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Ray Allen 21 38.89%
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Old 02-09-2011, 07:30 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Ray Allen was far better overall...
averages more points, more rebounds, more assists, more steals. more all star appearances. championship title.
Reggie's totals per game/per year never even came close to what Ray's are/were.

Ray Allen by a big margin for me.
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Reggie Miller NBA & ABA Statistics | Basketball-Reference.com

Ray Allen NBA & ABA Statistics | Basketball-Reference.com

Also, keep in mind that Reggie's numbers are skewed a bit lower because he has a couple more near-retirement years counted in his averages. He also played during arguably the most offensively challenging, physically engaging years in the history of the league.
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Old 02-09-2011, 07:56 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Reggie miller. Tell me when Ray Allen drops 8 in 8.9 sec. That shit is crazy. I think Ray Allen is a better seasonal player, But if want to win playoff games Reggie is the one. Not to mention the monster team mate handy-cap.
Tracy Mcgrady dropped 13 points in 35 seconds...

Does that make him anywhere near Ray Allen or Reggie? No

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Old 02-09-2011, 08:04 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Ray allen > reggie miller bopth great shooters but ray is a better all around player lmao at the people who voted for scalabrine
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Ray Allen. Because people forget about his ability to finish at the rim. He may not do it often now but back in Seattle and Milwakee he was a high flyer. People think of him as a one dimensional player but really he wasn't. His ball handing in his earlier stages of his career was very sharp as well.
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Reggie, wouldn't even think to put Ray ahead of him. The individual talent is leagues apart, not even to insult Ray because he's great. But not Reggie type of great.
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Reggie was the man.
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OK - I'll tip the balance to Reggie, because I did love the Pacers myself. I can't say I ever fell in love with a Ray Allen team.
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Reggie ran the team,
Ray Allen does not come close to running the celtics.
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Reggie ran the team,
Ray Allen does not come close to running the celtics.
He was the guy for Milwaukee and Seattle before the Celtics.
Now he's a "role player" in Boston.
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Reggie Miller and only for breaking the hearts of New York basketball fans time and time again. I don't even like the guy and i am a bigger Ray Allen fan generally speaking.
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Reggie ran the team,
Ray Allen does not come close to running the celtics.
i can think of a lot of Pacer players over the years that had a hand in 'running' that team; Jackson, Davis, O'neal, Smits, etc...
for the life of me, i cant think of anyone on Milwaukee or Seattle that helped Allen.

and of course Allen doesnt run the Celtics... we are nearing the twilight of his career, you think Miller ran the Pacers near the end of his career? not a chance.
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Reggie did not run that team. That was a team in every sense of the word. He was a good leader that could be counted on in the clutch. There was a lot more to the team's success than just that. But I loved him for being a part of such a team. The Pacers and the Jazz in the 90's made me love the idea of basketball as a team sport. All while Stern was pushing the idea of the franchise player. It's a shame what has happened in the interim. Thankfully, the Celtics have put team ahead of everything else. But aside from the one championship season, it's been about guys past their prime, unfortunately.
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Reggie did not run that team. That was a team in every sense of the word. He was a good leader that could be counted on in the clutch. There was a lot more to the team's success than just that. But I loved him for being a part of such a team. The Pacers and the Jazz in the 90's made me love the idea of basketball as a team sport. All while Stern was pushing the idea of the franchise player. It's a shame what has happened in the interim. Thankfully, the Celtics have put team ahead of everything else. But aside from the one championship season, it's been about guys past their prime, unfortunately.
Pacers were great, but the Jazz... they were the Spurs of the 90's. So fundemental and not fun to watch.
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If you exclude the intangibles, Reggie matched Ray in only one facet (shooting)IMO. In his prime, Ray Allen was a very crafty, high flying finisher around the rim, and an elite distributer as a SG/PG hybrid.
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i can think of a lot of Pacer players over the years that had a hand in 'running' that team; Jackson, Davis, O'neal, Smits, etc...
for the life of me, i cant think of anyone on Milwaukee or Seattle that helped Allen.
sam cassell and big dog in milwaukee.

that seattle team was gaaaahbage...
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Pacers were great, but the Jazz... they were the Spurs of the 90's. So fundemental and not fun to watch.
oh my - I'd give anything to see players on the level of Stockton and Malone. I can't think of anything more enjoyable.
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sam cassell and big dog in milwaukee.

that seattle team was gaaaahbage...
Jerome James for starting Center, Reggie Evans, Danny Fortson
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I know Reggie played with Rik Smits Jermaine O'Neal - two legit players. I have no idea who the freak Allen got to play that would command attention in the post...Reggie Evans? lol

i rmb reggie doing his thing that 8 or 9 points in few seconds was amazing...and had that other good game..but didn't allen like totally own that Chicago - Celtics game a couple yrs ago (what many called the best first round series ever)...Allen prob had like...20 million game winning or game tying 3s in that series alone...just felt that series alone was more than anythign Reggie did his whole carrer (tho i admit I never watched it). I also don't think reggie was meh defensively...n i do rmb for many parts Allen had to defend Kobe in the finals...soo I'm going to give the edge to Allen

remember an article showing how "clutch" Reggie was was overblown...found it - from: Kobe Bryant, Dirk Nowitzki, Ray Allen, Paul Pierce, Steve Nash: Defying the longevity odds - ESPN
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Allen's 3-point percentages by quarter (since 1996-97): 41.3 (First), 40.6 (Second), 39.9 (Third), 38.5 (Fourth), and 43.4 (OT). For fourth quarter and OT combined, only five players averaged higher than 36 percent in the past 15 years: Steve Nash (45.6 percent), Allen (42.6 percent), Jason Terry (41.9 percent), Chauncey Billups (41.3 percent) and Dirk Nowitzki (37.1 percent). Reggie Miller over that time: 34.1 percent.

The top-5 for clutch 3-point shooting (either OT or 3:00 or less in the fourth, with a margin of three points or fewer) since 1996-97: Mike Bibby (41.8 percent), Allen (40.2 percent), Terry (39.2 percent), Billups (38.4 percent), Nash (37.8 percent). Reggie Miller from 1996 to 2005: 33.1 percent.

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Tough to vote against the greatest white man to ever play the game of basketball in the history of the Western Civilization...
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Old 02-13-2011, 12:56 AM   #40 (permalink)
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reggie for me. just like ligeia, i'm a big ray allen fan, but reggie had that extra something. i fell in love with the pacers, even though i disliked a huge number of their players, precisely because i loved watching reggie get into clutch mode. and he made me hate the knicks, which i refuse to let go of.
+1.... or I guess that would be +2 lol.
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