at how those athletic skills can be used across all sports. the more the more athletic, the less the less athletic, ex: the ability to jump high is needed in basketball and football (WR) whereas a golfers aren't seen as very athletic because the skills in golf doesn't translate well in other sports.
so the most logical way to see which sport has the most athletic players is to see which sport has the most players that can also play another sport at a relatively high level right?
ESPN had an article awhile back that said MLB had the most multi-sport athletes. i don't know who has more between NBA and NFL but there are well known ones in both leagues like iverson, lebron, nate robinson, antonio gates, tony gonzalez, etc
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Old 11-18-2011, 09:22 PM   #40 (permalink)
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i think nba players cardiovascular is much more superior to NFL players
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