What's the Best Draft Class Ever?
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June 22, 2009 @ 4:26 am by Chris Tomasson

Cue up the grainy highlights. It’s a good time for draft anniversaries.

It’s the 50-year anniversary of when Wilt Chamberlain was drafted, and the 40th anniversary of when Kareem Abdul-Jabbar was plucked from the college ranks. It’s the 25th anniversary of Michael Jordan heading to the stage, although he did keep in his tongue.

It must be said that, while any draft with Chamberlain can’t be overlooked, there wasn’t much depth after he was a territorial pick. The only other Hall of Famer to go in 1959 was Bailey Howell, No. 2 in the regular phase.

Abdul-Jabbar’s 1969 draft had even less depth, producing no other Hall of Famers. After the big fellow went No. 1, the next best player taken was seven-time All-Star Jo Jo White.

As for 1984, that’s quite another story. While Jordan was the No. 3 pick, three other Hall of Famers are draft classmates, top pick Hakeem Olajuwon, No. 5 Charles Barkley and No. 16 John Stockton.

“I think our class is pretty impressive,’’ Barkley said. “I think ours would go up against many (classes).’’

The 1984 class no doubt ranks among the greatest in NBA history. But is it the best ever?

Barkley didn’t want to go that far. But Barkley was asked how the class stacks up against the star-studded 1996 group, which is looking even better after Lakers guard Kobe Bryant just was handed the NBA Finals MVP.

“I like our chances,’’ Barkley said.

Barkley also was asked how the 1984 class fares against the 2003 group, headed by LeBron James and Dwyane Wade.

“I like our chances,’’ Barkley said.

At least one member of the 2003 class might disagree. That would be Carmelo Anthony, who helped put himself closer to the category of James and Wade by leading Denver to the Western Conference final.

“We laugh and joke about it, that we’re the best class or one of the best classes,’’ Anthony said.

It seems the only solution is an all-time draft playoff. Take the top eight draft classes in NBA history, and match them against each other, with the winner crowned.

One concern, though, is how to best measure a draft class. How should superstar players be weighed alongside overall depth of the draft? And what about players selected in the late 1960s and early 1970s who played initially in the ABA?

Here are some ground rules. There are five players on the court at once, so the top five players from each draft class will provide the primary weight.

As for ABA players, Dan Issel dropped to the eighth round in the 1970 NBA draft because he already had committed to the ABA. Issel counts since he was coming directly from college.

On the other hand, Julius Erving was drafted No. 12 in 1972 after he had played one ABA season (Erving wasn’t eligible in 1971 due to being an underclassman). Sorry, Erving doesn’t count because he already had been an American professional.

One other rule. Players drafted more than once (such as Elgin Baylor in 1956 and 1958 and Sam Jones in 1956 and 1957 only count toward the last draft in which they were selected).

Here are the eight draft classes battling it out, with the top five players listed in the order selected:

1950

The class is headlined by four Hall of Famers and a guy who played in eight All-Star Games that nobody remembers. Only three other draft classes (1965, 1970 and 1984) can claim four or more Hall of Fame players.

Paul Arizin, Hall of Famer (territorial pick).

Bob Cousy, Hall of Famer.

Larry Foust, eight All-Star Games.

George Yardley, Hall of Famer.

Bill Sharman, Hall of Famer.

1962

The class has three Hall of Famers to its credit. And old-timers are working to get Chet Walker a ticket himself one day to Springfield, Mass.

Dave DeBusschere, Hall of Famer (territorial pick).

Jerry Lucas, Hall of Famer (territorial pick).

Zelmo Beaty, two-time NBA and three-time ABA All-Star.

John Havlicek, Hall of Famer.

Walker, seven-time All-Star.

1965

Four Hall of Famers head this class, although Bill Bradley barely counts since he’s enshrined primarily because of his college exploits. There’s also good depth, with Bob Love beating out Tom Van Arsdale, Dick Van Arsdale and Jerry Sloan for the fifth spot.

Bradley, Hall of Famer (territorial pick).

Gail Goodrich, Hall of Famer (territorial pick).

Rick Barry, Hall of Famer.

Billy Cunningham, Hall of Famer.

Love, three-time All-Star.

1970

This class holds the mark for most Hall of Famers with six. The forgotten one is Issel, plucked in the eighth round by Detroit. Other draftees were impressive, including Rudy Tomjanovich, Charlie Scott and Geoff Petrie, co-Rookie of the Year with Dave Cowens. Since we’re not leaving any Hall of Famers on the bench, six are listed here.

Bob Lanier, Hall of Famer.

Pete Maravich, Hall of Famer.

Cowens, Hall of Famer.

Calvin Murphy, Hall of Famer.

Tiny Archibald, Hall of Famer.

Issel, Hall of Famer.

1984

This group includes the greatest player ever in Jordan and two of the greatest ever at their positions in center Olajuwon and point guard Stockton. There’s not a clear-cut fifth guy to stand around in awe and watch the others, but Kevin Willis gets the nod over Otis Thorpe on seniority since he played 21 NBA seasons to a mere 17 for Thorpe.

Olajuwon, Hall of Famer.

Jordan, Hall of Famer.

Barkley, Hall of Famer.

Willis, one-time All-Star.

Stockton, Hall of Famer.

1985

While overshadowed by 1984, this class still produced a pretty nice encore. It includes three Hall of Famers and Chris Mullin, who eventually could be enshrined.

Patrick Ewing, Hall of Famer.

Mullin, five-time All-Star.

Detlef Schrempf, three-time All-Star.

Karl Malone, Hall of Famer.

Joe Dumars, Hall of Famer.

