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Old 01-27-2013, 08:42 PM   #41 (permalink)
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But if multiple teams are offering the max to Smith I would bite the bullet and do the same. Jose and Bargs together make up a larger share of the cap and personally I'm not averse to amnestying Bargs to alleviate the kind of cap hit that would entail. Smoove would let us move another big like Amir or Ed plus a swingman (Acy, Anderson, Fields) or maybe picks for a good guard/forward like Granger if he's healthy, or an Ellis.

Lowry/DeRozan/Granger/Smith/Valanciunas
JLIII(Augustin?)/Ross/Fields/Acy/Ed

That's certainly a playoff team in the east. Possibly home court even. Even without the pie in the sky, just adding Smoove I think puts us clearly in the conversation for the 8th, maybe 7th seed.
I would rather get Millsap, period. He's a good teammate and not a diva, and while he doesn't have Smith's talent or flash, he does more with it.
And I think he'll be cheaper.
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Old 01-27-2013, 08:51 PM   #42 (permalink)
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I would rather get Millsap, period. He's a good teammate and not a diva, and while he doesn't have Smith's talent or flash, he does more with it.
And I think he'll be cheaper.
millsap<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< defence than smith. I'm tired of one way players, as LX has said. smith is a two way player. millsap isn't. defence first lads.
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Old 01-27-2013, 09:12 PM   #43 (permalink)
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millsap<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< defence than smith. I'm tired of one way players, as LX has said. smith is a two way player. millsap isn't. defence first lads.
I think we are talking about a different Millsap...
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Old 01-27-2013, 09:16 PM   #44 (permalink)
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I think we are talking about a different Millsap...
millsap is known primarily for his offence is he not? I may just be confused but that's what hits me when I think millsap, a 3 point shooting, excellent post offense type player. smith on the other hand I think long, athletic, shotblockers, with good post scoring, and horrid decision making at times. I know which i'd rather have
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Old 01-27-2013, 09:40 PM   #45 (permalink)
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millsap is known primarily for his offence is he not? I may just be confused but that's what hits me when I think millsap, a 3 point shooting, excellent post offense type player. smith on the other hand I think long, athletic, shotblockers, with good post scoring, and horrid decision making at times. I know which i'd rather have
Millsap is definitely a two way player. He's been among top 3 big men in steals for years. He's not a big time shot blocker like Josh Smith, but then again Smith often overdoes it and costs drives and open layups. Millsap is more fundamental. Smith is definitely a bigger talent on both ends, heck, he should be a superstar if he had the right mindset but I think it's too late to bet on him improving his decision making at this point.

I don't know that Smith is a much better defender. I'm looking at advanced stats right now, they generally favor Smith this year, last year some favor Smith and some Millsap. But it's hard to judge the difference based on them since Smith plays next to a very good defender this year (Horford) while Millsap plays next to a terrible defender (Big Al), so it's an uphill battle for Millsap. Either way, his D is good.
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Old 01-31-2013, 05:09 AM   #46 (permalink)
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if josh smith is worth max money, what's joe johnson worth?
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Old 01-31-2013, 02:30 PM   #47 (permalink)
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he will get it, not a ton of quality FA this summer.
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Old 01-31-2013, 05:48 PM   #48 (permalink)
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You guys really want Smith...he`s a prick.

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Old 01-31-2013, 07:31 PM   #49 (permalink)
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millsap<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< defence than smith. I'm tired of one way players, as LX has said. smith is a two way player. millsap isn't. defence first lads.
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I think we are talking about a different Millsap...
Yeah... pzabs, I think you're missing some stuff dude.

The FIRST thing that people noticed about Millsap when he came into the league was his defense.

I don't think that anyone had any idea how good he could be OFFENSIVELY.
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You guys really want Smith...he`s a prick.

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Old 01-31-2013, 08:10 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Huh. Apparently PHX wants Smith.

Josh Smith: Phoenix Suns Trying To Trade For Atlanta Hawks Star

Didn't see that coming. I'd probably take it and run if I was ATL. Gortat and a pick or two would be pretty good for them going forward.
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