Stern wants to raise the NBA draft entry age
Old 04-03-2012, 06:53 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Stern pointed out that the so-called “one-and-done” rule was an NBA-driven improvement from the days when high school standouts were drafted directly into the NBA, and that he would like to see the requirement taken further.

“We have a committee that we’ve agreed to with the Players’ Association. We will be looking at the entire situation and probably with the (National Collegiate Athletic Association) input as well,” Stern told reporters after kicking off the NBA’s Green Week, a program sponsored by Sprint to generate awareness and funding to help protect the environment.

“We would love to add a year, but it’s not something that the Players Association has been willing to agree to.”
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Old 04-03-2012, 06:55 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Interesting. I guess the league wants more mature players to enter the draft.
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Interesting. I guess the league wants more mature players to enter the draft.
mature + just a little more nba ready
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Old 04-03-2012, 06:59 PM   #4 (permalink)
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i've always liked the idea of it. look at what we've learned about the kids that stuck around the extra season this year. i bet they're all kicking themselves aside from jones.
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Yeah, they prob don't want to pull of a Cousins again.
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Old 04-03-2012, 07:20 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I'm all for a two year rule for personal reasons (better NCAA level play, less un-ready NBA busts) but it seems absurd to tell kids that have an offer to play in the best league in the world and earn millions that they can't because of an arbitrary rule.
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Most of them would just go over to Europe and make money instead, and then come back.
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Yeah, they prob don't want to pull of a Cousins again.
that's actually an argument for most GMs. a young talent like cousins are prospects who, at a younger age, might bring out their full potential sooner because of the grind against older, developed players in the NBA. you gotta adapt quickly to survive in the league. that's why straight-out-of-high school players could develop faster because of the exposure.

As for "lack of a fundamental skill set" that's up to the player to improve, not the quick rush to the NBA. if they do enter the league raw, they have specialists to help work on their game and have all the practice time they need to improve because it's their full time job. they don't have as much duties to attend to while in the NCAA (studies, lack of money, etc.)

however i'm not arguing against the draft entry age, i just have mixed feelings about it.
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that's actually an argument for most GMs. a young talent like cousins are prospects who, at a younger age, might bring out their full potential sooner because of the grind against older, developed players in the NBA. you gotta adapt quickly to survive in the league. that's why straight-out-of-high school players could develop faster because of the exposure.

As for "lack of a fundamental skill set" that's up to the player to improve, not the quick rush to the NBA. if they do enter the league raw, they have specialists to help work on their game and have all the practice time they need to improve because it's their full time job. they don't have as much duties to attend to while in the NCAA (studies, lack of money, etc.)

however i'm not arguing against the draft entry age, i just have mixed feelings about it.
I'm talking personality wise, and maturity. Players have to realize how hard it is to get in the NBA, and should take it seriously, players goof off and don't respect what they got, im not knocking down his skill sets at all
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As well with maturity, these kids are coming into the league at 19/20 making $5million and not learning to save for when they retire. Its difficult to look past this when youre making tons of money than the average person. As well NBA should at least encourage education first than when they can just go to the NBA and make money. Some don't even get resigned after their rookie contract and have no where to go but the D league.

But still with older players they have less time to deevelop in the NBA and have less potential
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I'm talking personality wise, and maturity. Players have to realize how hard it is to get in the NBA, and should take it seriously, players goof off and don't respect what they got, im not knocking down his skill sets at all
then why can't that personality develop on the hardest stage in a basketball players career?

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As well with maturity, these kids are coming into the league at 19/20 making $5million and not learning to save for when they retire. Its difficult to look past this when youre making tons of money than the average person. As well NBA should at least encourage education first than when they can just go to the NBA and make money. Some don't even get resigned after their rookie contract and have no where to go but the D league.
to enter the nba is to risk almost everything. that's just life. ray allen said it right when he meant that the nba stands for "no boys allowed". you don't succeed, you don't get paid.

for saving money and building a career, that's great if they have something to fall back on after they're done. however having a few millions in their pocket, without a college degree, don't you think after their professional basketball career is finished they can head back to school? open up a business? explore more options than the regular college graduate?

if they wanna risk everything to have a shot of being rich and famous in the NBA, let them. what they do afterwards is something they should plan.

