Ricky Rubio signs a 6yr contract with Barcelona
Old 08-26-2009, 01:17 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Boy this guy really doesn't want to play in Minnesota. lol

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Ricky Rubio, the 5th pick of the Minnesota Timberwolves in this year's draft, has agreed to terms on a contract with Regal Barcelona.

The Spanish team will pay a buyout of 3.7 million Euros, approximately $5.3 million, to Rubio's previous team, Joventut.

Rubio will sign a six-year agreement that contains an affordable buyout in 2011.
RealGM: Basketball Wiretap Archives: Rubio Signs With Regal Barcelona, Affordable Buyout In 2011

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Old 08-26-2009, 01:19 PM   #2 (permalink)
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why did Minny draft him again?
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Going to assume that Jim Stack isn't at his best right now.
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whats the buyout going to look like in 2011?
and if he comes to the NBA in '11 does he have to sign a rookie scale contract based on his pick or is he an RFA (Minny hasn't signed him to a contract but they hold his rights)
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minnesota just end up looking like morons right about now.
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Old 08-26-2009, 01:38 PM   #6 (permalink)
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minnesota just end up looking like morons right about now.
That ship sailed 2 months ago.
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Whatever now Rubio has just ruined his dreams of playing in the NBA. Now we know why Minny drafted Flynn as well
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Minnesota did the right thing. They took the best player available. They have an asset. Let Rubio stay in Spain another 2 years, get a lot of playing time and if the T'Wolves show signs of improvment, you know Ricky's gonna want to come over.
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I think there needs to be a re-form or something in NBA draft rules, so things like this don't happen. It's pathetic.
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they still have jonny flynn don't they?
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I think there needs to be a re-form or something in NBA draft rules, so things like this don't happen. It's pathetic.
Agreed.

It sounds so elementry. Is there some kind of logic behind why they don't have a rule that prevents this type of situation from happening?

It just seems so simple to add a rule to the draft that states you must not be contractually bounded to a team come training camp to be eligible for the draft.
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Although there remains a strong possibility that Ricky Rubio will play in Spain rather than Minneapolis next season, a Spanish media report Wednesday of his agreement to a six-year deal with FC Barcelona was overstated, a knowledgeable NBA source told ESPN.com.

The Spanish newspaper Marca said Regal FC Barcelona had agreed to pay Rubio's former team, DKV Joventut, 3.7 million Euros ($5.28 million U.S.) for the rights to the 18-year-old playmaker who was taken by the Minnesota Timberwolves with the fifth pick of June's NBA draft.

"Ricky Rubio hasn't signed anything. Joventut hasn't accepted anything. It's not over yet," said the source, who was briefed early Wednesday on the ever-changing landscape of the protracted, trans-Atlantic Rubio saga.
Source: Ricky Rubio to Barcelona not a done deal yet - ESPN
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Agreed.

It sounds so elementry. Is there some kind of logic behind why they don't have a rule that prevents this type of situation from happening?

It just seems so simple to add a rule to the draft that states you must not be contractually bounded to a team come training camp to be eligible for the draft.

You gotta be kidding, right? There is a whole world behind North America and NBA... NBA teams have the most assets to work with on the world, every team has couple of scouts in Europe alone i guess, etc. it should not be a problem for them, yet shit happens... who is to blame for that? rest of the world for not bending their asses to the mighty NBA?

It might seem so simple to add that kind of a rule, but guess what, it aint gonna happen. - who invented Capitalism and is trying their best to implement it to the rest of the world? Live with it, when i make a bad call in my company nobody is gonna be there, it shouldnt be any different in any other line of work, and it isnt.
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NBA is the most prestige league in the world. If they want to play in the NBA they shouldn't be under contract when they enter the draft. What would be the logic behind not having that rule.
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You gotta be kidding, right? There is a whole world behind North America and NBA... NBA teams have the most assets to work with on the world, every team has couple of scouts in Europe alone i guess, etc. it should not be a problem for them, yet shit happens... who is to blame for that? rest of the world for not bending their asses to the mighty NBA?

It might seem so simple to add that kind of a rule, but guess what, it aint gonna happen. - who invented Capitalism and is trying their best to implement it to the rest of the world? Live with it, when i make a bad call in my company nobody is gonna be there, it shouldnt be any different in any other line of work, and it isnt.
Umm...tell it to the apologists.

