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Old 12-15-2009, 11:49 AM   #21 (permalink)
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i know i'll be in the minority here, but randolph's potential is overrated in my opinion.
the kid has been getting a lot of minutes over the last little while, and while he's putting up decent numbers - a few things are evident: he's not a great rebounder, and he loves shooting.
another 7 footer who isnt strong enough to play Center, loves shooting, and isnt a great rebounder.... um, i'll pass, we already have one of those - and ours is much better.
+1. I see where people are coming from but he's not someone we should break the bank on.
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Old 12-15-2009, 11:50 AM   #22 (permalink)
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2 separate options depending on the Bosh situation

If Bosh is gonna go:
Raps send gs Bosh, Amir and Jose
gets: Ellis, Randolph, Turiaf, Speedy Claxton

Jack/Claxton/Banks
Ellis/Derozan/Belli
Turk/Wright/Weems
Randolph/Evans/Turiaf
Bargs/Turiaf/Rasho/POB





If Bosh is gonna stay
Raps send Bargs, Jose, Amir
Gets: Ellis, Randolph, Turiaf, Watson, Pick

Jack/Watson/Banks
Ellis/Derozan/Belli
Turk/Wright/Weems
Bosh/Randolph/Evans
Turiaf/Rasho/POB
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Old 12-15-2009, 11:50 AM   #23 (permalink)
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We give Jose + banks + pops + wright

get:
ellis + randolph

bingo
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Old 12-15-2009, 11:51 AM   #24 (permalink)
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2 separate options depending on the Bosh situation

If Bosh is gonna go:
Raps send gs Bosh, Amir and Jose
gets: Ellis, Randolph, Turiaf, Speedy Claxton

Jack/Claxton/Banks
Ellis/Derozan/Belli
Turk/Wright/Weems
Randolph/Evans/Turiaf
Bargs/Turiaf/Rasho/POB





If Bosh is gonna stay
Raps send Bargs, Jose, Amir
Gets: Ellis, Randolph, Turiaf, Watson, Pick

Jack/Watson/Banks
Ellis/Derozan/Belli
Turk/Wright/Weems
Bosh/Randolph/Evans
Turiaf/Rasho/POB
so Bargs nets us more in return
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Old 12-15-2009, 11:55 AM   #25 (permalink)
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so Bargs nets us more in return
My bad, pick was supposed to be added on the Bosh one.

But is all seriousness, there is a possibility that Bargs could net a bit more seeing how Bosh is a free agent at the end of the season and a team may lose him for nothing.
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Old 12-15-2009, 11:57 AM   #26 (permalink)
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We give Jose + banks + pops + wright

get:
ellis + randolph

bingo
You're not gonna get Ellis/Randolph for Jose+ Scrubs! Even if it's GS

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Old 12-15-2009, 11:58 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Well if their whole roster could had, we need to get Morrow/Randolph and maybe even Ellis.


That team has very good young talent, but as i and many have said Nelson has no patience with young players. It's funny that this team has been rebuilding for a couple years now and they're not gonna make the playoffs for awhile, so why not play your young talented players consistantly 30+MPG and developpe them?

If Bosh wants to go:

Miami gets
Bosh (S&T max$$)

GS gets
JO (huge expiring)

Raptors get
Biedrins
Eliis
Randolph


Don't know if the $$ works out but it would be about right i believe. GS gets 23Mil in capspace, Miami gets Bosh to play with Wade, We get a rebounding Centre and a very good young Forward and PG. We'd then have to move Calderon.
The Warriors would want more than O'Neal. In all those rumors last year about Bosh going there the bottom line was that the Warriors didn't want to give up both Biedrins and Ellis for Bosh. If they're not willing to give it up for him then why O'Neal's expiring contract? They're not going to be able to upgrade that talent of Biedrins, Ellis and Randolph with that cap space so doesn't make sense. If anything they would try to force Maggette into the trade and dump his contract. That's my opinion.
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Old 12-15-2009, 12:00 PM   #28 (permalink)
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You're not gonna get Elli/Randolph for Jose+ Scrubs! Even if it's GS
i think they would except it, second of all if they dont then

Jose + wright + obryant + banks + money thats fair
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Old 12-15-2009, 12:09 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Chicago trades:
Miller, Hinrich, 2010 pick
Gets:
Bosh, Banks, Derozan

Get their low post guy and a young soon to be solid sg in DDR

Rose
DDR
Deng
Bosh
Noah


GS Trades:
Ellis, Randolph, Turiaf, Claxton(Exp)
Gets:
Jose, Miller, Amir

Gets a solid outside shooting pg, large expirings in Miller and Amir and and high energy bigman in Amir.

