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Old 07-01-2011, 09:25 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Last time, I think Allen Houston was involved.... if I remember correctly. You can't have teams declaring their most important pieces free from the cap.. it's unfair to teams without max players.



It's in wikipedia.... how can you not trust a site in which everyone can add to?
it was called the allan houston rule because everyone thought the knicks would use it to rid themselves of that moster bad deal, but they didn't. they figured (correctly) that houston would retire due to injuries within the next 2 years. instead they used it on jerome williams.

the amnesty clause, at the time, was definitely about ridding themselves of both the contract and the player. i would be shocked if teams would be allowed to keep the player this time. that's not an amnesty clause, that's just cap exception.
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from larry coon's lockout faq:

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The same proposal that included a hard cap also included salary rollbacks (reductions in existing salaries of 15 to 25 percent) and an amnesty provision, which would allow teams to waive one player without cap consequences. These provisions would have softened the blow of a hard cap, and additional rules likely would have accommodated teams in other ways.
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If there is a hard cap, will the league provide teams with an amnesty clause? How would it work?
The 2005 CBA included a clause referred to as the "Luxury Tax Amnesty Provision." It allowed teams to waive one player whose salary would then be excluded from the team's luxury tax calculations. This clause was added because the league changed its luxury tax system in the 2005 agreement. Teams made their roster decisions based on the terms of the 1999 agreement, and might have planned differently had the 2005 rules been in place at the time. The provision was seen as a way of accommodating teams that may have been impacted by these rule changes.

This year the league wants to change more than just the luxury tax system -- it wants to make fundamental changes to the salary-cap system itself. Depending on how the negotiations turn out, these changes could be as severe as implementing a hard cap with which teams must immediately comply.

If the league makes a fundamental change to the salary-cap rules, it is expected to follow suit with another amnesty provision to accommodate the impacted teams. Such a provision would likely allow teams to waive one player, whose salary would then be excluded from the team's salary-cap calculations. The player would still be paid in full -- for example, Orlando couldn't use such a provision to escape its commitment to pay Gilbert Arenas the $62.3 million he is owed over the next three seasons.

The owners' proposal which included a $45 million hard cap reportedly also included such a provision. But the final determination won't be made until the two sides actually come to terms on a new agreement. The specific workings of an amnesty provision -- or whether a provision is included at all -- ultimately will depend on the changes that are made to the salary-cap system. It's possible that the next agreement will include an amnesty provision that can be used on more than one player, or can be used more than once during the lifetime of the agreement.
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and here's the list of players from the last amnesty provision (from coon's salary cap faq):

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The actual list of players on whom the amnesty provision was used is (* = players who were previously waived): Derek Anderson (Blazers), Vin Baker* (Celtics), Troy Bell* (Grizzlies), Calvin Booth (Bucks), Doug Christie (Magic), Derrick Coleman* (Pistons), Howard Eisley* (Suns), Michael Finley (Mavericks), Brian Grant (Lakers), Fred Hoiberg (Timberwolves), Aaron McKie (76ers), Ron Mercer (Nets), Reggie Miller* (Pacers), Alonzo Mourning* (Raptors), Wesley Person* (Heat), Eddie Robinson* (Bulls), Clarence Weatherspoon (Rockets), Jerome Williams (Knicks). The Bobcats, Cavs, Clippers, Hawks, Hornets, Jazz, Kings, Nuggets, Sonics, Spurs, Warriors and Wizards did not utilize this provision.
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and an amnesty provision, which would allow teams to waive one player without cap consequences.

Goodbye Jose if that happens.
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if we miss this whole season, jose would only have 1 year left. he might have more value as an expiring deal than just waiving him to create space.
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if we miss this whole season, jose would only have 1 year left. he might have more value as an expiring deal than just waiving him to create space.
True. Perhaps because of his injury issues Kleiza would be the one, i think he's still owed around 14-15Mil. I also don't think they'd use it on Bargnani either.
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