Rule changes: Review a Charge, Clear path, and others. (5 rules)
Old 07-18-2013, 09:51 PM   #1 (permalink)
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NBA Board of Governors approves five rules changes | NBA.com

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Instant replay may now be used:
When reviewing a block/charge play to determine whether the defender was inside or outside the restricted area, officials will now be permitted to reverse a charge call, or uphold a blocking call, when the defender was outside the restricted area but was not set when the offensive player began his upward shooting motion.
To determine whether an off-ball foul occurred before or after a player has started his shooting motion on a successful shot attempt, or before or after the ball was released on a throw-in.
During the review of any instant replay situation to permit the officials to assess the appropriate penalties of any unsportsmanlike and unnecessary acts (e.g. flagrant fouls) that are observed during the instant replay reviews.

Additional rules modifications:
On clear path to the basket fouls, it will no longer be considered a clear path foul if at any point before the foul is committed, the defender who commits the foul is positioned ahead of the offensive player in the frontcourt.
A team on offense will lose possession if its player leaves the floor and does not immediately return to the floor, unless he is injured, attempting to save the ball or in other extenuating circumstances.

Each of these rules was recommended by the NBA's Competition Committee at its meeting on June 12.
Does that last bit mean a person isn't allowed to stand outside of the line like under the basket anymore? Cause you're (or were I guess) able to run there and no picks or contact is allowed on that player? And in 2k it makes it easy to get some offensive rebounds
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Five rule changes for 2013-14 - Brooklyn Nets Blog - ESPN New York

The new rules changes:

The first three involve instant replay, which now be can used:
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When reviewing a block/charge play to determine whether the defender was inside or outside the restricted area, officials will now be permitted to reverse a charge call, or uphold a blocking call, when the defender was outside the restricted area but was not set when the offensive player began his upward shooting motion.
To determine whether an off-ball foul occurred before or after a player has started his shooting motion on a successful shot attempt, or before or after the ball was released on a throw-in.

During the review of any instant replay situation to permit the officials to assess the appropriate penalties of any unsportsmanlike and unnecessary acts (e.g. flagrant fouls) that are observed during the instant replay reviews.


Additional rules modifications include:

On clear path to the basket fouls, it will no longer be considered a clear path foul if at any point before the foul is committed the defender who commits the foul is positioned ahead of the offensive player in the frontcourt.
A team on offense will lose possession if its player leaves the floor and does not immediately return to the floor, unless he is injured, attempting to save the ball or in other extenuating circumstances.

The people approving this need to be fired immediately. Do they not even think to themselves that now there's going to be stoppage essentially every 2nd play to review something, or because there's a foul called? The block/charge call is imperfect even after reviewing it because there's so many factors to consider. If they review every one of these calls the games are going to be unbearable. They need to rescind this before the season starts.
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Just posted it before you but true it does slow down the tempo of the game... but atleast the right calls will be made.
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It's all about the ad revenue available during these reviews
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Just posted it before you but true it does slow down the tempo of the game... but atleast the right calls will be made.
I just dont believe that. Again, there's so many factors in a lot of the block/charge calls that you can make a case for either for a lot of plays. Was the defensive player set before the offensive player took off toward the rim? Were they completely square?

It's a judgement a lot of the time, and there's so many of these plays during the game it's going to kill any flow the game has. The game is already stopped enough with all of the fouls and 3 minute commercials, its going to be unbearable now.

The funnest games to watch are the free flowing ones with low fouls and limited contact called. This is going to kill that for sure.
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It doesn't ensure the right call gets made. It ensures a somewhat iffy call gets made and then often gets called inconclusive on the review. There's nothing wrong with keeping something of a human element in the game, and that means trained human eyes judging in a flawed, but proficient human manner. I really hate the reviews of obvious three point makes. How can three guys not see feet that are six inches beyond the line or more, and simply be ok with that?

I'd be ok with challenges. Very few challenges. But even with that you will get lazy calls or non-calls, because the refs will be happy to put the impetus on the coaches to call for a review. It's a curse. If they are so hell-bent on slowing games to a crawl, they are really going to need to look at drastically reducing time-outs.
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It's all about the ad revenue available during these reviews
were gonna get more hockey ads than actual basketball
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Actually, it doesnt say whether block/charge calls will be reviewed the entire game or just in the last 2 minutes of quarters. Has anyone found an article clarifying this?
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Television likes instant replays. "We'll be back after this quick break."
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When reviewing a block/charge play to determine whether the defender was inside or outside the restricted area, officials will now be permitted to reverse a charge call, or uphold a blocking call, when the defender was outside the restricted area but was not set when the offensive player began his upward shooting motion.
not a fan - the nba needs to draw the line with replay - no more. It's getting out of hand.

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To determine whether an off-ball foul occurred before or after a player has started his shooting motion on a successful shot attempt, or before or after the ball was released on a throw-in.
The fact that this rule is being implemented through instant replay makes me cringe. This is telling me that now, when DeAndre Jordan is getting fouled intentionally off the ball, and Chris Paul is timing a shot to coincide with the foul by launching it from 3-quarter court - the officials will now be obliged to go to replay and award 3 shots - plus - 1 shot for DeAndre. The officials aren't calling this play because they don't want to - they know it's wack. Let the officials decide to start calling it, as the rules already dictate that they maybe should depending on interpretation, rather than having players point to the fucking replay desk begging for calls. Horrible.

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During the review of any instant replay situation to permit the officials to assess the appropriate penalties of any unsportsmanlike and unnecessary acts (e.g. flagrant fouls) that are observed during the instant replay reviews.
I guess if replay has a place in the game -this is it.

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On clear path to the basket fouls, it will no longer be considered a clear path foul if at any point before the foul is committed, the defender who commits the foul is positioned ahead of the offensive player in the frontcourt.
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A team on offense will lose possession if its player leaves the floor and does not immediately return to the floor, unless he is injured, attempting to save the ball or in other extenuating circumstances.
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Old 07-19-2013, 09:48 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Being a professional official strikes me as an occupation where self-responsibility / accountability should be held to the highest standards. Instant replay is like saying....don't worry about it if you don't get it right the first time - you don't need to.


This just pisses me off more and more. Pro sports should have learned when Tom Brady fumbled on a pass fake and it got overturned.

I see no positive outcome from the block/charge replay. It really disappoints me as a basketball fan.

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