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Old 02-11-2012, 04:41 PM   #621 (permalink)
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Old 02-11-2012, 04:42 PM   #622 (permalink)
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oh, i remember people saying jennings had high iq the way he was playing then.
I don't. I remember being pretty impressed that he dropped 50....but he didn't do it like Lin is doing it. Lin is a smart player.
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hahahahaha, when I saw that last night, I KNEW this would be your response.

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Old 02-11-2012, 04:47 PM   #626 (permalink)
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It's incredible what one guy can do for you! There is no talent on that team without Melo and Amare, but chemistry is of the chart! We need a glue guy like that, who gonna make everybody else wanna play hard!
Honestly, saying there is NO TALENT on that team is pretty ridiculous. Those guys as a team are playing very well. It's more like, sometimes "star players" kill teams when the non-stars get no PT but are more than willing to play hard and run the offence.
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Thanks, but I blew it. He was really thinking about adopting him first, and then maybe moving on to marriage if everything worked out when Melo and Amare return.
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D'antoni said last night after the game he didn't even know lin scored that many points because he got it all within the concept of team basketball. Only after when he looked at the box score he was like wow, he score 38?! because he just all seemed to come naturally, within the flow of the offense.
half time magic called lin the real deal and a mix of stockon and nash. high praise, i know, but i trust magic's evaluation of PGs. just look at rubio as the most recent example.
that's why i believe he's no flash in the pan. He will maintain SUCCESS in the league, but those points obviously will come down. he's averaging like a top 5 scorer in the entire league and we know thats unrealistic. when amare comes back i see his assist numbers going way up. he's getting 7-8 assists off of this roster. chandlers points mostly come off of dunks so assists are hard to come by. the pick and roll with amare will be even more successful and may open chandler up for even more lobs. i'm really excited to see amare back in the lineup. melo.....not so much. i see him averaging around 15 and 10 in the long run. no all star but damn good starter.

and how long is the excuse "just wait until teams gameplan for him" gonna last? you just saw the lakers game plan for him. they sent double teams and he split them. they gave him the outside shot and he hit them. "but just wait until he goes up against elite pgs like rose". well how many PGs can go up against a rose, paul or westbrook etc. why compare him with the elite when there aren't any elite expectations? but he's also gone up against dwill and john wall. but the excuse is they play on crap teams. so your gonna wait until he plays against a contender that also has an elite PG to be convinced. i'm sure a new excuse will be made up by that time.
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Old 02-11-2012, 04:52 PM   #629 (permalink)
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I think you go off the rails a bit when you mention the supporting cast Kirby. They aren't a completely talentless lot. There are good shooters. They all have good energy to match Lin's. They play solid defense. And none of them are going to expect a particular amount of touches, which gives Lin all the freedom in the world.

Being a successful pg in this league is often about circumstances and who you are playing with. Right now Lin does not have it so bad in either area. I'm not sure why a Steve Novak is getting overlooked so much in all of this.
nah I don't think I said talentless. I've been saying below average the whole time. I agree that the guys have their own roles and are playing them perfectly. They're playing hard which is why they're winning with what they have and the squad's actually committing to defense. To be honest, Novak has been shooting the lights out and always has been before the NYK contract. It's just that one-dimensional players like Jeffries and Novak can't really be depended on night in and night out if you want to be competitive in this league. These Knicks are definitely much more fun to watch than Melo jacking up 30 shots a night.

throw in an undrafted d-leaguer in there and you have the Knicks going 4-0
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First it was Jimmer Fredette mania, later there was Tim Tebow mania and now there is Lin mania.. I will give couple of weeks maybe month at the most, soon all this will be over and everything will comeback to normal..
Why?

What is it about Lin's game don't you like?

Floor vision?
Ball handling?
First step?
Ability to hit the outside J?
..get to the paint?
Blow by Kobe like he wasn't there?

All while staying calm and in the moment......?

I'm curious, I'd like all of the geniuses here to explain to me, WHY this is all gonna go away and Lin will be back to the D-league?

Maybe you didn't watch any of the games... I only saw two. But I KNOW what a good player looks like, and he's impersonating one now if he isn't one.
I don't see him averaging anywhere near 30 pts a game, but he IS capable of starting for that team.

Please, ALL of you who know better, please tell what it was about what you saw that tells you he can't play.

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Old 02-11-2012, 04:57 PM   #631 (permalink)
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nah I don't think I said talentless. I've been saying below average the whole time. I agree that the guys have their own roles and are playing them perfectly. They're playing hard which is why they're winning with what they have and the squad's actually committing to defense. To be honest, Novak has been shooting the lights out and always has been before the NYK contract. It's just that one-dimensional players like Jeffries and Novak can't really be depended on night in and night out if you want to be competitive in this league. These Knicks are definitely much more fun to watch than Melo jacking up 30 shots a night.

throw in an undrafted d-leaguer in there and you have the Knicks going 4-0
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Yeah - I'm just saying it's a pretty good situation for him. I don't think what he's doing is so amazing because he's overcoming the players around him, but rather they are the right type of players to make it possible.
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Yeah - I'm just saying it's a pretty good situation for him. I don't think what he's doing is so amazing because he's overcoming the players around him, but rather they are the right type of players to make it possible.
yep. agree..it might be harder with the prima donnas when they come back. Those two do NOT like taking a back seat of passing the ball.
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Honestly, I see a lot of the same flags I saw with Jose. He's going to get his payday from some team and they'll end up spending years talking about how it was a bad contract.
wht are you talking about, please tell us all about the flags.
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So Lin vs Rubio that should be fun
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Old 02-11-2012, 05:19 PM   #635 (permalink)
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Yeah - I'm just saying it's a pretty good situation for him. I don't think what he's doing is so amazing because he's overcoming the players around him, but rather they are the right type of players to make it possible.
ah I see.

The first game that Lin first dropped 25 against the Nets, Melo looked like he was taking a backseat to Lin (probably because he was 3-15 that night).

I really hope that they don't come back and mess things up. Amare and Lin would be a pleasure to watch.
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yep. agree..it might be harder with the prima donnas when they come back. Those two do NOT like taking a back seat of passing the ball.
Amare used to play with Nash. Why are you includig Amare in that type of statement?

Amare is willing to be a finisher off PnR. He would welcome Lin, especially after watching him spoonfeed Chandler and Jeffries.

Melo. He likes to score primarily off isos. A different story. That's where the chemistry issues could happen, in my opinion. Melo will probably want his touches.

I don't see Amar'e being an issue for Lin. He could help.
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Honestly, as much as I dislike the Knicks organization, I still dislike the Heat more. Assuming Lin is really a high quality starter for the long haul, I hope Melo and Lin find a way of picking their respective spots so they can make it work. The playoffs might be more interesting, that way.
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I think Amare could be an issue if the defense starts to break down. These guys are really working well together defensively, and Chandler finally looks like he has a proper role to fill.
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I think Amare could be an issue if the defense starts to break down.
Well, that's a different issue than passing.

If Dantoni is the coach for the rest of the season, the defense will not be that great either way, in my opinion. Playing better D obviously helps, but having an effective offense is how his teams distinguish themselves. So, even if you want to argue that Jeffries next to Chandler is a better defensive pairing, I think the potential net gain is higher with a Chandler + Amare frontcourt. Jeffries is a role player. Amare HAS won playoff series against good opponents. Over a large sample, when teams are preparing for Lin, I trust Amare to catch and finish more than I trust Jeffries to do so. I also trust Amare waaaaay more to hit the pop, if he has to pop. Talk to the KnicksChick! Jeffries is turrible on offense.
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