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Claudius 03-16-2011 02:03 PM

Phil: Kobe isn't Jordan
 
Agreed.

Quote:

With Kobe Bryant having won five NBA titles, one away from Michael Jordan’s six, the comparisons between the two are inevitable. But Phil Jackson, who coached Bryant’s Lakers and Jordan’s Bulls to all 11 of their combined titles, thinks Jordan is in his own stratosphere and that the conversations comparing the two stars should stop.

"Kobe has patterned himself after Michael, and there are a lot of identical things there,” Jackson told the Los Angeles Times, “but it's one thing to hope to be like him, it's another thing to be like him."

Kobe Bryant earns high praise from Phil Jackson, but the Lakers coach says his current star should not be compared to Michael Jordan. (AP photo)"I'm with (ESPN's) Bill Simmons on this," he added. "We have to take Michael Jordan out of the equation. Stop comparing anyone to Michael Jordan. It's just not fair. He was remarkable. ...

"(Kobe) doesn't shoot the same percentage (.455) as Michael (.497). He has the same characteristics as Michael, but he's not the same player. It takes nothing away from him — he's a great player in his own right."
Phil Jackson says Kobe Bryant not in Michael Jordan's company - NBA - Sporting News

0nekhmer 03-16-2011 02:14 PM

eh, mind games phil? he's been saying a lot of unorthodox things lately

Claudius 03-16-2011 02:20 PM

really, you think kobe is as good as MJ? Really?

LX 03-16-2011 02:55 PM

It's completely accurate. However, in Kobe's mind, that does take something away from Kobe, I would guess. If he is speaking the truth to get under Kobe's skin, I'm not sure it works. I doubt he wants ballhog Kobe back in the equation,and that's just what he might get.

Don Vito 03-16-2011 03:10 PM

There will never be another MJ, and there will never be another Kobe either.

Claudius 03-16-2011 03:12 PM

I don't think Kobe's reached his own status yet. Not in my mind yet.

When I watche MJ I knew what I was watching. When I watch Kobe, I don't get that same feeling. Great player but not greatest ever.

th3answ3r 03-16-2011 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by LX (Post 520306)
It's completely accurate. However, in Kobe's mind, that does take something away from Kobe, I would guess. If he is speaking the truth to get under Kobe's skin, I'm not sure it works. I doubt he wants ballhog Kobe back in the equation,and that's just what he might get.

idk, he might want 81 point ball hog kobe, not the 30% fg ball hog kobe. about time he take over as it is playoffs

SomeDPlease 03-16-2011 05:16 PM

Every decade has a MJ type player. Last decade's MJ was Kobe.

Regardless, I like what Phil is doing here. It gives Kobe more motivation to cement himself as one of the all-time greats.

TORaptor4Ever 03-16-2011 05:45 PM

As much as I hate Kobe I have to admit that he's the only player since MJ that has just left me incredulous with some of the plays that he has made.

Acie 03-16-2011 05:47 PM

Bottom line...Kobe need to start gambling more to be like MJ.

kia4ever 03-16-2011 06:05 PM

Not saying Kobe's better but it must be mentioned that zone defense wasn't what it is today. The Chicago bulls didn't really have decent opponents since the great teams (detroit, Boston and LA) were already in decline. Also the style of play the time was more one on one. There will never be a another jordan because the game is different now, plain and simple

Shalaska 03-18-2011 03:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Claudius (Post 520316)
I don't think Kobe's reached his own status yet. Not in my mind yet.

When I watche MJ I knew what I was watching. When I watch Kobe, I don't get that same feeling. Great player but not greatest ever.

Yeah.. That's just what I think about Kobe.

He's good, really good, but he's not Jordan. But I also think Kobe is underrated.

archie63 03-18-2011 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by kia4ever (Post 520391)
Not saying Kobe's better but it must be mentioned that zone defense wasn't what it is today. The Chicago bulls didn't really have decent opponents since the great teams (detroit, Boston and LA) were already in decline. Also the style of play the time was more one on one. There will never be a another jordan because the game is different now, plain and simple

The game is for sure different and don't forget they even created the "Jordan rules" to slow him down but even that didn't work. So as he's questionable in his private life and after playing time life, none is "like Mike"

Renihan_00 03-18-2011 08:51 AM

While Kobe may not be Jordan I have no doubt someone will come along and surpass him...it's just how it is.

I think that there are a couple of guys who could have had chances at playing to his level in recent memory in Vince, Kobe, Lebron (I'm not going to make an exhaustive list here).

Some guys just haven't had the luck that Jordan had (right team, right time) or the effort and drive to succeed.

It will happen, it will just take a while for all the balls to bounce the right way.

halphbreedballer 03-18-2011 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Renihan_00 (Post 520840)
While Kobe may not be Jordan I have no doubt someone will come along and surpass him...it's just how it is.

I think that there are a couple of guys who could have had chances at playing to his level in recent memory in Vince, Kobe, Lebron (I'm not going to make an exhaustive list here).

Some guys just haven't had the luck that Jordan had (right team, right time) or the effort and drive to succeed.

It will happen, it will just take a while for all the balls to bounce the right way.

Agreed!

Jordan & the big O the 2 single best guards of all time!

b55bgc 03-18-2011 04:13 PM

When you watch a laker game now. Your eyes tend to watch the whole team play.
I remember watching Buls games back in the day. And your eyes never left MJ. Even when he never had the ball, you were left wondering what this guy was gonna do.

One can only dream of a player like that coming back to the NBA.

Don Vito 03-18-2011 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by b55bgc (Post 520986)
When you watch a laker game now. Your eyes tend to watch the whole team play.
I remember watching Buls games back in the day. And your eyes never left MJ. Even when he never had the ball, you were left wondering what this guy was gonna do.

One can only dream of a player like that coming back to the NBA.

Thats how it was when Lebron was in Cleveland.

Acie 03-18-2011 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by b55bgc (Post 520986)
When you watch a laker game now. Your eyes tend to watch the whole team play.
I remember watching Buls games back in the day. And your eyes never left MJ. Even when he never had the ball, you were left wondering what this guy was gonna do.

One can only dream of a player like that coming back to the NBA.

Actually, I watched Pippen and Rodman.

Acie 03-18-2011 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by halphbreedballer (Post 520843)
Agreed!

Jordan & the big O the 2 single best guards of all time!

Magic disagrees.

Chiggmo 03-18-2011 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Shalaska (Post 520824)
Yeah.. That's just what I think about Kobe.

He's good, really good, but he's not Jordan. But I also think Kobe is underrated.

LOL! Kobe underrated? Hardly...

Regardless, he can't even see Jordan's level, let alone be on it.


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