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Acie 02-16-2009 06:19 PM

Trade buzz as deadline approaches

One source close to the situation maintains that the Suns have a standing offer from the Bulls for Stoudemire that would definitely deliver blossoming forward Tyrus Thomas and Drew Gooden's $7.2 million expiring contract. The Suns like those two pieces. A lot.

The conspiracy theorists among Joe Dumars' front-office peers around the league will inevitably surmise that the Pistons might need the extra roster spot because they're closing in on some sort of Stoudemire deal. The combination of Rasheed Wallace's expiring contract and young forward Amir Johnson would appear to be Detroit's best offer -- and thus not quite in Chicago's class -- but there are a couple well-connected league insiders who believe that Dumars still has hope of winning the Amare Sweepstakes.


Sources say Oklahoma City is going after New Orleans center Tyson Chandler, with the Hornets known to be seriously interested in slicing payroll and with the Thunder capable of offering the Hornets two replacement big men with expiring contracts (Joe Smith and Chris Wilcox) as well as one of its five first-round picks in the next two drafts.


The Blazers are involved in numerous discussions with several teams, so it's difficult to pinpoint the deal they're chasing hardest, but the latest in circulation could furnish Portland with a new small forward and a new point guard: Jefferson and University of Oregon-ex Luke Ridnour in exchange for Travis Outlaw, Sergio Rodriguez and Raef LaFrentz's expiring contract.

Acie 02-16-2009 06:22 PM


The Spurs indeed have some interest in Vinsanity and have weighed the feasibility of lodging a bid. But, given that they're not breaking up their big three, they'd almost certainly have to trade Roger Mason, Bruce Bowen, Fabricio Oberto and at least one other regular (such as Kurt Thomas or Michael Finley) to make it happen. They'd also have to believe that Carter is an over-the-top piece to take the highly un-Spurs-like step of shaking up their roster so forcefully ... and doing so in-season.

There is reason to believe that the Spurs don't believe Carter meets that prerequisite, judging by Tim Duncan's comments during All-Star Weekend.

"No offense to Vince; obviously he's an excellent player," Duncan said. "We'd love to have him. But to give up most of our team to add one guy, I don't think that's the way you want to go."

And ...

"It's a long season and we have a lot of guys who have been here a long time and understand the way we want to play," Duncan said. "Just to insert one new piece and try to teach him in half a season the way we want to play isn't the way that we work."

San Antonio's bigger problem here, even if management thinks the idea is better than Duncan makes it sound, is actually the economics. Carter is scheduled to earn $17.5 million in the 2010-11 season, with $4 million of his $18.3 million guaranteed in 2011-12. Those are huge numbers for the small-market Spurs to swallow.


There are a couple GMs out there who believe that the Trail Blazers will enter (or have entered) the Vince bidding. Dallas, by contrast, continues to say that it won't.

The Nets would want Josh Howard in such a deal and the Mavs, according to club sources, have no intention of making Howard available for a Carter swap.

Dallas insists that it's interested in Carter only if the most valuable trade chip it surrenders is Jerry Stackhouse's virtual expiring contract (which has only $2 million guaranteed in 2009-10). As covered in Thursday night's Daily Dime, one Mavs source went so far as to claim that the Nets would have to include rookie center Brook Lopez to change that stance, which obviously isn't happening.

The Mavs believe that the recent arrival of Darrell Armstrong as an assistant coach -- after Armstrong's influence was badly missed in the locker room in the final, fateful days of Avery Johnson's run as Mavs coach -- gives Howard a confidante on the staff who can help keep him engaged after a rough year-plus for the former All-Star.

The swingman Dallas has actually been chasing, sources say, is Sacramento's Salmons, but the Kings want the Mavs to take back Beno Udrih as well since they don't have a first-round pick to sweeten the deal. But Udrih won't be Dallas-bound with three years and nearly $20 million left on his contract after this season.


Torontosaurus 02-16-2009 07:13 PM

Thanks for the heads-up Acie :yeah:

insight_tor 02-16-2009 08:07 PM

Duncan writes off Carter ... LOL. Of course they won't give up their role players for a primadona with skills but no heart. And this comes from someone who actually wins championships. :yeah:

Acie 02-16-2009 10:56 PM


Los Angeles Clippers: One of the league's worst teams has three expensive big men -- Zach Randolph, Chris Kaman and Camby -- who make a combined $34 million and can't play at the same time. The center most wanted by contending teams is Camby (due $8.7 million next season), who could look intimidating in a Cavaliers uniform in exchange for the expiring $13.8 million contract of Wally Szczerbiak. To this point, however, the Clippers have refused to put him on the market.

