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jeffb 02-29-2012 09:29 PM

Rondo for Curry has been discussed
 
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The Warriors and Celtics had trade talks involving Rajon Rondo for Stephen Curry in December, but it was Golden State that decided not to do the deal.

Boston has looked for several trades involving Rondo since the end of the lockout and continue to shop him aggressively, according to sources.

NBA - Superstars Dwight Howard, Pau Gasol, Rajon Rondo could be traded - ESPN

LOG 02-29-2012 09:32 PM

Rondo or Curry to TO!

Dario 02-29-2012 09:32 PM

If im GS im keeping Curry, and maybe trading ellis, they need a bigger SG, even tho Ellis is a beast.

LX 02-29-2012 09:32 PM

The warriors are probably a little bit afraid of the fragile wheels on curry.

Don Vito 02-29-2012 09:35 PM

Why are the celtics desperately trying to trade Rondo? Curry won't lead a bunch of vets to a championship.

TORaptor4Ever 02-29-2012 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Don Vito (Post 621329)
Why are the celtics desperately trying to trade Rondo? Curry won't lead a bunch of vets to a championship.

If Curry's ankle is good I think it's a great trade for the Celts TBH.

Curry's a smart player and he can flat-out SHOOT it. With him, Allen and Pierce they'd be DEADLY from 3.

GS might benefit too from adding some perimeter D. Rondo doesn't need shots either and is good at feeding shooters.

carp 02-29-2012 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by LX (Post 621325)
The warriors are probably a little bit afraid of the fragile wheels on curry.

That's exactly the issue.... 6 months ago this kid was absolutely untouchable. Much like koko, may buyer b.ware.

0nekhmer 02-29-2012 10:07 PM

i really don't get why they want to trade Rondo THIS badly. He is a great young PG who plays stellar D. Just can't shoot

Dark Knight 02-29-2012 10:13 PM

What Rondo trade scenario hasn't been discussed? Like seriously, it seems like the Celtics will do anything to get him out of town. :cookie:

Blaze 03-01-2012 12:24 AM

Bring him here! Ed, Caldy and filler should do it.

jeffb 03-01-2012 09:08 AM

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"Boston is aggressively shopping Rondo, according to sources. The Celtics find Rondo’s personality to be too high-maintenance and his clashes with coach Doc Rivers continue. With the Celtics having realized they are no longer title contenders, they don’t believe the payoff is worth the headaches Rondo brings, sources say. And they do not want to build around him."

Report: Celtics ?aggressively? shopping Rajon Rondo | ProBasketballTalk

TORaptor4Ever 03-01-2012 10:37 AM

Wow. I would love to know what they clash about.... guy plays D, runs the offense and is unselfish to a fault. Weird....

I'd still give them Jose and our pick (or Ed) for him in heartbeat.

carp 03-01-2012 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by TORaptor4Ever (Post 621515)
Wow. I would love to know what they clash about.... guy plays D, runs the offense and is unselfish to a fault. Weird....

I'd still give them Jose and our pick (or Ed) for him in heartbeat.

I'd easily give them ed and jose..... the pick and jose seems like it could be either good or bad value, but I'd do it. I might even do all three if push came to shove!

Acie 03-01-2012 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by TORaptor4Ever (Post 621515)
Wow. I would love to know what they clash about.... guy plays D, runs the offense and is unselfish to a fault. Weird....

I'd still give them Jose and our pick (or Ed) for him in heartbeat.

Have you had your head in the sand for the last 6 or 7 years?

This is why he dropped in the draft, that's why his teammates hated him in his rookie season, this is why they're looking to trade him...

Dude is uncoachable, has a bad attitude, thinks quite highly of himself, has a temper (I believe he threw a water bottle through a TV in the locker room when Doc tried to give him some advice), is a bad teammate who points fingers and blames others for his on court mistakes, etc.

TORaptor4Ever 03-01-2012 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Acie (Post 621520)
Have you had your head in the sand for the last 6 or 7 years?

This is why he dropped in the draft, that's why his teammates hated him in his rookie season, this is why they're looking to trade him...

Dude is uncoachable, has a bad attitude, has a temper (I believe he threw a water bottle through a TV in the locker room when Doc tried to give him some advice), is a bad teammate who points fingers and blames others for his on court mistakes, etc.

Really? I thought he dropped in the draft because he couldn't shoot worth a lick and teams weren't sure that he had enough to make it at the next level.....

The reality of the situation is this: We're not getting Rose, DWill or Paul. We MAY have the chance at a PG just below that tier who's won a ring and is a stellar defender, competitor and distributor (and he's still fairly young).

I take my chances on a guy like that in a heartbeat... warts and all. What I've seen from him on the court is what matters. I'm sure that Anthony Carter is a swell guy and a coach's dream but talent is talent... and Rondo has WAY more.

