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Old 06-13-2012, 03:46 PM   #1 (permalink)
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NBA commissioner David Stern got into a heated exchange with Jim Rome Wednesday when the radio host asked him if the Hornets winning the draft lottery was fixed.

"I know that you appreciate a good conspiracy theory as much as the next guy, was the fix in for the lottery?" asked Rome, who hosts a daily show on CBS Sports Network.

"I have two answers for that," Stern said. "The simple easy one, no, the second, a statement, shame on you for asking."

Rome went on to say that he thought it was his job to ask because people wonder.

"No, it's ridiculous, but that's OK," Stern said.

Rome, who used to host the show "Jim Rome is Burning" on ESPN, said he didn't think the question was ridiculous.

Stern responded: "Have you stopped beating your wife yet?"

Since Rome has no history of spousal abuse, it appears that the commissioner was using a traditional loaded question as a tool to make his point: that the question itself, in this case about the lottery, presumes guilt.

Rome responded: "I don't think that's fair."

After a little more back and forth, Rome said he hoped Stern wouldn't hold the question against him.

"I wouldn't hold it against you," Stern said. "You and I have been in more contentious talks that that. But it's good copy. You do these things for cheap thrills."

Rome took offense to that statement, and Stern changed his characterization.

"Cheap trick," he said. "You've been successful in making a career of it, and I keep coming on."

That prompted a flurry of exchanges:

Rome: "Making a career of it? Making a career of what? What? Cheap thrills?"

Stern: "Now you're getting mad. You're taking on the world and now Jim Rome is pouting."

Rome: "I'm not pouting, I'm taking offense."

Stern: "You want to hang up on me?"

Rome: "No, I'm seriously running out of time."

Stern: "Listen, I gotta go call somebody important like Stephen A. Smith back. He's next."

Rome: "OK, you go make that call and I'll go talk to somebody else too I guess. Have a nice day. I did not hang up on him, we are officially out of time."
NBA commissioner David Stern, radio host Jim Rome get into it over lottery - ESPN
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Brilliant response.. "Have you stopped beating your wife yet?"

It's offensive, but so is asking a commissioner if he is fixing his lottery.
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Stern needs to chill... wow.
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Brilliant response.. "Have you stopped beating your wife yet?"

It's offensive, but so is asking a commissioner if he is fixing his lottery.
He did preface it gently, and Stern should have been more than prepared to give a very dismissive response to a question that has likely been posed to him quite often.... he came out of left field with a personal attack, a total dick move that I'd expect from a 5th grader.
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i think stern was right on the money here.
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Jim Rome is a blockhead, but this is pretty funny.
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Stern needs to chill... wow.
Agreed. It's not the same thing that as the have you stopped beating your wife statement because whether you say yes or no, you are admitting you beat your wife.

With a question of "was the fix in....." you can flatly say no and there is no admission of guilt.
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Out of time yeah right.........interview was just supposed to be 4 and a half minutes with the commissioner of basketball? Guess he had to play it off.
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Stern's an idiot. He talked about it last night without taking issue like this. It's a legitimate question, as unfortunate as that is. Shame on him for needing to respond to it. He really needs to move on.
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Old 06-13-2012, 04:44 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I don't feel sorry for Stern at all. He could have disarmed any conspiracy theories years ago by bringing the ball drop out into the public eye. No idea why he's been so pig-headed about it for so long.
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Agreed. It's not the same thing that as the have you stopped beating your wife statement because whether you say yes or no, you are admitting you beat your wife.

With a question of "was the fix in....." you can flatly say no and there is no admission of guilt.
I agree completely: they are totally different questions, and each is wrong for a different reason, rendering the analogy completely broken.

The reason I think it's a bad question is because it's a dumb one. Rome knows there is no possible way that Stern is going to answer "Yes, the fix is on", so I think the question is clearly some sort of bait or badge of courage for Rome (or perhaps something else I'm not clever enough to think of). Regardless, it seems like garbage journalism, and to get roasted by that Stephen A. Smith comparison....wow.
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I don't feel sorry for Stern at all. He could have disarmed any conspiracy theories years ago by bringing the ball drop out into the public eye. No idea why he's been so pig-headed about it for so long.
I think that's all in your imagination. You know that there is live footage of 9/11, right?
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Why would he think he wasnt going to be asked that question immediately? he Did.

He just wantd to fuck with Rome.

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I think that's all in your imagination. You know that there is live footage of 9/11, right?
I'm not saying that I believe that the lottery is fixed... I just think that it's stupid of Stern to continue to run the lottery the way that he does when it'd be an easy fix to silence any doubters.
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I think you missed the thrust of my point:

9/11 was caught live on film, but there are still people that believe there was a conspiracy at play, and there are also some who believe the planes never even hit.

The lottery would be no different.

Don't underestimate the power of a conspiracy theory to explain everything.

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I could definitely see the conspiracies multiplying if the proceeds were filmed.
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He did preface it gently, and Stern should have been more than prepared to give a very dismissive response to a question that has likely been posed to him quite often.... he came out of left field with a personal attack, a total dick move that I'd expect from a 5th grader.
I thought you liked 5th graders!?!? I thought you liked me?
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I think you missed the thrust of my point:

9/11 was caught live on film, but there are still people that believe there was a conspiracy at play, and there are also some who believe the planes never even hit.

The lottery would be no different.

Don't underestimate the power of a conspiracy theory to explain everything.
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I could definitely see the conspiracies multiplying if the proceeds were filmed.

I'm sure that there will ALWAYS be people who will buy into conspiracy theories... but I think they'd have to be much more creative in developing those theories to the point where they were believable.

I guess they could always say that Stern made sure that the ping pong balls were weighted differently to give one team an advantage over the others? Ha.
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I agree completely: they are totally different questions, and each is wrong for a different reason, rendering the analogy completely broken.

The reason I think it's a bad question is because it's a dumb one. Rome knows there is no possible way that Stern is going to answer "Yes, the fix is on", so I think the question is clearly some sort of bait or badge of courage for Rome (or perhaps something else I'm not clever enough to think of). Regardless, it seems like garbage journalism, and to get roasted by that Stephen A. Smith comparison....wow.
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