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Old 02-18-2012, 12:41 AM   #881 (permalink)
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Absolutely. I think what you're saying is an excuse. If you want to focus on last few games, that's fine and it might even make a point but saying that he only played garbage minutes and he sucked during that time is just an excuse. (Besides if you don't get starter minutes the best time to convince your coach is those minutes, since they're the only ones you get and as a professional you should do your best regardless.)

Anyway, in your previous post you already said you will support this guy no matter what, so I won't engage in irrational discussions with you.
i do want to focus on his last few games because those are the only ones that matter and should be the only ones that matter but ur the one bring up stats. theres a minimum amount of games you need to play to actually qualify. i don't know the exact number, but theres a minimum and he certainly hasn't played enough.

also, i don't know how you interpret it but supporting a guy means you root for him and hope he does well. how that means i'm irrational i have no idea.
anyways, you called him out being overrated to begin with. i don't know anyone calling him an all star anywhere. overhype? i agree, but not overrated.
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Old 02-18-2012, 01:04 AM   #882 (permalink)
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i do want to focus on his last few games because those are the only ones that matter and should be the only ones that matter but ur the one bring up stats. theres a minimum amount of games you need to play to actually qualify. i don't know the exact number, but theres a minimum and he certainly hasn't played enough.
I see, so you say his stats might not have been taken into account yet, because he might not have met the minimum requirements. But that's not the case as he was in the 80s in one of the categories, I don't remember which one. So, his stats are in.

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also, i don't know how you interpret it but supporting a guy means you root for him and hope he does well. how that means i'm irrational i have no idea.
anyways, you called him out being overrated to begin with. i don't know anyone calling him an all star anywhere. overhype? i agree, but not overrated.
You said in your previous post: "he's a good person that also happens to be pretty good at basketball and i'ma continue to support him through the good games and bad games."

You supporting him because he is a good person has nothing to do with basketball and I think your judgement is clouded for that reason. I may be wrong but the two are generally proportionally related. The more one loves someone the less objective one can be.

I guess I'm using the term overrated incorrectly since now two of you claim the same thing: it is possible that someone is overhyped but not overrated. In my view, someone is overrated because they are overhyped. But if you're uneasy with overrated, take overhyped instead since I didn't use the term overrated in a very different way than overhyped.
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Old 02-18-2012, 04:15 AM   #883 (permalink)
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Yes, not quite as much as Lin, but he certainly is. Also Turkoglu is repulsive, even more so than Lin.

Anyway, I see that you are a "fanatic" of Lin as well. Please ignore my posts on this topic as we won't have a meaningful conversation on this. I'm here to talk with people who are capable of arguments and critical thinking (like TORaptor4Ever), rather than just fans like yourself. What you wrote above responding to what I wrote is simply dull. I will not reply your posts on Lin, so please do the same for my posts.

im a fan but it's ignorant of you to assume im just a fan and im not capable of critical thinking. if ur so clever then u probably wouldnt say Lin is overrated without valid evidence. If he's so overrated i guess everyone's just blind except for you. The hype is a little overboard but he's certainly not overrated. A lineup of second unit with the exception of Tyson Chandler went on a 7 game winning streak with him playing a crucial part of the team every single game doesn't seem overrated to me. I'm willing to bet money with you that he's not overrated....he's the real deal and is a capable starting guard down the road for the Knicks. He's been doing it his whole career and wasn't recognized until now. Sure he's turnovers are a little bit high but he's intangibles are more than enough to make up for it. He's pretty much a rookie playing under the watchful eyes of the most scrutinized media in the world. He's setting new career records every game he's played and he's turning the Knicks around by allowing everyone to play in their natural position. If anything you are probably limited in your vocabularies by using the word overrated, or you simply have not been a basketball junkie but just some hater who's splashing cold water on Lin's remarkable accomplishments so far. If he flammed out after a couple games then you can call him overrated....but until then please wait until the end of the year to make such a shallow statement. It's too much hype at this point to rank him in the race to MVP, but it's too early to call him overrated when he's only shattered a couple records in the 7 games he's started. It's kinda like calling Tiger Woods overrated a couple games into his career before he won the PGA tour rookie of the year in 96 and his first major in 97.

He has broken the NBA record for most points scored in first 5 NBA starts.
In his first 5 NBA starts Lin has scored 136 points and now holds the record for the most points scored for an NBA player in theignorantir first 5 NBA starts. His total of 136 points puts him in first place ahead of Dan Issel who had 129 points. More interesting is the other players on the list that Lin surpassed which include Shaquille O’Neal, Freeman Williams (1977 and 1978 NCAA men’s basketball Division I scoring champion), Jerry Stackhouse, and Dominique Wilkins. Unless you can name a sophomore averaging 24.4 points and 9.1 assists in their first 7 starts please keep your premature assessment to yourself. Times magazine wouldn't put him on the cover because he's overrated would they? I have no interest in replying your dull statement, but after all, a dull statement deserves a dull reply.