1996

Four from this class are certain to get into the Hall of Fame. For the fifth spot, there was ample competition in this very deep draft, with Jermaine O’Neal getting the nod over five other players to have made All-Star Games (Peja Stojakovic, Stephon Marbury, Shareef Abdur-Rahim, Antoine Walker and Zydrunas Ilgauskas).

Allen Iverson, 10-time All-Star, one MVP.

Ray Allen, nine-time All-Star.

Kobe Bryant, 11-time All-Star one MVP.

Steve Nash, six-time All-Star, two MVPs.

O’Neal, six-time All-Star.

2003

This group is just getting started. James has been named MVP and won a scoring title. Wade has a championship and a scoring crown. Anthony and Chris Bosh are full-fledged stars. For the fifth spot, David West nudged out Josh Howard since West pays more attention during the national anthem.

James, five-time All-Star, one MVP.

Anthony, two-time All-Star.

Bosh, four-time All-Star.

Wade, five-time All-Star.

West, two-time All-Star.




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Here’s a look at the all-time draft showdown:

QUARTERFINALS

1950 vs. 1996

Cousy vs. Nash. Is that not a point-guard matchup for the ages? But even though Yardley was the first NBA player ever to score 2,000 points in a season, the guys from the Studebaker generation don’t have enough offense. Winner: 1996.

1962 vs. 2003

There’s great team play from consummate pros DeBusschere, Lucas and Havlicek, players who were on nine of the 12 title teams between 1962 and 1973. But James’ gang has too much talent. Winner: 2003.

1965 vs. 1984

Barry and Jordan get into a shootout. But, in the end, the championship experience of Jordan and Olajuwon (eight titles between them) are too much. Winner: 1984.

1970 vs. 1985

With the 5-foot-9 Murphy and the 6-1 Archibald, the little guys aren’t to be denied. Malone is tough, but this time the “Mailman” doesn’t deliver. Winner: 1970.

SEMIFINALS

1970 vs. 1996

Iverson shows up late. Nevertheless, there’s just too much firepower from Iverson, owner of four scoring titles, and Bryant, who has two. Winner: 1996.

1984 vs. 2003

It’s Jordan vs. James. James will want to replay this battle of elite classes in a decade, but, for now, the class of 1984 is as dominant as Big Brother is in George Orwell’s novel. Winner: 1984.

FINALS

1984 vs. 1996

In the end, how can one pick against any team with Jordan on it? Well, any team besides the Washington Wizards of 2001-02 and 2002-03. The 1996 class has more depth, but it’s hard to top the star power of Jordan, Olajuwon, Barkley and Stockton, who combined for seven MVPs, 23 All-NBA first team selections, 45 All-Star Game selections and seven Olympic gold medals. Winner: 1984.

Speaking of Olympic golds, did we mention 1984 draftees combined to win 14 additional gold medals? That would be one each from Sam Perkins, Alvin Robertson, Vern Fleming, Leon Wood and Jeff Turner from the 1984 basketball games and nine from track legend Carl Lewis.

Yes, Lewis was drafted in the 10th round in 1984. But let’s not go overboard. Bruce Jenner was selected in the seventh round in 1977, but that doesn’t help that draft class
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i'd have to go with 96
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1984 hands down. Even without Jordan, having Hakeem, Barkley and Stockton puts them way over the edge.
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What about '83?

Ralph Sampson, Byron Scott, Dale Ellis, Derek Harper, Clyde Drexler, Jeff Malone, John Paxson, Doc Rivers, Manute Bol, Leo Rautins...
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You had to throw in Leo Rautins.

I see the 83 class of no real franchise players but guys that helped the 84 class be what they are/were.

To me the 84 class was special because you have arguably the greatest player of all time in MJ, the greatest C (yes I'll say it) in Hak, one of the top 5 best pg's in Stockton and one of the best rebounders ever in Chuck.

I just look at those guys and think about how big of an impact they had on the game and how really, once they hit their prime, how dominant they became. Hell, even Sam Perkins with his sweet stroke but never leaving his feet jumper, puts it over the edge.
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Actually, I only suggested the class of '83 just so I could throw in Rautins.

I agree '84 was pretty special.

Although it wasn't mentioned, I actually like '98 a lot.

Carter, Bibby, Jamison, Nowitzki, Peirce all in the top 10.
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Once all the careers of the '96s and the '03s are over, those draft classes will hold a lot more merit.

But as of this point in time it's '84 and it's not even close.
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im gona go with the 2003 class are most promissing...i dunt know i also think the 96 class are up their as well
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I have to say '84, '03. Those two drafts were insane. Especially the '03 one, there were lots of players that wee frenchise players and lots that help those guys out
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I would say 2003 will be one day.
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its between 1984, 1996, or 2003.. i would have to say 2003 at this point.. very deep
Bosh, Wade, Melo, King james added with Ford, Kaman, Kirk, david west, Barbosa, Josh Howard, Boris Diaw, Travis Outlaw etc..

another class that comes to mind is 1998.. VC, paul peirce, Dirk, Antawn Jamison
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I'd pick 03 class over 96.
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atm 1984. In 10 years, my guess is that 03 will top 1984 though.
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Best Draft Class definitely has to go to ’65. You don’t understand, I’ve been watching basketball for more than 50 years now. I’ve never seen a guy measure up to Rick Barry. He’s been the most exciting player for me to watch. Jordan is a close second though. I think it’s funny that guys now-a-days are too “manly” to shoot free throws underhand. Barry earned a record for most consecutive free throws…call me crazy, but that’s pretty masculine to me. I think Barry is going to play poker with his fans and other sports pros in the Bahamas soon. Has anyone else heard about this?

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