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Dr. J. Naismith 02-18-2008 10:25 AM

RF Countdown to the '08 Trade Deadline
The countdown is on to this Thursday, February 21st for 3pm eastern time. So, with that being said I thought we'd do a thread regarding rumours as well trade once they become official. So, try and keep all deals and rumours in this thread this week because I imagine it'll be a busy week of transactions. :)

First deal which we already know about:



To Atlanta:

* Mike Bibby


To Sacramento:

* Anthony Johnson
* Tyronn Lue
* Lorenzen Wright
* Shelden Williams
* 2008 second round draft pick

Dr. J. Naismith 02-18-2008 10:30 AM



To Dallas:

* Jason Kidd
* Malik Allen


To New Jersey:

* Devin Harris
* DeSagana Diop
* Maurice Ager
* Trenton Hassell
* Keith Van Horn
* 2 first-round draft picks
* $3 million in cash

Dr. J. Naismith 02-18-2008 10:34 AM


http://www.ezekielbearsports.com/nba/nuggets.gif - According to ESPN the Nuggets have been widely rumored to be zeroing in on a Ron Artest deal and have also been looking for a point guard. The names Andre Miller, Delonte West and Kyle Lowry have come up, among others.

The Nuggets tradable assets include roughly eight million in expiring contracts, a first-round pick and Linas Kleiza, a young prospect who appeals to a number of teams. While the team would prefer to move Nene or Kenyon Martin as part of a big trade, their contracts look to be deal-killers.

Dr. J. Naismith 02-18-2008 10:39 AM


http://www.ezekielbearsports.com/nba/cavs.gif - Ugh, the Cavs are a rock stuck in a hard place now that Bibby and Kidd are almost officially off the market. So, with that being said their options are pretty slim right now. :(

So, the only options they have right now are as per ESPN are " Andre Miller, Kyle Lowry, Javaris Crittenton or just about any other point guard out there who has a heartbeat." So in other words, considering they don't have much in tradeable assets the Cavs are screwed right now. :face4:

Dr. J. Naismith 02-18-2008 10:42 AM


http://www.ezekielbearsports.com/nba/spurs.gif - Apparently the Spurs might be even considering Artest now that Bowen is slowing down. Could be risky but they think he'd fit into their system and also be held in check by Popovich. :confused:


Originally Posted by ESPN
The Spurs still needs depth at center, at small forward and in the backcourt, and they have roughly $15 million in expiring contracts to move in trades.

Believe it or not, Ron Artest's name has come up in San Antonio. Some believe that given the team's system, he can be controlled and would give them more toughness on the wing, where Bruce Bowen is slowing down. Bringing in Artest may sound farfetched given the Spurs' emphasis on character and chemistry, but remember that Stephen Jackson was the starting shooting guard for one of the Spurs' recent title teams. If the need is powerful enough, San Antonio will do what it takes to win.

Dr. J. Naismith 02-18-2008 10:51 AM


http://www.ezekielbearsports.com/nba/bulls.gif - Chicago still trying to find a new home for Wallace, but like ESPN says he's going to be hard to move unless the Bulls are willing to part with one of thier young guns which is highly unlikely at this point.


Originally Posted by ESPN
It's no secret that Ben Wallace is available, less than two years after Chicago made him their big catch of 2006. But unless the Bulls are willing to attach Luol Deng, Ben Gordon, Tyrus Thomas or Joakim Noah to a Wallace trade, it looks unlikely that they'll be able to move him.

The Knicks have shown significant interest in acquiring Wallace, but the Bulls can't be excited about bringing in Quentin Richardson and Malik Rose -- those guys aren't going to put the Bulls over the top.

Dr. J. Naismith 02-18-2008 10:55 AM


http://www.ezekielbearsports.com/nba/nets.gif - Almost one down with the Kidd deal likely being official by the end of today. Next to go, Vince Carter. This one will likely be alot tougher for Thorn knowing Carter and his past. :cwm34:


Originally Posted by ESPN
If the Kidd trade finally goes through, only half of Rod Thorn's work will be done: the Nets still needs to find a new home for Vince Carter. The problem is that VC's contract is a deal-killer for almost every team in the league -- after this season he has three years and $52 million guaranteed.

