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Old 03-06-2013, 03:21 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Stoudemire/Billups/Lowry
McGrady/DeRozan/Rose
Carter/Gay/Marion
Bosh/Willis/Davis
Olujawon/JO/Camby

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Old 03-06-2013, 03:26 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Stoudemire/Billups/Lowry
McGrady/DeRozan/Rose
Carter/Gay/Marion
Bosh/Camby/Davis
Olujawon/JO/Valanciunas
No love for Willis, people??? He averaged 18 and 16 in one season....
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Old 03-06-2013, 03:34 AM   #23 (permalink)
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No love for Willis, people??? He averaged 18 and 16 in one season....
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Old 03-06-2013, 10:45 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Stoudemire/Billups/Lowry
McGrady/DeRozan/Rose
Carter/Gay/Marion
Bosh/Willis/Davis
Olujawon/JO/Camby
thats a squad right there. too bad a lot of those players were either past their prime or had achieved there prime elsewhere.

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Old 03-06-2013, 05:01 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Then you better add O'Neal and Marion in there.
And JV, seriously????? Kevin Willis would be a better choice me thinks.
And Billups... and Mourning...
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Old 03-06-2013, 05:06 PM   #26 (permalink)
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And Billups... and Mourning...
Mourning can suck a dick. He didn't play one game here, hell i don't even think he has the courtesy of flying here to talk to the org.
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Old 03-17-2013, 10:25 PM   #27 (permalink)
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No love for mopete in these teams? Is he not a better 2 than demar?
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Old 03-17-2013, 10:27 PM   #28 (permalink)
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No love for mopete in these teams? Is he not a better 2 than demar?
Demar is basically a less skilled, less experienced Jalen Rose right now. Mo might be somewhere around that too.
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Old 03-18-2013, 01:35 AM   #29 (permalink)
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mopete was a perfect sixth man
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Old 04-25-2013, 07:14 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Your indisputable ex-Raptor NBA playoffs power rankings | NBA | Sports | National Post

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It can be difficult for Raptors fans, then, to find a rooting interest in these playoffs. No fear: Post basketball writer Eric Koreen did some very important research, and discovered there are 13 former Raptors (not including broadcasters, coaches or executives) eligible to play in these playoffs. Without further ado, here are the Ex-Raptor Playoff Power Rankings, of which the methodology is dubious and poorly defined, at best.

13. Ed Davis, forward, Memphis, 176 games as a Raptor
Playoff stats: 2 games, 3.0 PPG, 3.0 RPG, 8 MPG
Poor Boss. Sure, the trade to Memphis suggested Davis had turned himself into a much more marketable player than he had previously been. However, his reward was getting dealt to Memphis, where he is firmly behind defensive player of the year Marc Gasol, Zach Randolph and Darrell Arthur in the rotation. He was also building up a case for an expensive contract extension before being traded away. The playoff bonus he gets will not cover the opportunity cost. At least he gets to hang out with Tony Allen.

12. Kris Humphries, forward, Brooklyn, 159 games as a Raptor
Playoff stats: 2 games, 5.0 PPG, 3.0 RPG, 13 MPG
It has been a tough stretch for Humphries, whom the Raptors acquired for the immortal Rafael Araujo. There was the very public divorce with a tabloid star, the Kanye West diss and then the loss of minutes to another former Raptor — more on him later. Unless there is an injury up front for the Nets, Humphries will only play a few minutes per half.

11. Tracy McGrady, swingman, San Antonio, 192 games as a Raptor
Playoff stats: Has not played
McGrady will probably not see the floor, save for garbage time. But he went from playing on an 8-24 team in the Chinese Basketball Association to sitting on the end of the bench for a fringe championship contender. It looks like he will get out of the first round for just the second-time in his career, which counts for something.

10. Marcus Camby, centre, New York, 126 games as a Raptor
Playoff stats: Has not played
Bad news: You have to be pretty ancient to be too ancient to play for the generally ancient Knicks. Good news: The Knicks took the first two games of their series against Boston, and New York has plenty of injury risks that would make it possible for Camby to get on the floor.

9. Jerryd Bayless, guard, Memphis, 91 games as a Raptor
Playoff stats: 2 games, 10.5 PPG, 2.5 APG, 20 MPG
Bayless is a not-insignificant piece for the Grizzlies, who lack three-point shooters and perimeter creators. But the Grizzlies dropped the first two games of the series, and Bayless scored just two points in Game 2. Still, he is a decent bet to hit a few key shots before this series is out.

