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Claudius 10-19-2010 07:12 PM

Simmons: Griffin already a top 5 PF
 
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Call me a sucker, call me a fool. I don't care. Griffin cannot be hyped enough. He's already one of the best five power forwards in the league. (I have him behind Dirk, Bosh and Gasol and tied with an aging Duncan.) He would have been the third-best player on Team USA in August had the Americans included him. He's already (A) the best finisher of any big guy in the league, (B) the second-best rebounder in the league behind Dwight Howard, and (C) someone who flies around so recklessly that you constantly worry he might break his leg, his back, his neck there's just nobody else like him right now. You can't keep your eyes off him.
Agree?:reporter:

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carp 10-19-2010 07:51 PM

a little premature...

jeffb 10-19-2010 08:00 PM

0 NBA reg season games

LX 10-19-2010 08:04 PM

it's coming from a homer

finstock 10-19-2010 08:07 PM

I agree. My roommate is a Clipps fan so I've seen a ton of Griffin this preseason. Barring injury, he'll be the rookie of the year and a borderline all-star. That's big IF though, dude plays like a maniac. Teams can't solely focus on stopping him because the Clipps have a good outside attack, and Griffin plays alongside an All-Star frontcourt mate in Kaman.

eazy187 10-19-2010 08:19 PM

soon-to-be rookie of the year. True Story.

Windex 10-19-2010 08:36 PM

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CHARITY AUCTION TEAMS

29. Toronto
My dad attended the Raptors-Celtics preseason game Sunday and called me afterward just to ask, "That was their whole team, right? I kept thinking someone was injured, then I realized that was probably their whole team."

Yup. It was. Looks like somebody at my daughter's school is going to get a chance to bid on a Raptors-Clippers game at this year's auction!

Do I hear $50? Do I hear $60?

Semi-related note: The reason Denver will trade Carmelo between Dec. 15 and Feb. 15 is simple. The Bosh/Toronto situation taught us that if you think your best player might leave your situation for a better one (or a warmer one or a bigger market or whatever), you can't cross your fingers and hope loyalty trumps common sense. It won't. He's going to leave. Get something for him now. The good news for Raptors fans: They get four chances to boo Vince Carter and Chris Bosh this year. That's almost 10 percent of the season!
forgot Turko :dancing:

Nites 10-19-2010 11:17 PM

Overhype. How can you tie someone with Tim Duncan before he has played a real NBA regular season game? Are you kidding me, TIM DUNCAN, the greatest PF of all time. Don't get me wrong, Blake Griffin will defenitely be top 10 in rebounds this season but players like Joakim Noah, Zach Randolph, and Pau Gasol will get more rebounds then him because of there experience and because they play position to get there rebounds.

jeffb 10-19-2010 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 007nites (Post 446538)
Overhype. How can you tie someone with Tim Duncan before he has played a real NBA regular season game? Are you kidding me, TIM DUNCAN, the greatest PF of all time. Don't get me wrong, Blake Griffin will defenitely be top 10 in rebounds this season but players like Joakim Noah, Zach Randolph, and Pau Gasol will get more rebounds then him because of there experience and because they play position to get there rebounds.

I know. I've not seen too many players this over hyped in years. It's insane.

hontoni 10-19-2010 11:29 PM

It seems he will be very good player but i want to know why nearly everybody underestimates Amare?

jeffb 10-19-2010 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by hontoni (Post 446548)
It seems he will be very good player but i want to know why nearly everybody underestimates Amare?

I like Amare and don't get that either. Probably because he played with Nash and anyone who does good with Nash they tend to think it's because of Nash. Even though he was good before playing with Nash.

RaptorsandBuckeye FaN 10-19-2010 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffb (Post 446408)
0 NBA reg season games

+1. Very talented player but he hasn't done one thing in the NBA let. Potential is there but still have to go out there and prove it.

rapsmannn 10-19-2010 11:44 PM

the guy is a beast

looks to be a 20 and 10 guy

Nites 10-19-2010 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by hontoni (Post 446548)
It seems he will be very good player but i want to know why nearly everybody underestimates Amare?

I've never heard of anyone under estimating Amare.

jeffb 10-19-2010 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by rapsmannn (Post 446558)
looks to be a 20 and 10 guy

Looks to be is about right. We'll see. Can he stay healthy is my question. If the guy plays 70+ games this season then we can judge, i have my doubts he'll stay healthy. Just a hunch.

mb666 10-19-2010 11:47 PM

Amare dropped 39 tonight, granted it's preseason and against the Nets. Eitherway C/PFs don't score 39 pts.

Phoenix without Amare = No Playoffs.

Amare is a beast

Windex 10-19-2010 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffb (Post 446560)
Looks to be is about right. We'll see. Can he stay healthy is my question. If the guy plays 70+ games this season then we can judge, i have my doubts he'll stay healthy. Just a hunch.

he will be a 18/10 guy in 2010-11 fo sho

jeffb 10-19-2010 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 007nites (Post 446559)
I've never heard of anyone under estimating Amare.

Really? Have you read this place. According to most here Amare owes everything to Steve Nash and Amare is overrated.

Nites 10-19-2010 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffb (Post 446560)
Looks to be is about right. We'll see. Can he stay healthy is my question. If the guy plays 70+ games this season then we can judge, i have my doubts he'll stay healthy. Just a hunch.

He plays at a intensity level that is too high to stay healthy throughout a course of a 82 game season. Unless he can prove that wrong.

jeffb 10-19-2010 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by mb666 (Post 446561)
Phoenix without Amare = No Playoffs.

NY & Phoenix 2010-11= No Playoffs


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