The Knicks apparently would be willing to bring on Carter, but New Jersey might not be willing to make a deal with New York. The Nets have been trying to get the Pacers to take Carter for Jermaine O'Neal, but they'd have to find a third team willing to take Carter. The Pacers are trying to reduce payroll, not add to it long-term.

Claudius 02-18-2008 10:55 AM

If the Bulls want to deal Wallace then yes include Noah. The guy will do nothing in the forseeable future. Granted though, that Knicks package is brutal.

Dr. J. Naismith 02-18-2008 10:58 AM


http://www.ezekielbearsports.com/nba/suns.gif - Steve Kerr and the Suns might now be done dealing just yet. Looking for some more rebounding help and a back-up for Nash. :)


Originally Posted by ESPN
Yes, they made their big move, but there are rumblings the Suns aren't done remaking their roster. The team is still looking for a backup point guard and, we're told, a rebounding center to support Shaq. Word is that they're looking at players like Tyronn Lue (who was just traded to Sacramento, but could be repackaged again) and the Pacers' Jeff Foster.

The Suns don't have big expiring contracts, but they do have the Hawks' first-round draft pick this year.

Ball Don't Lie 02-18-2008 10:59 AM

If the Spurs get Artest I'll throw up.

Hopefully DEN doesnt get him either. I want to see them both fail. Hopefully SAC stays on course with what theyve been doing and trade him to the East.

Dr. J. Naismith 02-18-2008 11:00 AM


Originally Posted by Claudius (Post 11061)
If the Bulls want to deal Wallace then yes include Noah. The guy will do nothing in the forseeable future. Granted though, that Knicks package is brutal.

Yeah, I'm not sure why Paxson covets Noah so much. I had my suspicions when he came out of college that he was going to have it tough on a professional level here in the NBA. Some guys are just made for college ball and Noah seems like one of those guys. :(

Ball Don't Lie 02-18-2008 11:01 AM

Wow, if the Suns get Jeff Foster too its goodnight West.

Dr. J. Naismith 02-18-2008 11:03 AM


http://www.ezekielbearsports.com/nba/heat.gif - With expiring contract like J-Will and Davis, Riley likely isn't done changing the look of this current Heat team. ESPN is reporting that he wants to go after Miller and Lowry from Memphis. :(


Originally Posted by ESPN
The Shawn Marion trade may just be the tip of the iceberg for Miami. Pat Riley won't ever move into true rebuilding mode.

He's trying to use the expiring contracts of Jason Williams and Ricky Davis to add a couple more pieces to the Heat's core. He's been eyeing Mike Miller and Kyle Lowry from Memphis as well as some of the Blazers.

Dr. J. Naismith 02-18-2008 11:06 AM


http://www.ezekielbearsports.com/nba/rockets.gif - With most teams in the West getting stronger Houston is definitely feeling the pressure. Look for Rafer and Shane to be dangled as bait. :(


Originally Posted by ESPN
The Rockets were supposed to be a title contender coming into the season, and maybe they will be. But they are also fighting just to reach the playoffs after a rough start to the season.

The point guard position continues to be a problem, and the team could still use an athletic big man. Unfortunately, the Rockets don't have a lot of trade assets unless they can find a taker for someone like Shane Battier or Rafer Alston.

Dr. J. Naismith 02-18-2008 11:10 AM


http://www.ezekielbearsports.com/nba/magic.gif http://www.ezekielbearsports.com/nba/jazz.gif - With Hedo and Lewis being pretty much the same player, some think the Magic might be wise in offering Hedo to Utah in turn getting Kirilenko who's been mentioned on a number of occasions as being available in Utah. Something to definitely think about if your bother Orlando and Utah. :)


Originally Posted by ESPN
They spent a fortune on Rashard Lewis this summer, and they're having a good season. But no one believes Orlando is a serious threat to Boston or Detroit.