Jose
Morrow
Mags
Beans
Miller

Toronto trades:
Bosh, Jose, Amir, Demar, Banks
Gets:
Hinrich, Ellis, Turiaf, Randolph, Claxton, Chicagos pick

Raps get defensive and some scoring power on the wing.

Hinrich/Jack/Claxton
Ellis/Belli/Weems
Turk/Wright
Bargs/Randolph/Evans
Turiaf/Rasho/POB
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Old 12-15-2009, 12:12 PM   #30 (permalink)
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I'd take Bosh, Calderon and DeRozan any day of the week over Hinrich, Randolph and Ellis.
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Old 12-15-2009, 12:17 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Well if their whole roster could had, we need to get Morrow/Randolph and maybe even Ellis.


That team has very good young talent, but as i and many have said Nelson has no patience with young players. It's funny that this team has been rebuilding for a couple years now and they're not gonna make the playoffs for awhile, so why not play your young talented players consistantly 30+MPG and developpe them?

If Bosh wants to go:

Miami gets
Bosh (S&T max$$)

GS gets
JO (huge expiring)

Raptors get
Biedrins
Eliis
Randolph


Don't know if the $$ works out but it would be about right i believe. GS gets 23Mil in capspace, Miami gets Bosh to play with Wade, We get a rebounding Centre and a very good young Forward and PG. We'd then have to move Calderon.
you are in love with ellis i think
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Old 12-15-2009, 01:17 PM   #32 (permalink)
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i think they would except it, second of all if they dont then

Jose + wright + obryant + banks + money thats fair
Studs for Scrubs?..GS would not even entertain that..We're stuck with Jose -unless we package him with Bosh or Bargs..
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Old 12-15-2009, 01:23 PM   #33 (permalink)
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I want Ellis -he's a dynamic slasher that this team sorely needs. But Jose is untradeable on his own..He'd have to be packaged with Bosh or Bargs IMO for a team to reluctantly take him..

GS fans will fucking spaz on if Randolph is dealt for Lebron..He's a potential stud, so I'd like the Raps to cozen the Warriors once again..
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Old 12-15-2009, 01:32 PM   #34 (permalink)
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If we're shipping out Bargs and keeping Bosh, getting Biedrins is a must. Forget Ellis. We'll need a centre, and Randolph isn't that guy.
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Old 12-15-2009, 03:01 PM   #35 (permalink)
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i just want to trade brags... if any team with a lottory pick would give us their first for him i wud doo it... we need more role players and less random inbetween crap... brags is ashooting power forward who things he is vc in a true centers body....

i would try n deal both him n jose for future sucsess...
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thats odd.... miami's tag was attached to my post... you think they would do a trade?

how sick wud brags, jose for wade?
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i just want to trade brags... if any team with a lottory pick would give us their first for him i wud doo it... we need more role players and less random inbetween crap... brags is ashooting power forward who things he is vc in a true centers body....

i would try n deal both him n jose for future sucsess...
If only you were remotely right and Bargs likened himself to VC..Lamentably, I actually think he has low self-esteem..which in turn holds him back..
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Old 12-15-2009, 04:08 PM   #38 (permalink)
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I would trade Amir Johnson & Sonny Weems for Anthony Randolph. Anthony Randolph is a special player.
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Old 12-15-2009, 04:12 PM   #39 (permalink)
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Chicago trades:
Miller, Hinrich, 2010 pick
Gets:
Bosh, Banks, Derozan

Get their low post guy and a young soon to be solid sg in DDR

Rose
DDR
Deng
Bosh
Noah


GS Trades:
Ellis, Randolph, Turiaf, Claxton(Exp)
Gets:
Jose, Miller, Amir

Gets a solid outside shooting pg, large expirings in Miller and Amir and and high energy bigman in Amir.

Jose
Morrow
Mags
Beans
Miller

Toronto trades:
Bosh, Jose, Amir, Demar, Banks
Gets:
Hinrich, Ellis, Turiaf, Randolph, Claxton, Chicagos pick

Raps get defensive and some scoring power on the wing.

Hinrich/Jack/Claxton
Ellis/Belli/Weems
Turk/Wright
Bargs/Randolph/Evans
Turiaf/Rasho/POB
no
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Old 12-15-2009, 04:25 PM   #40 (permalink)
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I hope Miami has a horrible season so Wade doesn't resign and we can have a chance to sign him. But because MLSE will refuse to go over the cap , we can do a S&T with Miami shipping Bargs, Jose, and for shits & gigs throw in POB for DWade I tried this trade on trade machine and it worked the contracts matched up evenly. We can either pay one(Bosh/Wade) the max and another a little less or both can take a bit of a contract hit. Yet another wet dream...

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