Is Vince Carter Hall of Fame bound?

Dr. J. Naismith · 01-25-2008, 10:00 AM

We had this discussion a couple years ago I believe, but now with a new site and new members I'm curious to know people's opinions on whether Vince's career to date is enough to get him to Springfield one day?

Thoughts?

**fancylad** · 01-25-2008, 10:00 AM

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**fancylad** · 01-25-2008, 10:01 AM

sorry, doc.

that's my way of saying HELL NO!

Dr. J. Naismith · 01-25-2008, 10:03 AM

Where's Joey McFly? I bet he would make this an interesting discussion.

**Acie** · 01-25-2008, 10:10 AM

I'm on the fence. Personal feelings aside, he definitely electrified the league like hadn't been done in a long time, however when all is said in done will his numbers and his legacy be enough to get him in? Probably not...

**Claudius** · 01-25-2008, 10:17 AM

He hasn't done NEARLY enough in his career to get him into the hall of fame. Considering the era he's playing in where there's a glut of VERY good players he'll be long forgotten. That's actually somewhat sad.

**Benzo** · 01-25-2008, 10:23 AM

Nah...I don't think soo...

It's not the NHL HOF where I think I'm getting in next year.

**Ball Don't Lie** · 01-25-2008, 12:57 PM

The only thing positive about him possibly making the hall of fame would be the TNT shows before it where Chuck would absolutely destroy him and the NBA for letting him into a club where he does not belong. No player that underachieves as long as he did should be allowed in the HOF. He had a couple great years and that's it, the GREAT ones sustain their production and consistantly make their teams that much better, and he just doesnt fit the bill. He doesnt even look like he wants to play half the games.

Krazy Ivan · 01-25-2008, 12:59 PM

**fancylad** · 01-25-2008, 01:16 PM

it just occured to me that the only way Vincent Lamar Carter will end up in the Hall of Fame is if he pays the admission fee.

**INSIDER** · 01-25-2008, 02:10 PM

i'm trying to look at this topic as an NBA fan, and not a toronto fan that feels scorned...

and when i do, i think the answer is still yet to be determined.
its neither no or yes at this point in time.

i try to look at his good rather than his bad...
he did some pretty amazing things while he was on top of his game.
he electrified the league for 3 seasons...
he "put toronto on the map"... at least he and some idiot american's think so.
he has some of the best dunks ever... his hilights will always be shown.
he's probably one of the best dunkers in NBA history.

unfortunately for him, his bad points will bring him down hard.
he is a wimp..
he plays with zero passion.
he is not a leader...
he hasnt gotten anywhere in the playoffs.
he gets no respect from older NBA players and current players.
he's a terrible role model... no heart, no drive...
frankly, other than his first few seasons of being "half man half amazing", he's been just a regular player... nothing special whatsoever.

if he is ever going to be a HOF'er, he needs to put together some impressive seasons or win a championship before his career is over.
otherwise he'll just be seen as a great dunker who could have been great, but didnt play to his ability.

truthfully though, i honestly think that if he stayed with TO, and was injury-free (like with NJ), he'd be a HOF'er - guarenteed.

JattDogg · 01-26-2008, 11:36 PM

I'd say no, but if he ever does, it might be 40 years from now when he is 70+ and they do it for like honorary thing lol.

Sick, Wicked and Nasty! · 02-01-2008, 09:03 AM

This is a good time to mention that Winessa didn't make the all star team!

**INSIDER** · 02-01-2008, 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sick, Wicked and Nasty!

This is a good time to mention that Winessa didn't make the all star team!

if Jose didnt make it, at least VC didnt either...so i'm not that upset.
i wonder how he feels... he's been there his whole career... like 8 years in a row, and now he isnt going! hahahahahahaa....
he's so emotional, i bet this one stings.

cry vince! cry!!!!

