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Old 02-19-2008, 09:18 PM   #1 (permalink)
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WOW ... that would of been interesting if Dirk was dealt.

Anyhow, albeit talented, what's Dirk lacking? Heart? Drive? .... I can't figure it out.


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The Mavericks' move on Jason Kidd has as much to do with Avery Johnson's dissatisfaction with Dirk Nowitzki as a leader as with Devin Harris' point-guard shortcomings. According to an infallible source, the Mavericks' coach pressed team owner Mark Cuban to deal Dirk after the NBA's MVP came up shamefully small against the Warriors in last season's upsetting first-round elimination, but was overruled.
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Old 02-19-2008, 10:26 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Bring on the flamers... you cant have a euro as the heart n soul of your team, not enough heart baby!! haha idc what u say cuz im right on this one til proven wrong, and dont say SA because we all know who the heart of that team is. I think they are nice players but most of them dont seem to be natural leaders and dont respond well to being pushed around, this will probably change in time as more euro's adjust to the north american game just like what happened in hockey, but for now, no, i wouldnt want any euro being the heart and soul of my team.
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Bring on the flamers... you cant have a euro as the heart n soul of your team, not enough heart baby!! haha idc what u say cuz im right on this one til proven wrong, and dont say SA because we all know who the heart of that team is. I think they are nice players but most of them dont seem to be natural leaders and dont respond well to being pushed around, this will probably change in time as more euro's adjust to the north american game just like what happened in hockey, but for now, no, i wouldnt want any euro being the heart and soul of my team.

All Im going to say is you are an ignorant person, not worthy to say anything more.
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Bring on the flamers... you cant have a euro as the heart n soul of your team, not enough heart baby!! haha idc what u say cuz im right on this one til proven wrong, and dont say SA because we all know who the heart of that team is. I think they are nice players but most of them dont seem to be natural leaders and dont respond well to being pushed around, this will probably change in time as more euro's adjust to the north american game just like what happened in hockey, but for now, no, i wouldnt want any euro being the heart and soul of my team.
Ok just so we are clear your not suggesting that Euro Hockey players are weak are you??

and again...how did the Euros fair when Team USA was pushing them around the last few years,,,,you sir...are dense.
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Old 02-20-2008, 12:48 AM   #5 (permalink)
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ahhh and personal insults prove your arguement to be true W/e u wanna say, facts are facts, no team has won a championship with a euro at the helm, theres no euro that is the true leader of their team.

We are talking NBA basketball here kids, not internation basketball. I dont care if every other country takes it way more serious and has teams together in excess of 10 years, training and playing 2gether and have a cohesive unit that can beat teams thrown 2gether and trained 2gether in a matter of months, that are poorly built with 2 many superstars on them, if you think that makes the euro players better then americans, in any way shape or form you are more then dense, your are downright retard, there is no real comparison, NBA ball is much tougher, ref's let way more shit go in playoff ball then that soft euro style that is common over there, so dont bring this retarded you gonna compare euro players to american players in any way then call me dense, your more then dense, i know your euro so it must hurt you to hear, but you guys are still very far away in terms of talent, u have a few nice players, but until u can name me a true tough leader, instead of calling me dense, all you proving is your little feelings are hurt, gg sir.

And lets be serious about these international ref's? Lol they dont let america beat up teams, they are as soft as the players over there BOOOOM

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Old 02-20-2008, 08:06 AM   #6 (permalink)
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your are downright retard,
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, NBA ball is much tougher, ref's let way more shit go in playoff ball then that soft euro style that is common over there,,
Not even close to true.

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And lets be serious about these international ref's? Lol they dont let america beat up teams, they are as soft as the players over there BOOOOM
BOOOOOM? Look the best team in the NBA has 2 Euros and 1 dude from teh Virgin Islands. NBA players have just started to come over and play seriously so expect it alot more. I'll use your own hockey reference, we used to think we were kings shits of the sport, no-one could touch Canada, best in the NHL....then we played the summit series and almost got beat, by a bunch of guys who played in the Russian league. The game is changing my friend....get on board or get out of the way.
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Wow, pimp, my question to you is have you ever watched a single Euro basketball competition? Cause if you have you'll likely know that it's a ROUGHER game and far more physical than the NBA (actually many people I've talken to feel that the NBA game is far more soft).

Secondly, your comment of no Euro ever leading etc. How long have Euro players been featured players on a team? You don't even have a large enough sample size to make an accurate assessment. Plus, your opinion has demonstrated something here, would you be willing to follow a European player on your team or would your ignorance stop you from following him? Could this not be one motivating factor as well?

