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Old 09-23-2013, 01:16 PM   #41 (permalink)
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George led his team past Melo and to game 7 with the two-time defendending champion Heat. He turned into a superstar in last year's playoffs. Some of you are out to lunch.

Alan Anderson also locked him down early in the season in what I believe was a Raptor win.
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Old 09-23-2013, 01:18 PM   #42 (permalink)
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George led his team past Melo and to game 7 with the two-time defendending champion Heat. He turned into a superstar in last year's playoffs. Some of you are out to lunch.

Alan Anderson also locked him down early in the season in what I believe was a Raptor win.
Too early to give this 23yr old this contract based mostly on a couple playoff series. Yeah we're out to lunch because we don't think he's worth MVP type money. lol

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Old 09-23-2013, 01:26 PM   #43 (permalink)
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he is worth 50-60, not 90
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Old 09-23-2013, 01:54 PM   #44 (permalink)
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Too early to give this 23yr old this contract based mostly on a couple playoff series. Yeah we're out to lunch because we don't think he's worth MVP type money. lol
Tbh, MVP caliber players (Durant, LeBron, CP3, etc) are worth some 30-50 mil, it's just that the rules don't allow to pay them that much.
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Wow! SMH

You think he should be making less than Fields and a little more than Gray?

His salary is market driven as they all are but imo he's not really all that over payed. And you're high if you think he's only worth MLE
His salary isn't market driven, it's Colangelo driven. Same with Fields. What's the point in judging someone's salary in comparison with Fields, when Fields has a horrible contract?
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I think Paul George is overrated. I'd take Gay over George. Will probably get heat for that statement, but his team makes him look better than he really is. Put him on the Raptors and you got a slightly better derozan
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Wow, way too much.
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Old 09-23-2013, 02:38 PM   #48 (permalink)
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His salary isn't market driven, it's Colangelo driven. Same with Fields. What's the point in judging someone's salary in comparison with Fields, when Fields has a horrible contract?
He's not a MLE player. He's an 8mil/yr player imo, maybe 7. But most players are a little over payed so him at 9.5 isn't that insane a contract to say the least. There are worse in the NBA.
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Too early to give this 23yr old this contract based mostly on a couple playoff series. Yeah we're out to lunch because we don't think he's worth MVP type money. lol
The contract isn't based on a couple of playoff series, although those playoff series kind of represented his arrival to the basketball elite. The contract is based on his personality and work ethic, combined with his ability which is on par with the best of the best, combined with his willingness to build in Indiana a market that is hard-pressed to lure wing players of his caliber in free agency.
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The contract is based on his personality and work ethic,
Then Demar is under payed. lol
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I think it is like this. Is he worth 18 mill this year? No way whatsoever. Could he be worth 18 mill in 5 years? Ye there is a chance. This is one of those potential contracts. They over did it though. The most I would have paid for him would be a 5 yr 60 mil
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I think Paul George is overrated. I'd take Gay over George. Will probably get heat for that statement, but his team makes him look better than he really is. Put him on the Raptors and you got a slightly better derozan
You're right, Hansborough and Augustin made this fool.... now that we stole them, Demar is going to look like an even better Paul George.... book it.
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Then Demar is under payed. lol
I might agree with you. I definitely don't think he's overpaid. This season will say alot about the rest of his career. First season without Collangelo and Bargnani.
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He's not a MLE player. He's an 8mil/yr player imo, maybe 7. But most players are a little over payed so him at 9.5 isn't that insane a contract to say the least. There are worse in the NBA.
There are worse contracts, sure. But players like Kevin Martin, Redick, Wes Matthews are paid 7 mil or under. I consider DeMar a worse player. He was paid for upside, so he'll have to improve.
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There are worse contracts, sure. But players like Kevin Martin, Redick, Wes Matthews are paid 7 mil or under. I consider DeMar a worse player. He was paid for upside, so he'll have to improve.
Kevin Martin is making 7 Mil because he's on his 3rd or 4th contract and is 30yrs old. Demar signed his second contract at the age of 23 and part of it just like with George is based on potential. In other words, 7-8mil player that we hope can be a 9.5mil player by say 25.

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Old 09-23-2013, 03:11 PM   #56 (permalink)
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I think it is like this. Is he worth 18 mill this year? No way whatsoever. Could he be worth 18 mill in 5 years? Ye there is a chance. This is one of those potential contracts. They over did it though. The most I would have paid for him would be a 5 yr 60 mil
Then he wouldn't sign. He's a young all-NBA player. Unless he got injured, he'd easily get ~4/60 next summer from some team with a player option for year 4.

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Old 09-23-2013, 03:15 PM   #57 (permalink)
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Kevin Martin is making 7 Mil because he's on his 3rd or 4th contract and is 30yrs old. Demar signed his second contract at the age of 23 and part of it just like with George is based on potential. In other words, 7-8mil player that we hope can be a 9.5mil player by say 25.
In other words, he got paid for upside. Not sure where you disagree with me, other than you don't like my assessment of his current production/value. Which is just based on looking at other guards.
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Old 09-23-2013, 03:22 PM   #58 (permalink)
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I think you would be very hard-pressed to find even a 25%-30% minority that believes Wes Mathews and JJ Redick were better players than Demar Derozan last year. Oddly enough, a Raptors forum might be the one place where you would find one.
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In todays NBA market he's definitely worth max money. Not only because he's improved every year he's been in the league to the point where he's one of the top players at his position and a top 20 player in the league, but because he's only 23 and he still has a lot of room for improvement.

I understand the comparison to Gay, but Gay was never close to being as good defensively as George is, which is what really sets them apart. George is also the superior passer and ball handler. Rudys style of play isn't conducive to a championship team because he's not productive enough in ISOs to justify him getting the ball as much as he does. Georges game adapts better to any NBA offence he's put in because he's more versatile than Rudy, and as mentioned before, a better ball handler and passer.
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I think you would be very hard-pressed to find even a 25%-30% minority that believes Wes Mathews and JJ Redick were better players than Demar Derozan last year. Oddly enough, a Raptors forum might be the one place where you would find one.
Are you saying this based on seeing a lot of pro-DeMar posts on the forums of other teams?
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