Warriors to sign Deandre Jordan to a 40Mil offer sheet - Clippers match offer

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Old 12-11-2011, 12:24 AM   #1 (permalink)
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The Warriors will sign DeAndre Jordan to a four-year, $40 million offer sheet, according to multiple sources.

Because Jordan is a restricted free agent, the Clippers will have three days to match the offer.

Jordan reportedly has already received an offer from the Clippers for $40 million, but it is for five years. Jordan's annual average is $2 million higher under Golden State's offer.

The Warriors will not need to amnesty Andris Biedrins to acquire Jordan.
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Old 12-11-2011, 12:36 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 12-11-2011, 12:42 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I think the Clippers were going to give him $8M a year. So yes, they will match.
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Old 12-11-2011, 12:49 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Wow he's good but I don't know if he's worth that much.
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HOLY FUCK.... talk about over-paid.
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Old 12-11-2011, 01:33 AM   #6 (permalink)
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He's 6'11", 265lbs, a legit C and is only 24 years old.

$10M could very well be a deal for him when it's all said and done.

Were you guys expecting him to sign for the MLE or something?
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he has absolutely no offensive game, beyond finishing alley-oops. he can't shoot or even hit a layup. since when are decent one-dimensional guys worth $10 mil?


oh yeah, bargnani.......
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he has absolutely no offensive game, beyond finishing alley-oops. he can't shoot or even hit a layup. since when are decent one-dimensional guys worth $10 mil?


oh yeah, bargnani.......
Lol its funny you say that because when I saw the deal I instantly thought Bargnani.
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he has absolutely no offensive game, beyond finishing alley-oops. he can't shoot or even hit a layup. since when are decent one-dimensional guys worth $10 mil?


oh yeah, bargnani.......
LOL... yep. Being a 7-footer (or close to it) has it's advantages.

Jordan doesn't need an offensive game though (or at least I hope that's not why GS is trying to get him).

He just needs to rebound the ball, play D and block shots.
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LOL... yep. Being a 7-footer (or close to it) has it's advantages.

Jordan doesn't need an offensive game though (or at least I hope that's not why GS is trying to get him).

He just needs to rebound the ball, play D and block shots.
Well, Kaman is expiring and tradeable and if Jordan really stinks just amnesty him. Win win.
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It's funny, for weeks people have gone on about how he sucks, or at least doesn't do much... Yet everyone says the Clippers would match any offer for him (Or just about anything). So why would they match an offer that grossly overpays him if hes that bad...

Personally I'd love to of had him here for 8-10 mill a year, you never know what this guy could turn out to be on the defensive side, I see him being a monster in years to come.
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It's funny, for weeks people have gone on about how he sucks, or at least doesn't do much... Yet everyone says the Clippers would match any offer for him (Or just about anything). So why would they match an offer that grossly overpays him if hes that bad...

Personally I'd love to of had him here for 8-10 mill a year, you never know what this guy could turn out to be on the defensive side, I see him being a monster in years to come.
I'm with you.

I think that people are being a little crazy considering this is only going to be his 4th year in the league and he's never really had the starting job full-time.

He's def. got room to improve and he has the tools to be a force on the defensive end.
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If Bargnani gets 10 Mil a year, then DeAndre Jordan definitely deserves AT LEAST that much. Anyone saying he is getting overpaid will eat their words within a few years.
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It's funny, for weeks people have gone on about how he sucks, or at least doesn't do much... Yet everyone says the Clippers would match any offer for him (Or just about anything). So why would they match an offer that grossly overpays him if hes that bad...
Well, I'm not one of the people who was totally trashing him, so I can't say for certain what those users are thinking. However, those seemingly contradictory viewpoints are reconcilable. A lot of people know that Griffin and Jordan are best buddies, and that re-signing Jordan will really help to make sure Griffin stays put. So, for example, a person might think Jordan is only worth worth 5-6 million but still recognize the strategic importance to retaining Jordan.
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Well, I'm not one of the people who was totally trashing him, so I can't say for certain what those users are thinking. However, those seemingly contradictory viewpoints are reconcilable. A lot of people know that Griffin and Jordan are best buddies, and that re-signing Jordan will really help to make sure Griffin stays put. So, for example, a person might think Jordan is only worth worth 5-6 million but still recognize the strategic importance to retaining Jordan.
I suppose, but the guy has DPOY potential no question, I'd say it's worth the 10 to keep him around and find out.
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I suppose, but the guy has DPOY potential no question, I'd say it's worth the 10 to keep him around and find out.
Maybe. Ben Wallace was incredibly valuable in the right system, and a lot of the criticisms levied against DeAndre were once applicable to Ben. On the other hand, JacksonFilth's cautionary reminder about Yogi Stewart might also be worth considering.

