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LX 04-26-2011 10:30 AM

Players Union Could Decertify
 
from espn -LINK

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The NBA players union already has enough votes from its members to decertify, should it decide to follow the strategy used by the NFL players union, CBSSports.com reported, citing unnamed sources.

The NBA is facing the possibility of a lockout when the collective bargaining agreement between the union and the owners expires on June 30. But a U.S. District Court judge's decision to grant an injunction ending the NFL lockout -- casting aside the league's argument that the NFL union's decision to decertify was a sham -- may have given the NBA players union an important precedent -- should the ruling stand.

"This is a victory for all professional sports unions," Gabe Feldman, head of the Sports Law Center at Tulane University, told CBSSports.com. "If the case stands up on appeal, it gives player unions a significant, though costly, weapon to use as leverage in labor negotiations."

In the event of an NBA lockout, the players union could do what the NFL players union did -- decertify, then file an antitrust lawsuit against the NBA anywhere the league does business. That would include Minnesota, where U.S. District Judge Susan Richard Nelson heard arguments from the NFL and its union, then issued an opinion Monday ordering an end to the lockout.

The NFL has filed a notice of appeal of Nelson's decision with the 8th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in St. Paul.

Billy Hunter, the NBA union's executive director, told Sports Illustrated that the decision was "a great ruling for the players," but only the first step in a lengthy battle.

"What it does is put pressure on us to sit down and settle this," Hunter told SI. "We just want a fair deal."

Last week, NBA commissioner David Stern said he is eager to intensify talks with the union to avoid a lockout and court fight. At the league's recent owners meetings, Stern said the NBA was planning to present a revised proposal to the union soon.

The NBA and its union remain divided on key issues, as the league's owners want to replace the current soft salary cap and luxury tax system with a hard salary cap and reduce the length of guaranteed contracts.

Scully 04-26-2011 10:49 AM

Help me out with this one. What are the advantages of getting rid of the union for the players? Is this Helping upper or lower tier players? Is the whole advantage being the players aren't held under one single entity? therefore more of a headache for owners to deal with? does it give lower salary players more stability in contract signings?

Blaze 04-26-2011 04:25 PM

I'm cheering for the league. All the crap the happened this season because of players being spoiled rotten is ridicoulous. Unless they fix this now, the league is going to be in for some serious trouble. I pray they implement a franchise tag type thing because after these playoffs I have a feeling the next player to abandon his team will be Dwight Howard.

GrannyFro 04-26-2011 04:39 PM

i'm cheering for a lockout, i want everyone to suffer including stern and his mob ties

js12 04-26-2011 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Blaze (Post 533317)
I'm cheering for the league. All the crap the happened this season because of players being spoiled rotten is ridicoulous. Unless they fix this now, the league is going to be in for some serious trouble. I pray they implement a franchise tag type thing because after these playoffs I have a feeling the next player to abandon his team will be Dwight Howard.

Totally agree with you.

I want the league to impose harder rules. Makes sure talent is spread across the league and gives smaller-market teams are better chance to succeed.

Toby 04-26-2011 09:29 PM

Dwight Howard is gonna be a Laker, and the NBA will force at least one more season from the desperate teams, as Stern watches his Laker team win another title. Then, maybe, the league will strike.

LX 04-26-2011 09:37 PM

What rules are going to keep a dissatisfied player on a team that's taken a step backwards from asking to be traded? I would much rather see less need for so many bad contracts by opening up the free agent market for real. Not everyone is going to be able to go to a big market team, and big market teams are not going to be able to buy up all the free agents if it gets opened up with teams no longer able to offer more years and more money to their own players. Making contracts shorter and making player movement easier rather than harder would be good for real parity among teams with a real plan they can present as competitors for free agents as well as their own players. Plans will be easier to carry out and mistakes will be less costly. Players will not be looking at situations where they consider just playing for a paycheque, while their own sought-after talent allows their team to win enough to get middling draft picks at best, and crappy free agent markets leave no real avenue for becoming elite. If that is the parity we want to reinforce then this league is going to lose me pretty quick.

Ball Don't Lie 04-26-2011 10:44 PM

Why would you cheer for a lockout to happen? There'll be nothing good to watch on TV at nights when theres nothing better to do. I'm not getting into fucking hockey.

jeffb 04-26-2011 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by thriller92 (Post 533381)
Why would you cheer for a lockout to happen? There'll be nothing good to watch on TV at nights when theres nothing better to do. I'm not getting into fucking hockey.

+1

pzabby 04-26-2011 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by LX (Post 533364)
What rules are going to keep a dissatisfied player on a team that's taken a step backwards from asking to be traded? I would much rather see less need for so many bad contracts by opening up the free agent market for real. Not everyone is going to be able to go to a big market team, and big market teams are not going to be able to buy up all the free agents if it gets opened up with teams no longer able to offer more years and more money to their own players. Making contracts shorter and making player movement easier rather than harder would be good for real parity among teams with a real plan they can present as competitors for free agents as well as their own players. Plans will be easier to carry out and mistakes will be less costly. Players will not be looking at situations where they consider just playing for a paycheque, while their own sought-after talent allows their team to win enough to get middling draft picks at best, and crappy free agent markets leave no real avenue for becoming elite. If that is the parity we want to reinforce then this league is going to lose me pretty quick.

i agree with your idea as long as there is a hard cap imposed along with it

LX 04-27-2011 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by pzabby (Post 533394)
i agree with your idea as long as there is a hard cap imposed along with it

yep - a hard cap would be pretty essential to make it work.


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