A more likely target is Kaman, who has been sidelined since late November with plantar fasciitis in his left foot. Will the Clippers unload Kaman's contract for an expiring deal? That's not the question. The real issue is whether they can find a buyer willing to take on the burden of Kaman's deal, which has $34 million over three years remaining after this season.


Portland Trail Blazers: They have assets in the expiring $12.7 million salary of Raef LaFrentz, young, developing players like Travis Outlaw and Jerryd Bayless on cheap contracts, and draft picks they can live without. Do they package LaFrentz's contract now, or do they wait until the summer when his departure will result in less than $10 million of cap space?

They've been investigating all kinds of trades. Word emerged Sunday that they were showing interest in the 76ers' Andre Miller to provide leadership at point guard going into the playoffs. Miller turns 33 next month and will be a free agent this summer.


Gurk 02-16-2009 10:59 PM

Thanks Acie!! You are the man:yeah::dancing:

Acie 02-16-2009 11:03 PM

You already won MOM.

No need to suck up now Gurk. ;)

Acie 02-16-2009 11:09 PM


There were indications Sunday that a trade involving swingman John Salmons is becoming increasingly likely, with Portland and Oklahoma City believed to be the leaders in a group of as many as five interested teams. The Trail Blazers' offer would involve forward Channing Frye's expiring contract ($3.2 million), and the Thunder's offer would involve forward Joe Smith's expiring deal ($4.8 million). According to numerous league sources, Dallas is also in the mix.

But while those trades could yield future draft picks, they would be done mostly to rid the Kings of Salmons' contract ($5.1 million this season and $5.4 million next season with a player option worth $5.8 million for the 2010-11 season).

That's also the case in the scenarios regarding Brad Miller. The veteran center has drawn little interest to this point, but he may become more intriguing by the day to teams that fall short in attempts to land more prominent big men such as Amare Stoudemire of Phoenix or Chris Kaman or Marcus Camby of the Los Angeles Clippers.

New York, according to sources, is in play for Miller with an offer involving forward Malik Rose's expiring contract ($7.6 million).

Ball Don't Lie 02-16-2009 11:22 PM

Burden of Kamans deal? Hes one of the best centers in the league and is only sitting for a large amount of time because the Clippers season is already done. A ton of teams would take him if the price is right.

And why would Portland want Miller? They need a PG who can space the floor. Andres a very good veteran PG but youre not going to be a contender with a PG who cant shoot open shots. Hinrich would be an absolute perfect pickup.

Latest rumor on RGM about POR is them being close to getting Ridnour and Jefferson, thatd certainly be a steal for them, solidifying FOUR starting positions with young major contributors.

Acie 02-16-2009 11:58 PM


Originally Posted by thriller92 (Post 143990)

Latest rumor on RGM about POR is them being close to getting Ridnour and Jefferson, thatd certainly be a steal for them, solidifying FOUR starting positions with young major contributors.

It's in my first post. ;)

Best deal for Portland by far.

Acie 02-17-2009 02:05 PM


The Heat are prowling for a point guard. The two names I've heard the most are Raymond Felton and Kyle Lowry. The Heat are offering Daequan Cook, according to a source.

The hottest name at the trade deadline? A guy who hasn't played a game this season: Raef LaFrentz of the Portland Trail Blazers.

"If you asked owners in the league who they'd rather have right now, LaFrentz or Stoudemire, I think more than half of them would prefer LaFrentz," one executive told me. "That's how screwed up this thing has been. I guarantee you [Blazers GM] Kevin Pritchard has gotten better offers for LaFrentz than the Suns have gotten for Stoudemire."

That might have been confirmed Monday when the Suns' interest in trading Stoudemire cooled dramatically. Some of that has to do with the hope that new coach Alvin Gentry will inject some life into the listless Suns. But much of it has to do with the fact that the Suns haven't gotten a great offer for Stoudemire.

Meanwhile, sources confirm that the Blazers have been getting a steady flow of offers for LaFrentz, including two significant new ones Monday.

