Is Ricky Rubio worth the Trouble?
Old 08-16-2009, 11:05 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Is he commited to playing with the T'Wolves? Is he even going to be playing in the NBA? Is He worth the trouble or is he just another spoiled European player?

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The Timberwolves and representatives for guard Ricky Rubio are reportedly still working to get the guard to the NBA this coming season.

The Pioneer Press is reporting that Rubio already has $600,000 in endorsements lined up should he join Minnesota.

Rubio's DKV Joventut contract has a $6.6 million buyout, but the number is expected to be negotiated down significantly.
RealGM: Basketball Wiretap Archives: Wolves, Rubio Still Trying To Negotiate Buyout

Minnesota (being my second favourite team) should trade away Rubio as he's not worth all the trrouble and Flynn is better.
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Old 08-16-2009, 11:43 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Minnesota (being my second favourite team) should trade away Rubio as he's not worth all the trrouble and Flynn is better.
The Minnesota Timberwolves are your second favourite team?
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Ummm....what do you mean by "another spoiled European player?"

Secondly, yes he is worth the trouble. Everything I've seen of him, tells me, he's a very good PG and better than Flynn right now. Rubio has played against men and proven himself more than capable.
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The Minnesota Timberwolves are your second favourite team?
Hahaha, I know they suck but I just like the T'Wolves. What I mean by another spoiled European, lots of european guys just think that thewy can waltz into the NBA and become a houehold name. If they don't like the money, they just go to Europe for more money.
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Hahaha, I know they suck but I just like the T'Wolves. What I mean by another spoiled European, lots of european guys just think that thewy can waltz into the NBA and become a houehold name. If they don't like the money, they just go to Europe for more money.
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JJ Barea coudn't handle the pressure, Milicic didn't expect that much change. Well now that you mention it, there aren't that many guys like that. Sorry for the previous comment. There are a few and I think Rubio might be one of them.
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Milicic sucks and is crazy, that doesnt mean he though he would become a household name when he arrived in the NBA. Barea is Puerto Rican and a decent player. Rubio is a really humble kid, he wants to play in the NBA, even in the Wolves. Its the buyout that doesnt let him move. He will probably stay here for a couple of years and then go when theres no buyout.
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Milicic sucks and is crazy, that doesnt mean he though he would become a household name when he arrived in the NBA. Barea is Puerto Rican and a decent player. Rubio is a really humble kid, he wants to play in the NBA, even in the Wolves. Its the buyout that doesnt let him move. He will probably stay here for a couple of years and then go when theres no buyout.
I heard some rumors he doesn't want to play with the Wolves. Then again, the same rumors occured around the time of Derozan's signing. 'm just hoping the Wolves can finally start a successful rebuilding process.
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rubio comes across as a brat. how humble is throwing a hissy because he got drafted by the wolves? sure, he later said that he has no problem with playing for the wolves, but that's the beauty of having an agent.

i think the wolves are better off with flynn anyways. never caught the hype with rubio. i'd rather have jennings as well.
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rubio comes across as a brat. how humble is throwing a hissy because he got drafted by the wolves? sure, he later said that he has no problem with playing for the wolves, but that's the beauty of having an agent.

i think the wolves are better off with flynn anyways. never caught the hype with rubio. i'd rather have jennings as well.
Agree, Flynn is more athletic and overall, he brings a lot more to the floor, I think he's more NBA ready than Rubio.
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Old 08-16-2009, 02:06 PM   #11 (permalink)
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well, thats your opinion, a wrong opinion though. The kid is one of the most humble kids I have seen, specially knowing how much hyped has surrounded him since he was 14. Its a different culture. Outside of the USA you can choose what team you want to play for, and his AmericanU agent(Dan Fegan) told him he could. Knowing he was going to pay millions from his own pocket to play in the NBA, I completelly understand that he tried to play for a team of his desire, also knowing he wanted a team with a bigger market (only teams he didnt want were Memphis and Minny)only to be able to pay for a 8 million dollar buyout.

I dont think he did things right, his Agent and his parents are the most to blame, but calling him is a brat is simply not right because it couldnt be further from the truth.
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If we're on the topic of "european players who are selfish" etc etc, one name comes to my mind above all others. Fran Vasquez the Spaniard, from what I recall, was drafted by the Magic in or near the top 10 (i think 12th actually) and then decided to stay in Europe. On this current day, he has yet to make a single appearance for the Magic and they wasted a lottery pick on false pretenses. I know that lottery picks are often wasted on players who are busts, namely (Hoffa). But, I think it's ridiculous when players put themselves in the draft and then decide they don't want to play.

