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SAS IN 4 6 20.69%
SAS IN 5 6 20.69%
SAS IN 6 10 34.48%
SAS IN 7 2 6.90%
OKC IN 4 1 3.45%
OKC IN 5 0 0%
OKC IN 6 2 6.90%
OKC IN 7 2 6.90%
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Old 05-28-2012, 05:15 AM   #181 (permalink)
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Old 05-28-2012, 05:34 AM   #182 (permalink)
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For the Spurs sake, I really hope Parker doesn't play for France this summer. Is he planning on it? Does anyone know? When Parker first signed his recent extension, quite a few people thought it was shit. Now it looks like one of the best contracts in the NBA. $12.5 mill for an all-nba PG. Fucking amazing. He's got a lot of mileage on his legs though, and speed is a big part of his game, so he should pull a Nash and stop playing in the summer to keep his level of play at an elite level into his 30s.

Same with Ginobs. The Spurs should ask him to sit out of the international shit. These guys might have a legit shot at winning 2 (or more) 'ships in the next 4 years if they stay healthy and rested.

The Spurs cap situation is actually pretty good. I wonder what amount Duncan will be seeking on his extension. He expires at the end of this season. He already has over $200 million in career earnings, so I wonder if he'll be willing to take a substantial paycut (he made $21 mill this year) in order to give the Spurs a bit of flexibility moving forward. And then Ginobs and Jackson expire at the end of next year, which clears almost $25 mill in salary. If Ginobs and Duncan re-sign at a discount, the Spurs could have some great flexibility to keep adding quality supporting players.

I'd love to see Duncan win 6 rings, just to see him tie Jordan and beat Shaq and Kobe.
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Old 05-28-2012, 09:37 AM   #183 (permalink)
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Manu Ginobili makes me want to go outside and play basketball at 1 AM in the dark after that amazing display of basketball artestry. If Bill Walton was announcing the game he would have referred to Ginobili as Mozart. Just an amazing performance by a hall of fame player.

Westbrook went back to last years form in taking multiple bad rushed shots both in the halfcourt and transition. Hopefully I dont have to say I told you so after the series is over because if he continues to do so this is only going 5 games.
Last year's form? I didn't see him shooting 30+ shots and singlehandedly killing OKC's chances. He was legitimately shut down at the start and adjusted. Yes he made bad decisions during the Spurs run, but he was hardly alone in that, and the real problem was defensively, where Harden and Perkins pooped out.

In any case there is no comparison to last year's form. And like I said earlier, if they keep having problems getting stops with their bigger lineup, it is not even going to go five games.
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Old 05-28-2012, 10:54 AM   #184 (permalink)
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Last year's form? I didn't see him shooting 30+ shots and singlehandedly killing OKC's chances. He was legitimately shut down at the start and adjusted. Yes he made bad decisions during the Spurs run, but he was hardly alone in that, and the real problem was defensively, where Harden and Perkins pooped out.

In any case there is no comparison to last year's form. And like I said earlier, if they keep having problems getting stops with their bigger lineup, it is not even going to go five games.
Westbrook did what I thought was a big possibility and that's get emotional and try to go one on one or make passes almost exclusively to Durant down the stretch. The Spurs are a calm and collected machine and no lead is safe when you play them...Westbrook has to keep his cool in the fourth and not forget the others on offense - besides Durant there are 3 others out there. One of the things that make the Spurs so good is that they play for best possible shot regardless of whose taking it. I'm not saying that Westbrook was the only reason but he is the key IMO.

I expect OKC to come back with more 4th quarter composure in the next game.
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Old 05-28-2012, 12:32 PM   #185 (permalink)
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Westbrook did what I thought was a big possibility and that's get emotional and try to go one on one or make passes almost exclusively to Durant down the stretch. The Spurs are a calm and collected machine and no lead is safe when you play them...Westbrook has to keep his cool in the fourth and not forget the others on offense - besides Durant there are 3 others out there. One of the things that make the Spurs so good is that they play for best possible shot regardless of whose taking it. I'm not saying that Westbrook was the only reason but he is the key IMO.