8. Carlos Delfino, swingman, Houston, 82 games as a Raptor
Playoff stats: 2 games, 10.5 PPG, 2.5 RPG, 31 MPG
Delfino’s Rockets are likely doomed, as they are playing the Thunder in the first round. But Delfino is the embodiment of the forever-gunning Rockets: 17 of his 23 field-goal attempts in the series have been from three-point range. (The Rockets have tried 71 three-pointers through two games.) It must be really fun to sit beyond the arc, wait for the pass, and launch away. If he had hit more than five of them up to this point, he would be higher on this list.

7. Marco Belinelli, guard, Chicago, 66 games as a Raptor
Playoff stats: 2 games, 10.5 PPG, 2.0 RPG, 16 MPG
In Toronto, Belinelli shot first and asked questions, well, never. He just kept on shooting. He has got up 15 field-goal attempts in 30 playoff minutes, so little has changed. But in order to find a role in Tom Thibodeau’s rotation, you have to be semi-responsible on defence. Plus, the Bulls have good underdog potential, as they continue to battle without Derrick Rose.

6. Chauncey Billups, guard, L.A. Clippers, 29 games as a Raptor
Playoff stats: 2 games, 9.5 PPG, 3.0 RPG, 22 MPG
Another player who wore the original complete-with-dinosaur Raptors uniform, Billups has been trying to regain his form after suffering a torn Achilles last year. After enduring an up-and-down regular season, Billups has proven crucial against the Grizzlies, who occasionally use an undersized backcourt. The Clippers are weak on the wing, allowing Billups to sneak in at shooting guard frequently.

5. Roy Hibbert, centre, Indiana, 0 games as a Raptor
Playoff stats: 2 games, 15.5 PPG, 8.5 RPG, 32 MPG
Asterisk alert: The 17th pick in the 2008 Draft, Hibbert never played a game for the Raptors. Toronto selected him, but only for Indiana’s benefit, as part of the ill-fated Jermaine O’Neal trade. Hibbert is obviously a stud, and one of the most important parts of Indiana’s dominant defence. He’s just not very Raptor-y.

4. Reggie Evans, forward, Brooklyn, 58 games as a Raptor
Playoff stats: 2 games, 4.5 PPG, 10.5 RPG, 27 MPG
Here’s the man who has been taking Humphries’ minutes. A cheap off-season signing, Evans was a big part in the Nets finding their form after a tough start. He has not come close to replicating the monster games he had late in the season in the playoffs, but the Bulls are a tough team to dominate the glass against. Ex-Raptor assistant P.J. Carlesimo trusts him, and Evans will continue to play a lot until the Nets are eliminated.

3. Jarrett Jack, guard, Golden State, 95 games as a Raptor
Playoff stats: 2 games, 18.0 PPG, 8.5 RPG, 38 MPG
Jack has had a wonderful year, one that should earn him a nice contract in the off-season. With David Lee’s injury, Jack slid into the starting lineup for Game 2, and scored 26 points and seven assists in the Warriors’ offensive explosion. However, whichever team comes out of the Nuggets-Warriors series seems doomed, just because of injuries.

2. Matt Bonner, forward, San Antonio, 160 games as a Raptor
Playoff stats: 2 games, 10.0 PPG, 5.0 RPG, 29 MPG
Never forget: It is good to be Matt Bonner. The Red Rocket has played a crucial role in both wins over the Lakers, the third player in a three-man frontcourt rotation also including Tim Duncan and Tiago Splitter. Kobe Bryant called him “The Red Mamba” on Twitter. And he continues to get halfhearted compliments from his teammates. “Of course he’s giving Dwight [Howard] a big advantage in size, strength and quickness, and I could keep going,” Spurs guard Manu Ginobili said after Game 2. “But he did a great job getting around him, fronting him from behind.” Long live New Hampshire’s finest.

1. Chris Bosh, forward/centre, Miami, 509 games as a Raptor
Playoff stats: 2 games, 12.5 PPG, 6.5 RPG, 30 MPG
Three words: Count. The. Ring(s).
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Old 04-25-2013, 09:20 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Stoudemire/Billups/Lowry
McGrady/DeRozan/Rose
Carter/Gay/Marion
Bosh/Willis/Davis
Olujawon/JO/Camby
No Rod Strickland or Mark Jackson?


Doug Christie or Alvin Robertson?
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Old 05-05-2013, 05:02 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Jarrett Jack finally made the playoffs, just short of 30 years of age, and he turned it on big time, going way over his regular season averages. 18.8 points, 8 assists, 5.2 rebounds. Great to see.

