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RAPMAN 11-08-2013 10:35 AM

Same Old Bargnani
 
Looks like Bargnani is having the same effect on the Knicks.

"Golliver: The Clippers’ beautiful inverse (No. 2 in offensive efficiency, No. 29 in defensive efficiency) is a very strong candidate on the team level, but nothing tops the sheer comedy of Bargnani’s opening week. The summer months dragged on, and it seems like 100,000 or more words were written about how terrible and desperate the Knicks were for agreeing to take Bargnani after his pathetic 2012-13 season with the Raptors. What happens next? Bargnani’s early play blows away all of those predictions — but in the wrong direction! He was even more horrid than even the most ardent detractors feared.

His opening week on/off numbers really should be framed and sent to Springfield: According to NBA.com, the Knicks’ offensive efficiency falls from 99.3 when he’s off the court to 93.4 when he’s on the court and their defensive rating drops from 84.5 when he sits to a preposterous 116.2 when he plays. In simpler terms, Bargnani takes New York from an average offense to a bottom-five offense, while also dropping the Knicks from league-best to league-worst (by a freaking mile) levels on defense. You look at those numbers and wonder whether coach Mike Woodson would have been better served by simply playing 4-on-5 when it was Bargnani’s turn in the rotation."

Give And Go: Examining highs, lows from the opening week of the NBAseason | The Point Forward - SI.com

jeffb 11-08-2013 10:52 AM

Makes you wonder if he's on his final NBA contract. He'll be able to get more money in Europe.

creative1mm 11-08-2013 10:58 AM

and it's a terrible system for him as well..
put Bargnanni in a Popavinch system and he would play better. The Knicks are no different then how the Atlanta Hawks usedto be.. an offence with no structure.. just a bunch of chuckers

creative1mm 11-08-2013 11:00 AM

and it's a terrible system for him as well..
put Bargnanni in a Popavinch system and he would play better. The Knicks are no different then how the Atlanta Hawks usedto be.. and offence with no discipline.. and then you have their best player in Carmello who just takes jump shots and plays freely out there.. not a good team for Bargs

but they always seem to take are leftovers..

LOG 11-08-2013 11:32 AM

Even though I find it amusing to see how much he sucks in New York (I hate Knicks!) He is not as bad some make him out to be. Bargs is a bench player at this point, and if used right I think he could be good 6-7th player

just4_raps 11-08-2013 12:02 PM

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their defensive rating drops from 84.5 when he sits to a preposterous 116.2 when he plays
GROSS :dead:

LX 11-08-2013 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by creative1mm (Post 828352)
and it's a terrible system for him as well..
put Bargnanni in a Popavinch system and he would play better. The Knicks are no different then how the Atlanta Hawks usedto be.. an offence with no structure.. just a bunch of chuckers

He would not play worse. That is for sure. Because he would not play. I don't know how anyone could have ever seen Andrea play and think he could be used in a system that insists on taking very good shots and not allowing opposing offenses to take their best shots.

firecasey2013 11-08-2013 12:22 PM

HAH

Raptorman 11-08-2013 12:27 PM

The Knicks are fun to watch again!!! :cookie::cookie:

rapsmannn 11-08-2013 02:18 PM

its seems like he just wants to go back to Europe, that he has had enough, it is even worse as a knick then a raptor, and that's saying something

fantapoppa 11-08-2013 02:48 PM

Quick and nutritious, simply delicious, everyone knows its Primo

LX 11-08-2013 03:15 PM

The Knicks had their first players-only meeting after the loss to Charlotte.

ZanTheMan 11-08-2013 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by LX (Post 828397)
The Knicks had their first players-only meeting after the loss to Charlotte.

And nobody told Bargnani :cookie:

LX 11-08-2013 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ZanTheMan (Post 828403)
And nobody told Bargnani :cookie:

I imagine they had a lot to tell him. But he probably just took it as an annual ritual.

TORaptor4Ever 11-08-2013 04:04 PM

But.... but... but... he's the next Dirk! One of the best scorers in the game! He just needs a chance, c'mon guys!!! :cookie:

bozonic 11-08-2013 04:17 PM

I think the Knocks should hire Richie Incognito to toughen up Il Muggo ...just sayin:woohoo::woohoo:

Kirby 11-08-2013 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TORaptor4Ever (Post 828407)
But.... but... but... he's the next Dirk! One of the best scorers in the game! He just needs a chance, c'mon guys!!! :cookie:

this is the type of thing I said on the Knicks forum before I got this the other day :D
http://gyazo.com/c79d60d85cdf0b4d3b7938aabd6e90d8.png

LX 11-08-2013 10:23 PM

He had a monster night. 25 points. 8 rebounds. 5 blocks.

If only he could guard Biyombo every night with little need to help anywhere else.

ZanTheMan 11-09-2013 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by LX (Post 828690)
He had a monster night. 25 points. 8 rebounds. 5 blocks.

If only he could guard Biyombo every night with little need to help anywhere else.

Why, so he could make us look bad for trading his ass?
No thanks! :cookie:

TORaptor4Ever 11-09-2013 09:12 AM

Such a tease.


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