Sick, Wicked and Nasty! · 02-01-2008, 09:24 AM

He's probably relieved he doesn't have to make it look like he's any good infront of all the fans this year..he can just sit at home and say 'phew'

maltmonger · 02-01-2008, 09:42 AM

I think he had a chance at one point but I'd be very surprised by now if it actually happened. However, the guy is only 30 so his career is likely far from over and the possibility remains that some internal fire gets lit and he re-emerges as a superstar.

Of course, there is also a possibiity that an uncontrollably horny Elisha Cuthbert shows up at my door at proceeds to live out at letter to Penthouse with me.

I like my odds better than VC's.

**Acie** · 02-01-2008, 09:51 AM

I usually cringe with some of the stuff Leo says, but last night he tore Vince a new one and said the big reason Kidd wants out is becuase playing with a guy who is so talented and yet so unmotivated, lazy and soft is eating him alive.

**INSIDER** · 02-01-2008, 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ACIEEARL40

I usually cringe with some of the stuff Leo says, but last night he tore Vince a new one and said the big reason Kidd wants out is becuase playing with a guy who is so talented and yet so unmotivated, lazy and soft is eating him alive.

theres nothing more that KILLS a veteran inside more than playing with heartless fakes!!!!
and thats VC; a heartless fake!
i dont blame kidd, the guy has earned alot of respect over his career, and the way VC is; its like he's disrespecting him.

maltmonger · 02-01-2008, 12:09 PM

Kidd's a whiny bitch - always looking for an out when things get tough instead of taking it upon himself to do something about it. If he really has that big a problem with VC then he should confront VC and demand a better showing. Kidd and Wince deserve each other.

Sick, Wicked and Nasty! · 02-01-2008, 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maltmonger

Kidd's a whiny bitch - always looking for an out when things get tough instead of taking it upon himself to do something about it. If he really has that big a problem with VC then he should confront VC and demand a better showing. Kidd and Wince deserve each other.

You dont' think Kidd's tried to motivate Wince in the past few years? He has called him out several times... he's sick of him like we are now and can you blame him really?

01-25-2008, 10:00 AM	#1 (permalink)
Dr. J. Naismith convinced that Raptors fans are only happy when they're unhappy. Retired Administrator Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Almonte Posts: 10,250 Representing:	Is Vince Carter Hall of Fame bound? We had this discussion a couple years ago I believe, but now with a new site and new members I'm curious to know people's opinions on whether Vince's career to date is enough to get him to Springfield one day? Thoughts?

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Acie landry fields forever Administrator Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Living in a van down by the river Posts: 21,341 Representing:	I'm on the fence. Personal feelings aside, he definitely electrified the league like hadn't been done in a long time, however when all is said in done will his numbers and his legacy be enough to get him in? Probably not... Last edited by Acie; 01-25-2008 at 10:15 AM.

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fancylad blah! nosce te ipsum Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: east side. Posts: 14,441 Representing:	sorry, doc. that's my way of saying HELL NO!

01-25-2008, 10:03 AM	#4 (permalink)
Dr. J. Naismith convinced that Raptors fans are only happy when they're unhappy. Retired Administrator Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Almonte Posts: 10,250 Representing:	Where's Joey McFly? I bet he would make this an interesting discussion.

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Claudius contemplating The Killing Joke Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Burkina Faso, Disputed Zone Posts: 9,945 Representing:	He hasn't done NEARLY enough in his career to get him into the hall of fame. Considering the era he's playing in where there's a glut of VERY good players he'll be long forgotten. That's actually somewhat sad.

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Benzo hibernating Retired Administrator Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 7,287 Representing:	Nah...I don't think soo... It's not the NHL HOF where I think I'm getting in next year.