To be honest, on this one, I don't have really strong feelings, either way. Especially since a bunch of guys are going to get overpaid this offseason due to the new minimum salary cap threshold in the CBA. There is money that has to be spent, and not that many sexy free agents. Tyson Chandler is not worth $14.5 million. That's just the beginning. "Overpaid" will need to be placed in the context of this particular offseason.
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Maybe. Ben Wallace was incredibly valuable in the right system, and a lot of the criticisms levied against DeAndre were once applicable to Ben. On the other hand, JacksonFilth's cautionary reminder about Yogi Stewart might also be worth considering.

To be honest, on this one, I don't have really strong feelings, either way. Especially since a bunch of guys are going to get overpaid this offseason due to the new minimum salary cap threshold in the CBA. There is money that has to be spent, and not that many sexy free agents. Tyson Chandler is not worth $14.5 million. That's just the beginning. "Overpaid" will need to be placed in the context of this particular offseason.
If chandler was just a bit younger I'd say he is for sure, but I agree with what you're saying as well.
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Maybe. Ben Wallace was incredibly valuable in the right system, and a lot of the criticisms levied against DeAndre were once applicable to Ben. On the other hand, JacksonFilth's cautionary reminder about Yogi Stewart might also be worth considering.

To be honest, on this one, I don't have really strong feelings, either way. Especially since a bunch of guys are going to get overpaid this offseason due to the new minimum salary cap threshold in the CBA. There is money that has to be spent, and not that many sexy free agents. Tyson Chandler is not worth $14.5 million. That's just the beginning. "Overpaid" will need to be placed in the context of this particular offseason.
not to nitpick but consider this

many on this board say that Bargnani is not overpaid at 10 million for what he gives. if Bargnani is not overpaid at 10 million, who's to say chandler isn't worth 14.5 million? i hope not the same people because chandler is definitely, without a doubt, worth AT LEAST 4.5 more/year than bargnani.
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Just to throw it out there for fun, DeAndre just got signed to 6 years 15.5 million in my 2k12 season... lol wayyyyy less than this amount haha.
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not to nitpick but consider this
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many on this board say that Bargnani is not overpaid at 10 million for what he gives.
Aside from players on rookie contracts, there are only a couple of guys in the league, if any, who score 20 ppg and make under $10 mill. I think that's their justification, or at least a big part of it. It's rare to get a 20 PPG scorer for that price. In general, it's hard to even get a decent second option that cheap. Several of the top 6th men in the league are even paid more than $10 mill.

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if Bargnani is not overpaid at 10 million, who's to say chandler isn't worth 14.5 million? i hope not the same people because chandler is definitely, without a doubt, worth AT LEAST 4.5 more/year than bargnani.
I would not say "without a doubt". Assuming I had the right personel to surround Chandler, I would rather have Tyson than Bargnani. But both have shortcomings. Chandler plays defense well, but his offense is very limited. He is the other side of the coin. Chandler has a lot of value, especially in terms of intangibles. But those intangibles only take effect if he is healthy and playing along side certain players. Chandler had little to no impact while in Charlotte. He is not an all-star who is awesome anywhere. He will be most valuable under certain conditions.

Also, Chandler has missed over 70 games during the last 3 seasons. His health is a real concern. Last year, Dallas managed to keep Chandler healthy because they played him fewer than 30 MPG. How is his body going to hold up for the next 3 years if he has to play 35 MPG (or more)? Big question mark there.

$14.5 million is a huge cap hit if the player goes down and only plays half the year. It's quite risky. I think Bill Simmons could be right; I anticipate Nene could also receive a ridiculous contract full of risk for the team that signs him.
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