Acie 03-01-2012 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by TORaptor4Ever (Post 621525)
Really? I thought he dropped in the draft because he couldn't shoot worth a lick and teams weren't sure that he had enough to make it at the next level.....

The reality of the situation is this: We're not getting Rose, DWill or Paul. We MAY have the chance at a PG just below that tier who's won a ring and is a stellar defender, competitor and distributor (and he's still fairly young).

I take my chances on a guy like that in a heartbeat... warts and all. What I've seen from him on the court is what matters. I'm sure that Anthony Carter is a swell guy and a coach's dream but talent is talent... and Rondo has WAY more.


Yeah, great comparison. Anthony Carter or Rondo...duh. Rondo is not going to be replacing our 36 year old 3rd string PG.

I don't care how much talent he has, although I actually prefer a PG who doesn't have Shaq like FT numbers...bringing in a guy like him at the price the Celts would be asking would prove disasterous for a young rebuilding team like the Raps. Not only in the assets we'd be forced to dole out, but the effect he would have in the locker room. And I'm sure you will take him warts and all after what you've seen, but you don't think if a guy like Doc Rivers who has played and coached in the NBA for nearly 30 years, Danny Ainge who's seen and done it all in the NBA and three future HOF teammates can't get through to him and are ready to wave the white flag that he's ever going to change.

TORaptor4Ever 03-01-2012 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Acie (Post 621535)
Yeah, great comparison. Anthony Carter or Rondo...duh. Rondo is not going to be replacing our 36 year old 3rd string PG.

I don't care how much talent he has, although I actually prefer a PG who doesn't have Shaq like FT numbers...bringing in a guy like him at the price the Celts would be asking would prove disasterous for a young rebuilding team like the Raps. Not only in the assets we'd be forced to dole out, but the effect he would have in the locker room. And I'm sure you will take him warts and all after what you've seen, but you don't think if a guy like Doc Rivers who has played and coached in the NBA for nearly 30 years, Danny Ainge who's seen and done it all in the NBA and three future HOF teammates can't get through to him and are ready to wave the white flag that he's ever going to change.

Ripping on Rondo for his FTs is weak given everything else that he brings to the table. Maybe you're OK with going foward with Bayless at the PG spot... I'm not. I love Jose but I know that he's not in our future plans. Rondo is a clear upgrade at that spot and fits in with our coach's defense-first mentality. Not sure how it gets any better than that.

Players can change when they're put in a new situation. Happens all the time. I know that quite a few of us were skeptical about Beasley because of the rumours about him but as far as I know he's been great for Minny. Bargs sucked donkey balls for YEARS on the defensive end and had the intensity of a wet blanket until Casey came in and reached him.

When you have the chance to grab solid talent at arguably the most important position on the floor you take it.

dfunkie1 03-01-2012 12:28 PM

whatever it takes to get rondo, i'd consider it. i don't know if their willingness to trade him is due to them having old bodies and a lack of assets, or because of maturity issues. his age and contract are a definite plus in my books.

Acie 03-01-2012 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by TORaptor4Ever (Post 621544)
Ripping on Rondo for his FTs is weak given everything else that he brings to the table. Maybe you're OK with going foward with Bayless at the PG spot... I'm not. I love Jose but I know that he's not in our future plans. Rondo is a clear upgrade at that spot and fits in with our coach's defense-first mentality. Not sure how it gets any better than that.

Players can change when they're put in a new situation. Happens all the time. I know that quite a few of us were skeptical about Beasley because of the rumours about him but as far as I know he's been great for Minny. Bargs sucked donkey balls for YEARS on the defensive end and had the intensity of a wet blanket until Casey came in and reached him.

When you have the chance to grab solid talent at arguably the most important position on the floor you take it.

Yes, going forward Bayless is our only option....*sigh*

Beasley wasn't as destructive a teammate, he likes to smoke pot and not suprisingly, he's been caught doing it again while in Minny and they are now looking to trade him.

How did a change of scenery work for Isaiah Rider?

Listen, just because you have a hard on for a guy doesn't mean you shouldn't try and objectively look at the situation. Are you prepared to gut the roster and give up say JV and or/DD, an unprotected lottery pick or two and Barbosa? For a guy that's going to potentially come in and fued with the coach, anger and alienate his teammates and isn't even an elite player at his position. It's a gamble I wouldn't be prepared to take.

INSIDER 03-01-2012 12:48 PM

Rondo is one player i'd be willing to look past attitude and chemistry for. he's a top 5 PG, who's young and full of potential. IMO, he's a game changer, and is worth the risk.
the sad truth is that we stink. We could have the greatest chemistry in the world, but it doesnt mean squat if we lose 50 games. build a team around him and allow him to grow into a leader role and i think he loses that chip on his shoulder and turns that corner into a very good teamate.


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