Thirdly, some could argue that the world championships don't matter to the US basketball program. Granted, but the Olympics do. And the last time I looked the US have been pushed around and bullied into defeats, and the overall answer is the refs are biased or don't call ALL the fouls. Really, the answer is simple. You got beat by guys who are just as talented. So please, don't tell me that Euro's are soft. I wonder what Jorge would say to that?
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Old 02-20-2008, 09:14 AM   #8 (permalink)
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WOW ... pimp is our very own Don Cherry.
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Old 02-20-2008, 09:18 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Old 02-20-2008, 09:28 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Pimp must've been embarassed on the court by a Euro.
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Old 02-20-2008, 09:06 PM   #11 (permalink)
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hehe w/e u wanna say, its what i think, and i do think eventually they will adapt and could be leaders in the nba, just not now, like i said in hockey, when russians 1st came to the league, they were all finesse and were never the true leaders of a team, i mean even if you go to teams with a ton of euro stars like the Av's who was the heart and soul? Who was the heart and soul of the Red Wings for all those great years?? yea thx. Nowadays tho there are plenty of tough euro players i have respect for in the nhl, but that day hasnt come in the nba for me.

And if you ask most kids dreaming of basketball glory from the USA what their main goal is, easy , NBA Title then a NCCA title and a distant 3rd olympic title, were as for european players international games are viewed much different.

Also i would say the world has caught up to Canada in hockey to a point... but you are comparing a CONTINENT to a COUNTRY.... Canada is still the most talented COUNTRY in hockey by LEAPS AND BOUNDS!! Whereas the USA is more talented as a COUNTRY then that ENTIRE CONTINENT... im not saying it will always be this way, i really think a new breed of tougher euro' will emerge with a finesse game, but im saying it hasnt happened yet, and just like the leafs with their Swedish captain... u arent winning that way in the NBA.
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Old 02-20-2008, 09:56 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Dude, the Russians were as tough as nails, not to mention not the first Europeans to play in the NHL. Get a clue!
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Dude, the Russians were as tough as nails, not to mention not the first Europeans to play in the NHL. Get a clue!
+1 the beat the tar out of the Canucks in 72.
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Old 02-20-2008, 11:07 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Ummm sorry, but the 1st russians in the nhl werent grinders, they were finesse players...

Yes those russians were so tough, the same team that walked off the ice when they played the Broad Street Bullies in Philly...

The problem in 72 wasnt they were out hitting us or grinding us, they were out skating us and bringing a finesse game that we werent used to, seriously did u watch the 72 series? With Phil Es threatening death to players and Canada trying to bruise players.... Not to mention the real reason they hung in was maybe the greatest goalie ever was on that russian team....

Oh and also, u always always always ignore this fact, THOSE EURO TEAMS PLAYED 2GETHER FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS AND THAT CANADA TEAM WAS THROWN 2GETHER IN A QUICK MATTER OF TIME... Plz stop acting like that isnt a big deal, its a massive deal, beating a team in a few games that doesnt have much experience 2gether proves nothing. Literally those Russian teams played 2gether since juniors to retirement while team canada was thrown 2gether after a grinding nhl season... o yea and we still won...

By me saying USA is greater in basketball and Canada in hockey, i mean in depth of talent at EVERY position, now as i said in hockey the gap has closed so i wouldnt say all of europe, but definately no country (especially russia come on) has the depth of talent, and for basketball u can take the world vs usa and its still not close.

Oh BTW who owns the world juniors?? Oh prob the country with the most depth.
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Depth of talent you are absolutly right...

Your blanket staements about leadership and character couldn't be more false.

American care about the NBA championship more than Olyimpics.....yes...and Euro care more about the olyimpics..whats your point?

The game is changing.
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Oh and you never cared to follow up that Refs call Euro games "softer" than the NBA...thats the funniest thing Ive ever heard when Dwanye Wade goes to the foul line for someone looking at him the wrong way.
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nba definately gives stars more calls, i wont argue that, but watching the last few international tournys then i saw more fathom bullshit calls in one game then i see in an entire nba playoffs.

I will acknowledge i could be wrong about euro league games cuz you couldnt pay me to watch one over an NCAA game, but i was just thinking from the championships and olympics the calibre of reffing, it would prob be on par, but i could be wrong at least i can acknowledge i could be wrong sometimes, none of you guys ever seem to be wrong, must be nice
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The only time I was wrong, was this one time, I admitted I was wrong.

Kay I guess this makes it 2. :cheeky-smiley-013::cheeky-smiley-013:
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Clearly pimply has never been checked in the corner by anyone named Fetisov or Konstantinov.
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Rasho eat Howard with potatoes yesterday.

Fuck, he stopped Superman. That's a tough guy in my books, or maybe Howard is softy?
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