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Old 02-18-2012, 06:25 AM   #884 (permalink)
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Old 02-18-2012, 10:24 AM   #885 (permalink)
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D'Antoni needs to start curbing Lin's minutes, as the guy looks exhausted. His turnovers are way, way up, and a lot of them are just careless plays. Teams are starting to sag off and get into the passing lanes and their big men are cutting him off on the pick-and-roll. Lin's getting his share of points, but his high number of turnovers will eventually start hurting the Knicks (did so last night). His assist-to-turnover ratio of 1.7:1 is inexcusable for a PG. You usually want something close to 3:1. He also has 35 turnovers in his last 5 games. Ouch!
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Old 02-18-2012, 01:56 PM   #886 (permalink)
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I guess Lin's trying to trademark "Linsanity" after two other guys already tried to.
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Old 02-18-2012, 01:59 PM   #887 (permalink)
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D'Antoni needs to start curbing Lin's minutes, as the guy looks exhausted. His turnovers are way, way up, and a lot of them are just careless plays. Teams are starting to sag off and get into the passing lanes and their big men are cutting him off on the pick-and-roll. Lin's getting his share of points, but his high number of turnovers will eventually start hurting the Knicks (did so last night). His assist-to-turnover ratio of 1.7:1 is inexcusable for a PG. You usually want something close to 3:1. He also has 35 turnovers in his last 5 games. Ouch!
Agreed. He does have to improve that part of his game.....

3:1 seems like it's rare for a PG these days though.... even Rondo, Nash, Rubio and Rose aren't pulling that off. The only guys who ARE this season are....

Jose: 4.52:1 (avgs. 8.8 assts/gm)
CP3: 4.12:1 (avgs. 8.8 assts/gm)
L. Williams: 3.69:1 (avgs. 3.8 assts/gm)
T. Parker: 3.07:1 (avgs. 7.8 assts/gm)
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Old 02-18-2012, 05:50 PM   #888 (permalink)
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I said "close to 3:1", and players like Rondo and Nash are hovering over 2.5:1.

And just taking his last five games, his assist-to-turnover ratio is 44:35. That's about 1.35 assists for every turnover.
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Old 02-18-2012, 06:23 PM   #889 (permalink)
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i agree, the turnovers need to come down. first the caught teams by surprise and there was an adjusting period for the teams. now teams have caught on and now its jeremy's turn to adjust and we will see how he does. in last nights game he had 8 t/o in the 1st half and knicks were only down 4. meaning he only had 1 in the 2nd half. in the 4th the whole knicks team couldn't make shots and that's why they lost. if you watch the game you see that teams are getting really physical with him everytime he drives and thats what happens in this league. those kind of things are enough to disrupt you but not enough that you can really say its a foul. if you play basketball you know what i mean. those are the most annoying! anyways, its now Lin's turn to adjust and we'll see how he does tomorrow
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Old 02-18-2012, 06:53 PM   #890 (permalink)
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I said "close to 3:1", and players like Rondo and Nash are hovering over 2.5:1.

And just taking his last five games, his assist-to-turnover ratio is 44:35. That's about 1.35 assists for every turnover.
Difference between him and most other seasoned PGs like those guys is about 200+ starts though lol.

Takes time to learn the position. Probably the most difficult one the game to master.
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Old 02-18-2012, 08:52 PM   #891 (permalink)
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ESPN Racist Jeremy Lin Headline: Network Apologizes For Insensitive Headline For Knicks Loss


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Old 02-19-2012, 02:10 AM   #892 (permalink)
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CHINK IN THE ARMOUR!

LOLOLOLOLOL.

Classic.
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CHINK IN THE ARMOUR!

LOLOLOLOLOL.

Classic.
i'm glad you found this hilarious
classic? really?
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Old 02-19-2012, 11:12 AM   #894 (permalink)
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Opening skit on SNL lats night was completely about Lin, damn funny and way over the line intentionally.

Best line "I hope Camelo likes Chinese in his MSG"
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i'm glad you found this hilarious
classic? really?
Yeah, it is funny.

Only ESPN would think that it would be a good idea.

Honestly, it's better then any of the other Lin puns.
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Old 02-19-2012, 03:09 PM   #896 (permalink)
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Yeah, it is funny.

Only ESPN would think that it would be a good idea.

Honestly, it's better then any of the other Lin puns.
this wasn't a "Lin" pun. it was an asian pun directed at jeremy. you seem like a typical ignorant dude who probably thinks chinese is a language
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Old 02-19-2012, 03:10 PM   #897 (permalink)
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Today's Lin watch (vs. Mavs)... so far at the half....

12 pts, 1 reb, 6 assists, 1 stl, 1 blk, 1 TO
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Old 02-19-2012, 03:31 PM   #898 (permalink)
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this wasn't a "Lin" pun. it was an asian pun directed at jeremy. you seem like a typical ignorant dude who probably thinks chinese is a language
Oh, you can tell all that from one post? Wow you're really something special..
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Two more early turnovers..
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