01-25-2008, 12:57 PM	#8 (permalink)
Ball Don't Lie praying Drummond doesnt haunt us forever. Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 9,988 Representing:	The only thing positive about him possibly making the hall of fame would be the TNT shows before it where Chuck would absolutely destroy him and the NBA for letting him into a club where he does not belong. No player that underachieves as long as he did should be allowed in the HOF. He had a couple great years and that's it, the GREAT ones sustain their production and consistantly make their teams that much better, and he just doesnt fit the bill. He doesnt even look like he wants to play half the games.

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Krazy Ivan is pounding the rock! Byte Mii, I have Wii Fit! Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,967 Representing:	No

01-25-2008, 01:16 PM	#10 (permalink)
fancylad blah! nosce te ipsum Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: east side. Posts: 14,441 Representing:	it just occured to me that the only way Vincent Lamar Carter will end up in the Hall of Fame is if he pays the admission fee.

01-25-2008, 02:10 PM	#11 (permalink)
INSIDER BOOBS never too old. Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: richmond hill Posts: 11,372 Representing:	i'm trying to look at this topic as an NBA fan, and not a toronto fan that feels scorned... and when i do, i think the answer is still yet to be determined. its neither no or yes at this point in time. i try to look at his good rather than his bad... he did some pretty amazing things while he was on top of his game. he electrified the league for 3 seasons... he "put toronto on the map"... at least he and some idiot american's think so. he has some of the best dunks ever... his hilights will always be shown. he's probably one of the best dunkers in NBA history. unfortunately for him, his bad points will bring him down hard. he is a wimp.. he plays with zero passion. he is not a leader... he hasnt gotten anywhere in the playoffs. he gets no respect from older NBA players and current players. he's a terrible role model... no heart, no drive... frankly, other than his first few seasons of being "half man half amazing", he's been just a regular player... nothing special whatsoever. if he is ever going to be a HOF'er, he needs to put together some impressive seasons or win a championship before his career is over. otherwise he'll just be seen as a great dunker who could have been great, but didnt play to his ability. truthfully though, i honestly think that if he stayed with TO, and was injury-free (like with NJ), he'd be a HOF'er - guarenteed.

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JattDogg laughing at Marbury is bitch slappin the raps Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 589 Representing:	I'd say no, but if he ever does, it might be 40 years from now when he is 70+ and they do it for like honorary thing lol.

02-01-2008, 09:03 AM	#13 (permalink)
Sick, Wicked and Nasty! adoring his baby girl. Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Canada eh? Posts: 3,288 Representing:	This is a good time to mention that Winessa didn't make the all star team!

02-01-2008, 09:24 AM	#15 (permalink)
Sick, Wicked and Nasty! adoring his baby girl. Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Canada eh? Posts: 3,288 Representing:	He's probably relieved he doesn't have to make it look like he's any good infront of all the fans this year..he can just sit at home and say 'phew'

02-01-2008, 09:42 AM	#16 (permalink)
maltmonger a Die Hard die hard. pro beer Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Bizzaro world. Posts: 363 Representing:	I think he had a chance at one point but I'd be very surprised by now if it actually happened. However, the guy is only 30 so his career is likely far from over and the possibility remains that some internal fire gets lit and he re-emerges as a superstar. Of course, there is also a possibiity that an uncontrollably horny Elisha Cuthbert shows up at my door at proceeds to live out at letter to Penthouse with me. I like my odds better than VC's.

02-01-2008, 09:51 AM	#17 (permalink)
Acie landry fields forever Administrator Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Living in a van down by the river Posts: 21,341 Representing:	I usually cringe with some of the stuff Leo says, but last night he tore Vince a new one and said the big reason Kidd wants out is becuase playing with a guy who is so talented and yet so unmotivated, lazy and soft is eating him alive.

02-01-2008, 12:09 PM	#19 (permalink)
maltmonger a Die Hard die hard. pro beer Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Bizzaro world. Posts: 363 Representing:	Kidd's a whiny bitch - always looking for an out when things get tough instead of taking it upon himself to do something about it. If he really has that big a problem with VC then he should confront VC and demand a better showing. Kidd and Wince deserve each other.