Say Minnesota hadn't traded up to acquire Johnny Flynn. With Rubio gone they now have no new fresh blood to even begin to build a winning team with, and essentially waste a year. They'd have been in relatively the same position as they were the year before, which means more losses and the opportunity cost of millions of dollars of revenue down the drain.

This has nothing to do with the NBA "stealing" players from Europe or the European leagues bending over backwards to cater to the NBA. This is about European players being fair to the NBA, its franchises and its fans for reasons I mentioned above.

If a player is contractually obligated to a European team, he should not be able to declare for the NBA draft, simple as that. If a player wants to play in the NBA, he should either play out his contract or agree to have his contract bought out.
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I think there needs to be a re-form or something in NBA draft rules, so things like this don't happen. It's pathetic.
Why should the rules change I give no sympathy to the wolves remember we got ripped off the year of our first draft & the year of our first number one pick selection by new rules put into place to help every other team but the raps.
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If a player is contractually obligated to a European team, he should not be able to declare for the NBA draft, simple as that. If a player wants to play in the NBA, he should either play out his contract or agree to have his contract bought out.
Where is the logic in that for euro clubs? They invest in their players from early age and their goal is most certenly not to prepare them to the NBA, we are not talking about NCAA here... so it sounds logical to me to protect their investment in the first place there for give them long term contract, just like NBA clubs do with their stars...

What would u say if Olympiakos or Real Madrid wants to buy Lebron eventhough he has 5 year on his deal still, u think Cavs would just let him? (in theory all kinds of crap can work out).

If u are eager to change the rules, make them so that player doesnt have to be 22 or lower when declareing for the draft.

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why did Minny draft him again?
Because they're morons? Who the hell drafts PGs back to back in the lotto, 5 and 6? I don't even think the Clippers would be capable of this complete debacle.

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How is it pathetic? They drafted a professional player, not an amateur. They knew the risks. If I'm Ricky Rubio no chance in hell am I taking $5M out of my own pocket to go play for a city I don't want to live in. Rubio put his name in the draft. The draft is a process where NBA teams win rights to players. The Wolves got what they drafted, Rubio's rights. They don't own Rubio. The NBA isn't some Holy place and Rubio isn't a blasphemer like some people are ridiculously suggesting. The Wolves have two choices, trade him or wait and see what happens. They knew they had these two choices before they draft him in the first place. It was no secret he had no desire taking a gigantic financial hit to go play for a city he had no interest in.

The league has no way to reform the draft to force guys to play for one specific team. Amateurs always have to option to play pro ball overseas for more money than a rookie contract can pay and pro players always have the option of simply not playing ball with a club they're not interested in. If anything what they should do is make a rule that if you're a pro player then you aren't eligible for the draft and in that case Rubio could have hit the free agent market instead of having to go through an outdated process which obviously isn't working well in some cases. Rubio isn't some college kid, with zero financial consequences, on strike because he didn't want to play in Vancouver. He was a professional baller who didn't want to essentially pay a $5M tax to go play for a city he isn't interested in. I don't even feel sorry for the Wolves. They knew the risk.

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Where is the logic in that for euro clubs? They invest in their players from early age and their goal is most certenly not to prepare them to the NBA, we are not talking about NCAA here... so it sounds logical to me to protect their investment in the first place there for give them long term contract, just like NBA clubs do with their stars...
Its a business contract. Of course a pro team isn't going to sign a contract with holes in it that allows a player to walk. Imagine how the Raptors would feel if Bosh decided tomorrow he was going to bail on the Raptors to sign a $20M/yr contract with a Russian or Greek team.

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Because they're morons? Who the hell drafts PGs back to back in the lotto, 5 and 6? I don't even think the Clippers would be capable of this complete debacle.
not true
what if a team draft CP3 and D Will back to back?
wouldn't that have looked good?
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not true
what if a team draft CP3 and D Will back to back?
wouldn't that have looked good?
No it wouldn't. Those two players wouldn't be able to coexist and so that team would have placed all its eggs in one basket. You don't see teams pull this move for a reason. The Wolves are burning themselves badly. They may not even get full value for Rubio now.
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