That could change if the Magic could land a power forward. They have two similar players in Lewis and Hedo Turkoglu, plus roughly $13 million in expiring contracts and J. J. Redick also available if the right deal comes along.

Who would make sense for Orlando? Andrei Kirilenko for Turkoglu and expiring contracts might work for both the Magic and the Jazz.

Claudius 02-18-2008 11:16 AM

If Miami is able to pull off a trade for Lowry then they're on a really good track to compete next season. A Lowry-Wade backcourt would be as good as any in the NBA and add in a possible resigned Marion you have the makings of a very good core. It'll be filling out the spots around them that will be difficult.

And I agree Thriller, if Jeff Foster goes to Indiana it will be lights out for the West.

Dr. J. Naismith 02-18-2008 11:29 AM


http://www.ezekielbearsports.com/nba/celtics.gif - As reported a couple weeks ago, Cassell has expressed an interest to join Boston if the Clippers decide to waive him. That would give the Celtics even more depth to a bench that most felt was going to be the team's achilles heal at the start of this season. :(


Originally Posted by ESPN
Though they have the best record in the league, the Celtics would like to increase their depth, especially at point guard and in the middle.

If the Clippers end up waiving Sam Cassell, he's expected to land in Boston. But the Celtics might not want to take a chance that Cassell remains with the Clippers or is acquired by another team. Unfortunately, the Celtics don't have any major assets they are willing to move, so a meaningful trade is not likely.

Dr. J. Naismith 02-18-2008 11:32 AM


http://www.ezekielbearsports.com/nba/kings.gif - Its no secret that the Kings are rebuilding. So with that being said, everyone on this roster with the exception of Martin seem to be available. :haha:


Originally Posted by ESPN
The team is in rebuilding mode, as the Mike Bibby trade showed. Therefore, keeping Ron Artest and the Kings' other veterans wouldn't make a lot of sense.

Artest, Kenny Thomas, Shareef Abdur-Rahim and Brad Miller can be had. Unfortunately, those players -- with the possible exception of Artest -- are hard to move. Thomas has two years and $17 million left on his contract, while Abdur-Rahim has two years and $13 million remaining and Miller has two years and $23 million to go.

Of the four, Artest has the most palatable contract, in part because he can opt out at the end of the season. And Miller's played well enough that the Kings might be able to find a taker.

Ball Don't Lie 02-18-2008 11:34 AM

Houston should be the ones going after Mike Miller, theyre the most desperate team in regards to shooting in playoff contention right now. Theyve had to play Novak a lot lately because teams just clogged the lane vs them.

The uta/orl trade makes sense on so many levels. AK's played very well this year, but his natural position is PF. He'd be a great fit with Lewis and Dwight, and Turkoglu would give Utah another option at SF to handle the ball and create(and shoot)

I dunno why Memphis is dangling Lowry. Seems like hes in every trade scenario. Hes gonna be a very solid PG.

Dr. J. Naismith 02-18-2008 11:37 AM


http://www.ezekielbearsports.com/nba/bucks.gif - Here's a rumour I just heard about for the first time. Apparently Redd might be available for the right price. It all depends if Bucks owner Kohl will allow Harris the opportunity to deal Redd though. If not, apparently they'll be looking to move CV and Simmons before the deadline. :)


Originally Posted by ESPN
With Bucks GM Larry Harris in trouble, no one's sure whether owner Herb Kohl will let him make a deal. If the Bucks are active, don't be surprised if the player moved is Michael Redd. He has a ton of talent, but the three years and $34 million left on his contract are a concern for Milwaukee -- and for potential trade partners as well.

Easier to move would be Charlie Villanueva. Yi Jianlian is the future at the 4, so the Bucks should move Villanueva while he still has some value. But the team has been trying to package him with Bobby Simmons -- 2 years, $20 million remaining -- which is why they haven't found any takers yet.

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