There is a possibility that Vasquez was of a certain age where he was forced to throw his name in the draft. Though he showed up in NY on draft night, took a cap and shook Stern's hand, so he at least to the naked eye made it seem as if he was seriously considering the NBA.
I can guarantee that Rubio is not in a similar position to Vasquez if that is what occurred to him.
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if that's true and rubio didn't know anything about the draft before entering it, maybe he wouldn't look like such a brat, but he does. how could he not understand it? did not enter the draft being a top three prospect? was their a major market outside of LA (clippers at that) selecting before new york? no. if he's not a brat, he's an idiot. fair enough?
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and his AmericanU agent(Dan Fegan) told him he could. Knowing he was going to pay millions from his own pocket to play in the NBA, I completelly understand that he tried to play for a team of his desire,
I highly doubt his agent told him that he could choice where he wanted to play in the NBA. Explaining the NBA's draft process would be an integral part of having a player place their name in the draft. If he wants to play in the NBA, he may have desire to play for a specific few teams, but he cannot attempt to manipulate the situation to go where he wanted to go. It's the nature of the NBA's selection process and what you are saying yourself is a selfish pursuit. He wants to play for a team of his liking, rather than go to any team as part of the process. In addition, he wants a specific team to help him with his buyout, as if this is the NBA's problem. He should have never signed that deal in the first place.
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Where did I say he didnt know how the draft worked?. He perfectly knew how it worked. Im saying that outside the US, trying to go to a team you like is not seen as a brat. Im saying he was told by his agent he could get him to go to a place were he could get more money for his buyout. Dan Fegan, the same guy that brought Yi Yinlian, and he again screw up with Rubio , and started playing hard with the teams. He played so hard that teams decided to pass on him fearing he wouldnt go. That meant less money from the contract because of a lower pick position. That meant going to a team thats struggling big time, that meant no money from comercials and such. And that has meant no NBA for Rubio in two years because he doesnt have money to pay the buy out.

Again I dont see how you can call a brat to an 18 year old kid who right now earns ninety thousand euros a year thats willing to pay millions of dollars to play in the NBA.

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Where did I say he didnt know how the draft worked?. He perfectly knew how it worked. Im saying that outside the US, trying to go to a team you like is not seen as a brat. Im saying he was told by his agent he could get him to go to a place were he could get more money for his buyout. Dan Fegan, the same guy that brought Yi Yinlian, and he again screw up with Rubio , and started playing hard with the teams. He played so hard that teams decided to pass on him fearing he wouldnt go. That meant less money from the contract because of a lower pick position. That meant going to a team thats struggling big time, that meant no money from comercials and such. And that has meant no NBA for Rubio in two years because he doesnt have money to pay the buy out.

Again I dont see how you can call a brat to an 18 year old kid who right now earns ninety thousand euros a year thats willing to pay millions of dollars to play in the NBA.


dan fegan is the devil

rubio is sweet innocent little victim

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I highly doubt his agent told him that he could choice where he wanted to play in the NBA. Explaining the NBA's draft process would be an integral part of having a player place their name in the draft. If he wants to play in the NBA, he may have desire to play for a specific few teams, but he cannot attempt to manipulate the situation to go where he wanted to go. It's the nature of the NBA's selection process and what you are saying yourself is a selfish pursuit. He wants to play for a team of his liking, rather than go to any team as part of the process. In addition, he wants a specific team to help him with his buyout, as if this is the NBA's problem. He should have never signed that deal in the first place.
Vazquez is a hole different story. He is weird guy.

He didnt sign the buyout, his parents screw up and signed it when he was 14. Rubio had to demand the team alleging how disproportioned was what he earned (90000 euros a year) to the buyout (6 million euros)
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rubio is sweet innocent little victim

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yep, he is a sweet innocent victim. I see thats the only answer you have since you were talking about something you had no idea about. Or maybe it is that you like to contradict everything I say in every thread. Reminds me of someone you hate in this website.
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I don't think it's fair to say that outside the USA, a player who wants to go to a team of his choice while contractually obliged, is not considered a brat. The soccer system over there is similar to the basketball system, in terms of perception of fans and other elements as well. Therefore, I'll use the a few examples from the football world to illustrate my point. Cristiano Ronaldo desired to go to Real Madrid for the last three years (apparently a lifetime) and he was always labeled a brat for that amongst other things. Franck Ribery is in a similar position with Bayern Munchen and he has received the same response and is considered selfish and "anti-club".
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They are considered "brats" because they theorically left a team that pays them well and will earn titles, not because they choose a team they liked. Would you lose respect for someone simply for chosing Liverpool over Man U, Real or Barsa?

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