The focus for the Blazers right now appears to be at the small forward position. It appears that three players -- Gerald Wallace, Caron Butler and Richard Jefferson -- are on Pritchard's radar screen. A fourth one, Mike Miller, is also a favorite of the Blazers, but the Wolves have been reluctant to include him in a deal.

Sources say the Blazers have intensified their focus on Wallace. He's young, athletic and physical, and he doesn't need to score to be an impact player. He has four years and $38 million left on his contract, which is a lot, but given his age and production the past few years, it's not unreasonable. The problem for the Blazers is that the Bobcats want Portland to take back Nazr Mohammed as part of the deal. That could be a deal-breaker for Pritchard.

Butler might be the best player of the group when he's healthy. He was an All-Star last year and is excellent in the mid-range game. He too has a reasonable contract, with just two years and $21 million left on his deal. But it's unclear what the Wizards would want in return and whether they'll ultimately opt to keep Butler and reevaluate the team when Gilbert Arenas returns. If the Wizards are to make such a deal, certainly they'll want the Blazers to take back Etan Thomas' contract, and they'll likely also demand one or two young players from the Blazers. That price might be too high for Portland.

Jefferson is the most available. The Bucks need to clear his salary from their cap if they're going to re-sign their two restricted free agents this summer: Charlie Villanueva and Ramon Sessions. Sources say there have been conversations that have included both Jefferson and Milwaukee point guard Luke Ridnour, though the talk has quieted down. As a proven scorer and defender who's played in the NBA Finals, Jefferson has some appeal for the Blazers.

One wild card for the Blazers is Vince Carter. His contract is the most expensive of the group, but Carter has been fantastic this season and would give the Blazers the biggest bang of anyone out there. It appears unlikely the Blazers will go that direction, but New Jersey would certainly listen if Portland wanted to do a deal.

Speaking of Carter, well-placed league sources say there is a good chance Carter is moved before the trade deadline. San Antonio, Dallas and Cleveland have all been mentioned as possible destinations, but sources say that the emerging dark horse is Houston.

A trade of Carter and Trenton Hassell for Tracy McGrady would achieve two goals for New Jersey: It would get the Nets another $15 million further under the cap in 2010, and it would allow them to remain competitive in the interim.

It appears that the oft-injured McGrady has worn out his welcome in Houston, so it's hard to see why the Rockets wouldn't make that deal.

Ball Don't Lie 02-17-2009 02:10 PM


The Heat are prowling for a point guard. The two names I've heard the most are Raymond Felton and Kyle Lowry. The Heat are offering Daequan Cook, according to a source.
I dont get that one. Chalmers has played very well this year and is a great fit beside Wade on both sides of the ball. Getting one of those 2 makes no sense unless theyre being given up for really cheap.

If HOU can get VC for Tmac itd be a huge steal for them. Not only does VC fit better personnel wise, hes a much better play maker and at this point and a much better player really. Yao will get the ball more consistantly and their lineup will be more balanced, and theyll be that much more dangerous of a team with a more healthy 2.

Gurk 02-17-2009 04:16 PM


Originally Posted by Acie (Post 143973)
You already won MOM.

No need to suck up now Gurk. ;)

One time is not enough

MangoKidHoops 02-17-2009 04:47 PM


The Nets have countered with a proposal that would send Carter and Josh Boone to the Nets for a combination of Ron Artest, Shane Battier, Luther Head and Carl Landry.

Sources: Nets, Rockets talk trade


griffthecat 02-17-2009 05:19 PM

VC to the Rockets for McGrady???
Sources: New Jersey Nets, Houston Rockets discuss Vince Carter trade - ESPN


Ugo Ferst 02-17-2009 05:22 PM

is the "huh" for why this is in the raptors section? :P

'trane 02-17-2009 05:26 PM

I merged these two since the discussion is already going on here.

bjjs 02-17-2009 05:27 PM

1. Shaq is going back to the Lakers.
2. Chris Sheridan is a lizard.

'trane 02-17-2009 07:05 PM


Originally Posted by griffthecat (Post 144367)

anyone think artest would throttle vince right there on the court if he starts dogging it?

Dann38 02-17-2009 07:49 PM


Originally Posted by 'trane (Post 144396)
anyone think artest would throttle vince right there on the court if he starts dogging it?

I'd buy a ticket to watch that, but he hasn't throttled T-Mac for the same thing yet.


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