Jerryd Bayless also averaged better then the regular season with a big 18 point game in a close-out.

And Marco Belinelli had two 20+ games when called upon.

Memphis needs to stop using Daye and Arthur and throw some Ed Davis in there off the bench.
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Old 05-05-2013, 05:16 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Bonner played very well in round 1 also. Played 20+ minutes in all 4 games and shot 75% from beyond the arc.

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Old 05-05-2013, 05:28 PM   #34 (permalink)
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ah yeah - good catch Nites. It happened so long ago I forgot.
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Old 05-27-2013, 12:37 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Bonner playing key minutes against Zach Randolph and playing him very well.

Just a scrub who 'hustles'.

I remember the ridicule that came my way when I suggested Bonner had fantastic foot speed and hand speed as a Raptor.

His feet hardly leave the floor on the defensive end. Small quick steps. Fundamentally sound. High IQ.

I'm not sure he'll find much a role against the Heat though.
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Old 05-28-2013, 01:30 PM   #37 (permalink)
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Bosh is being called Miami's mst important player again.

NBA playoffs 2013: Chris Bosh is most important Miami Heat player - NBA - Ian Thomsen - SI.com

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INDIANAPOLIS -- "I always thought about being The Man," said Chris Bosh, who then invoked a name greater than his alpha-and-omega teammate. "I always wanted to be Jordan. That's what I wanted to be."

The stats say Bosh is not and never will be Jordan -- or LeBron James either. In these playoffs Bosh is averaging 14 points and 7.1 rebounds for Miami. Of far greater importance to Bosh are the championship he helped win last season and the 10 playoff games he has helped the Heat win this season -- and the six more wins they'll need over the weeks ahead.

The funny thing about winning in the NBA is that no one ever seems to understand what it will take until the job is done. Jordan needed seven years to find out. LeBron James learned over a span of nine years. Bosh is playing against a center now, in Indiana's 280-pound Roy Hibbert, who is just beginning to understand how to serve the larger needs of his team.

It made Bosh laugh to think about how he's now having to see the game from Hibbert's point of view. Bosh at 6-foot-11 never wanted to be a center, but here he is in the Eastern finals, three inches shorter and 45 pounds lighter than his assignment.

"One thing I've learned since I've been here is what you really have to sacrifice in order to be on a winning team," said Bosh. "A case in point is guarding Roy Hibbert. If I had my choice, I [wouldn't] want to wrestle with that guy for a whole game. Him and David West? Well, David West I probably have to -- but not Roy Hibbert. But I'm going to have to come in, do my job, do it well in order for us to win."

A steady criticism of Bosh inside and outside the NBA is that he isn't a star on the level of James and Dwyane Wade. But consider the other point of view for Bosh, who averaged in excess of 22 points per game over his final five years with Toronto: If he were intent on proving his stardom, would Miami be on course to win a second championship? The answer, insists coach Erik Spoelstra, is no.

"That's why for three years we've said he's our most important player," said Spoelstra. "Because he had been a proven No. 1 option that had the maturity and ego to be able to accept a totally different role, and a role that was initially uncomfortable for him. We'd put him in so many different places where he hadn't played before. But it took him to be able to accept and adapt to all of that for us to truly unlock our versatility."

After being raised as a young star in an American basketball culture that teaches players to view themselves in terms of their stats, Bosh at 29 has learned to see success from a new perspective. "I had to reprogram myself," he admitted. "You have to submerge yourself in the team, and sometimes it's doing things you don't want to do. It's whatever the team needs, and usually you have to listen to your coach to know what the team needs. You can't be like, well, this is what I'm going to do to help this team. It doesn't work like that."
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"Look, Chris has an ego. He does. You don't become a star in this league without an ego," said Spoelstra. "But he knows how to manage his ego and mold it into a team ego, and he understands that winning is the only thing that matters. He understands that conceptually as well as anybody I've ever been around, and he wants to be part of winning, and he'll do whatever it takes to win. If that's sacrificing and adapting his role, he's absolutely 100 percent for it, and that's very refreshing in this league."

James is unselfish with the ball. Wade stepped aside to surrender leadership to LeBron. Bosh took on a more nuanced role in order to bring out the best in Dwyane and LeBron. Ray Allen comes off the bench in support of Chris, Dwyane and LeBron, and Battier defends a variety of positions in order to liberate them, and on and on it goes.

It was a new way of playing for most of them. Bosh could not be sure their best efforts would be rewarded. Ask him when he believed he had turned the corner on his team-first perspective, and he will start laughing. "When we won last year," he will admit. "You never know."