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These players DO NOT plan for the future or what they will do after retiring or when the yare out of the league. They only see Ill rather go to school and go make millions. This money is ended up being spent cause they have so much money and life is good for them. If you think its really easy to open up your own business as an entrepreneur then I guess that means everybody should start up a business too. Fact is starting up your own business is difficult and these guys do not have the knowledge to do so. And not every player takes business while in University.

Easiest bet is to go to Euroe/China/South America or play in the Dleague
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These players DO NOT plan for the future or what they will do after retiring or when the yare out of the league. They only see Ill rather go to school and go make millions.
that's a very small majority of players who keep that mindset throughout their nba careers. take in the fact that players even under ludcrious NBA contracts go through life like all of us. they grow up and go through the ups and downs of life and change.

read the story of a NBA player named stanley roberts, who pretty much entered the nba after his stint in college, with a high potential, then was kicked out because of drug use. after his basketball career he's back at LSU getting a degree and restarting his life.

people change, and if players who are unsuccessful don't change that mindset, and didn't plan out life, so what? they don't drop dead and die on the street.

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This money is ended up being spent cause they have so much money and life is good for them. If you think its really easy to open up your own business as an entrepreneur then I guess that means everybody should start up a business too. Fact is starting up your own business is difficult and these guys do not have the knowledge to do so. And not every player takes business while in University.

Easiest bet is to go to Euroe/China/South America or play in the Dleague
ok not everyone takes a business degree while in college or university, but you just proved my point of having options open for them after the nba. they can choose to play in europe and other leagues to get their money. if they fail and have nowhere else to go, they got the money and connections to build on, or go back home and start again, go back to school, etc.

so in conclusion, if a player wants to spend one year in college to make the jump to the nba with no regards to the future, whatever, that's his gamble. he has more than enough opportunities to take hold of after it's all said and done to continue to have a successful financial career

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Old 04-03-2012, 11:57 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Hard to get a player that can barely read toplay more than one year of basketball in college. Even if it is a state school. Could be bad for ball
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Not going to happen until the year we get the first pick and the highest prospect is a would-be one and done.
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Why can't players come out of high school? Go look at some of the leagues top players over the past few years. All high school guys. Lebron Kobe KG, Durant would have come out of high school probably as well.

They should have the right to choose.
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Why can't players come out of high school? Go look at some of the leagues top players over the past few years. All high school guys. Lebron Kobe KG, Durant would have come out of high school probably as well.

They should have the right to choose.
Also the team that wants to risk the draft pick should also have the choice really. They're taking a huge gamble doing something like that.
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The players union and the NBA won't agree on anything until the next strike.
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Why can't players come out of high school? Go look at some of the leagues top players over the past few years. All high school guys. Lebron Kobe KG, Durant would have come out of high school probably as well.

They should have the right to choose.
They have the right to choose Europe, NBA D-League, CBA, etc. NBA is under no obligation whatsoever to lower its draft age.
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Old 04-04-2012, 09:49 AM   #20 (permalink)
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the solution is for NBA scouting departments to do more due diligence on their draft picks. The NBA lowers the minimum age to mitigate the risk of a botched selection for a crappy front office. the league's top front offices consistently get value with their draft picks, no matter where they draft, and don't use "well he was a freshman" or "he was only 18 years old" as excuses when they screw up. lower the minimum age to 16, who the fuck cares, if front offices are doing their due diligence leading up to a draft, then 16 year olds won't get drafted because they aren't NBA ready...and the process will correct itself. guys will stay in school longer, spend more time developing physically, because that's the only way they'll get drafted.
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