I expect OKC to come back with more 4th quarter composure in the next game.
I don't disagree. But Durant and Harden got sucked into turnovers and forgot about others as well. They don't have the best sort of offense for my tastes at all, and are just not going to be able to match what the Spurs can do. But they have a chance to make the most of what they can do when they are able to get stops and push the tempo. They did have the Spurs on their heels, until they could no longer get stops. Then the Spurs got OKC on their heels and OKC started to force stuff, but as a team they really don't have that much that they can rely on beyond attacking off the dribble and hitting jumpers. And the paint was taken away throughout the game. When Perkins got the ball he couldn't finish and was just sent to the line. The Spurs will give them that every fourth quarter.
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Old 05-28-2012, 01:20 PM   #187 (permalink)
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Last year's form? I didn't see him shooting 30+ shots and singlehandedly killing OKC's chances. He was legitimately shut down at the start and adjusted. Yes he made bad decisions during the Spurs run, but he was hardly alone in that, and the real problem was defensively, where Harden and Perkins pooped out.

In any case there is no comparison to last year's form. And like I said earlier, if they keep having problems getting stops with their bigger lineup, it is not even going to go five games.
He took a few really bad pullup shots and had a few key turnovers during very important points of the 4th. It disappoints me to see he's still continuing to take those kinds of shots at that point in the game after not setting up any offence.

I think OKC has to go with Ibaka instead of Perkins down the stretch. It's really their only option and likely a very good one. Perkins wasnt playing the pick and roll well at all in the 4th and was hampered by his 5th foul. Ibaka can protect the rim and him and KD are more active at the rim defensively together than KD and Perk. OKC cant continue to have a layup drill at the rim if theyre going to shut off the 3 pt line, they need Ibaka as the last line of defence.

Then again, they could always play both Ibaka and Perkins so long as SJax or Leonard is on the floor and put Ibaka on one of them, but it would cause them to have to make even more rotations to close out on shooters. So Ibaka at the 5 seems like the only logical conclusion.
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Yeah - I really thought Perkins was generally ineffective, even before the 5th foul. The 5 fouls all resulted from his ineffective play. I couldn't understand why Ibaka was used so sparingly. Fisher and Perkins seemed to be in there for their experience, and in the case of Fisher it worked pretty well. But overall they got away from their game as a team and the added experience didn't help as much as staying true to their identity might have.
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Old 05-28-2012, 02:19 PM   #189 (permalink)
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Why doesn't Durant's turnover where he dribbled into a double, out of a double, and then back into a triple get mentioned alongside Westbrook's miscues in the fourth?

The team is young and impatient, not just Westbrook.

And Durant would have had two other turnovers down the stretch if the refs didn't bail him out with free-throws.
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Why doesn't Durant's turnover where he dribbled into a double, out of a double, and then back into a triple get mentioned alongside Westbrook's miscues in the fourth?

The team is young and impatient, not just Westbrook.

And Durant would have had two other turnovers down the stretch if the refs didn't bail him out with free-throws.
I don't think anyone is missing those points - the team is young and impatient and emotional but it's Westbrook that runs the offense and needs to settle down and get everyone else settled. This OKC team is going to go where Russel goes IMO so to me that's why I focused there.

But you're right, and so is LX, all 3 of Westbrook, Durant and Harden went away from their team identity and tried to force their will individually. That's exactly what the Spurs wanted and in game 1 OKC didn't disappoint. Have to give credit though where credit is do, OKC didn't just beat themselves, the Spurs game planned well.
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Old 05-28-2012, 03:08 PM   #191 (permalink)
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Stop trying to stir the pot ya curly haired freak lol.... you know that's anything but the truth.

Collins has been one of the best teachers of the game for years. Turned around the Bulls in the 80s.... turned around the Wizards a few years ago... and now brought the Sixers to within a game of the EC finals when no one expected them to do anything.
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Old 05-29-2012, 02:29 AM   #193 (permalink)
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Old 05-29-2012, 08:32 AM   #194 (permalink)
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Old 05-29-2012, 06:50 PM   #196 (permalink)
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Stop trying to stir the pot ya curly haired freak lol.... you know that's anything but the truth.

Collins has been one of the best teachers of the game for years. Turned around the Bulls in the 80s.... turned around the Wizards a few years ago... and now brought the Sixers to within a game of the EC finals when no one expected them to do anything.
Um no...I hate him.
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Um no...I hate him.
Ummm... why?

Some people hate Larry Brown too.... doesn't mean he isn't a hell of a coach.
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Old 05-29-2012, 10:18 PM   #200 (permalink)
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