In fact, he does know. He knows now.
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Bonner playing key minutes against Zach Randolph and playing him very well.

Just a scrub who 'hustles'.

I remember the ridicule that came my way when I suggested Bonner had fantastic foot speed and hand speed as a Raptor.

His feet hardly leave the floor on the defensive end. Small quick steps. Fundamentally sound. High IQ.

I'm not sure he'll find much a role against the Heat though.
Pop is the master at finding space for his players to operate. If anything he's useful against a guy like Haslem.

That was a fantastic trade for both teams in hindsight.
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Some light stuff about Garbojosa at Eurobasket

In The Commentator's Seat: J. Garbajosa | EuroBasket 2013

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IN THE COMMENTATOR'S SEAT: J. GARBAJOSA

Jorge Garbajosa has by far the biggest silverware collection amidst the small army of insightful TV commentators at EuroBasket 2013, bigger even than that of most of the players on the court.

The former Spanish international, a EuroBasket and World Championship winner and Olympic silver medallist with the national team, is currently working for the Spanish Basketball Federation (FEB) and is the expert voice of Spanish TV group Mediaset in Slovenia.

FIBAEurope.com caught up with the Spanish legend to discuss his views on EuroBasket 2013.

Before the tournament started, there was talk in Spain and elsewhere of a competition lacking big stars, what is your impression of it so far?

Right now we have here Marc Gasol, Rudy Fernandez, Sergio Rodriguez, [Vasilis] Spanoulis, [Nenad]Krstic, [Nicolas] Batum, [Tony] Parker and obviously there is no [Dirk] Nowitzki, Pau Gasol or [Andrei] Kirilenko, but there are a lot of good players and, most importantly, good players do not necessarily mean a good team or better basketball. For example Italy, without [Andrea] Bargnani and [Danilo] Gallinari, two of their three star players, are having their best tournament in recent years. So it's easy to talk in advance without reflecting, or without actually watching the games, but the reality is that we can see some very high-level basketball in this tournament.

You only retired from action recently, what have you seen on the court at EuroBasket 2013 through the eyes of a player with the benefit of some distance?

We are watching a tournament where a lot of teams play at an unbelievable physical level, because players are getting better all the time physically. The preparation of tournaments like this is usually based as you know on the defensive level, on offence every team here has some players who can score, but on defence if you show a high level, you have a better chance to win the tournament.

Is the attention to defence a characteristic of this EuroBasket and of the European game?

We talk about differences between the NBA and European basketball sometimes, and for sure there are some, but there are also differences within Europe, between for example the Italian league and the Spanish league. In the USA it is more of an one-on-one game, that is obvious, but I don't think that we are better because we pass the ball more or they are better because they have better one-on-one. It is just a different style of playing basketball and the best thing is to see how European NBA players can adjust to European basketball in this tournament, as we can see here.

Will EuroBasket 2013 be remembered?

For sure it will, every single European championship will always be remembered, but we will see why [this one in particular] only in the last games. The First Round is important, of course all the games are important as teams try to qualify, but they are not playing at 100% yet. That starts in the Second Round and then in the quarter-finals, semi-finals etc, there will be for sure the moments of passion, of tension, of the highest basketball level.

In the opinion of some, Spain are not the favourites in this tournament.

The team does not think about, with all due respect, what the media say or the fans say. They know their level, they know the level of the other teams and they know they have a chance. In the last seven-eight years Spain has played in the final of almost every big tournament and I am talking about EuroBaskets, World Championships, Olympic Games, everything. We understand that we don't have [Juan Carlos] Navarro, Pau [Gasol], [Felipe] Reyes etc. but at the same time we don't think about the ones who are not here, but about who is here, who is healthy and could come to play here. We know that without them (missing players) we lose some talent, but we still have many weapons to compete, to be one of the favourites in this tournament. We know that in order to win we have to make big efforts, but we are here to try to do it.

How do you enjoy a basketball game more, as a player of from the TV commentator's seat?

As a player, for sure! In all honesty when I was a player, even before the most important games, semi-finals or finals or whatever, I was relaxed, I just wanted to compete and play my best basketball. But now the whole day before the game, even on the night before, you are trying to see if the guys are healthy, if they are happy and you can help in other ways but not on the court, which had been my natural environment for almost 20 years.
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This picture makes me queasy and u don't even have the scrubs on there damn i feel sorry for our franchise.You know its crazy when Belineli is one of the best players currently in this dedication
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