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Old 07-21-2012, 05:52 PM   #81 (permalink)
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I think you've embarrassed yourself enough already. You couldn't comprehend the a simple point I was making. No need to get all bitter because you were wrong. Next time try to be more informed and you can avoid looking like an idiot.

Still don't get what your driving at.
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Old 07-21-2012, 05:57 PM   #82 (permalink)
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Old 07-21-2012, 06:02 PM   #83 (permalink)
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Are people completely unaware that Chris Paul is doing THE EXACT SAME THING?
Who? And what's he doing again?
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Old 07-21-2012, 06:58 PM   #84 (permalink)
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This doesn't mean he won't commit long term to Brooklyn or Lakers.
I dont buy anything he says no more. He may tell the Lakers he will commit but who knows how he will be feeling after the end of the season. Dont trust him...
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Old 07-21-2012, 07:20 PM   #85 (permalink)
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Lol if he gets traded to the Lakers and becomes a free agent, where else will he go? Nets don't have the cap space to sign him. No other team would make more sense than the Lakers. And on top of that, he'd be leaving $25-30 million in guaranteed money on the table if he decided to leave the Lakers. Don't see that happening.
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Old 07-21-2012, 10:35 PM   #86 (permalink)
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Lol if he gets traded to the Lakers and becomes a free agent, where else will he go? Nets don't have the cap space to sign him. No other team would make more sense than the Lakers. And on top of that, he'd be leaving $25-30 million in guaranteed money on the table if he decided to leave the Lakers. Don't see that happening.
Well Bosh and LBJ did didn't they? I mean there are other way to make money besides the nba contract - especially for an all star.

Do you guys think the Lakers would do a sign and trade with the Nets for a package centered around Lopez?

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Old 07-21-2012, 10:58 PM   #87 (permalink)
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Well Bosh and LBJ did didn't they?
Umm, no. The Cavs and Raptors did a sign-and-trade to bring LeBron and Bosh to Heat. Each of them signed for 6 years (last year is player option iirc). Under the new CBA, you can only sign for a max of 5 years. However, I believe after this upcoming seasons, sign and trades will work differently where the team with the incoming player can't be $4 million above the luxury tax threshold. Not sure, but it's something like that.

And I think Bosh and LeBron signed for the max but Wade took a small paycut. I think Bosh and LeBron MAY have taken a little less than max, but it certainly didn't amount to much.

Anyways, the paycut point I was making was a secondary point. LeBron and Bosh took a paycut (if they did) to join up and make a super team. Dwight on the Lakers would ALREADY be a super team. There's no where he can go that would be a better option than the Lakers. Brooklyn would no have cap space to sign him. There's literally no other team (that would have cap space), that Dwight could join that would be better than the Lakers with Dwight.

So not only would he be leaving to go to a worse team, he'd be losing out on a $25-30 million in guaranteed money (plus endorsements). If he could have left the Lakers to make an even better team, I could see someone arguing why Dwight would leave the Lakers while taking a huge paycut. But clearly, that's not the case.
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Do you guys think the Lakers would do a sign and trade with the Nets for a package centered around Lopez?
I've been following this Dwight situation VERY closely and I can tell you with near certainty that Dwight will end up with the Lakers or in Houston. If he lands on the Lakers, he WILL re-sign. There is NO doubt about it. As I mentioned in my previous post, sign-and-trades will work differently after the upcoming season, so there's really no way the Nets could orchestrate a sign-and-trade to bring in Dwight. If he lands in Houston, I could see him re-signing. He can't really go anywhere else.
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Old 07-21-2012, 11:40 PM   #89 (permalink)
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if kobe retires in two years.. signing an exten... oops i mean re-signing with them might not be the most ideal scenario for him. nash is aging too so who knows how that will workout.
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Old 07-21-2012, 11:59 PM   #90 (permalink)
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signing an exten... oops i mean re-signing with them
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Old 07-22-2012, 12:07 AM   #91 (permalink)
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dwight has big shoes to fill in both houston and the lakers. lakers he will, absolutely, draw comparisons to shaq, where he will fail every time. houston, well, hakeem the dream.
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Old 07-22-2012, 09:14 AM   #92 (permalink)
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I've been following this Dwight situation VERY closely and I can tell you with near certainty that Dwight will end up with the Lakers or in Houston. If he lands on the Lakers, he WILL re-sign. There is NO doubt about it. As I mentioned in my previous post, sign-and-trades will work differently after the upcoming season, so there's really no way the Nets could orchestrate a sign-and-trade to bring in Dwight. If he lands in Houston, I could see him re-signing. He can't really go anywhere else.
I disagree. If Houston and Atlanta keeps their cap for 2013-14 they could out right sign him. Regardless you're biased to the lakers.

I'm quite intrigued how this will all shake down this year and next summer.

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Old 07-22-2012, 09:49 AM   #93 (permalink)
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i dont see how atlanta or houston will be able to sign him out right when he'll be signing an extension with brooklyn.
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Old 07-22-2012, 10:04 AM   #94 (permalink)
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i dont see how atlanta or houston will be able to sign him out right when he'll be signing an extension with brooklyn.
It's impossible for Howard to go there now unless its through a trade and at least not till January 15 - assuming that Lopez would need to be included and that can't happen till then. Not sure if the Lakers would want Lopez though, or Houston for that matter.
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don't worry, he'll find a way to extend there
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I disagree. If Houston and Atlanta keeps their cap for 2013-14 they could out right sign him. Regardless you're biased to the lakers.

I'm quite intrigued how this will all shake down this year and next summer.
How am I biased towards Lakers? I don't even think Lakers will get him.

But if he did get traded to Lakers, why would it matter that Houston or Atlanta would have the cap space to sign him? Why he would he leave LA to go to a worse city and team? All the while losing out on almost $30 million in guaranteed money...

Maybe he leaves Houston for Atlanta if he did get traded to rockets, but he'd really have to dislike Houston to do that.

Everything I've said is not really my personal opinion, it's just based off everything I've read about the situation.
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Old 07-22-2012, 01:16 PM   #97 (permalink)
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How am I biased towards Lakers? I don't even think Lakers will get him.

But if he did get traded to Lakers, why would it matter that Houston or Atlanta would have the cap space to sign him? Why he would he leave LA to go to a worse city and team? All the while losing out on almost $30 million in guaranteed money...

Maybe he leaves Houston for Atlanta if he did get traded to rockets, but he'd really have to dislike Houston to do that.

Everything I've said is not really my personal opinion, it's just based off everything I've read about the situation.
My thinking is really based around the age of the Lakers and how Kobe and Nash have put a shelf life on their careers of a couple more years. I'll give SJ props though for commenting on how the evolution of training have really extended a player's career - hard to walk if you're winning big. If D12 is going to stay - if he goes there - the Lakers would need to go far into the playoffs, at least Conference finals or championship game IMO. If the team can't gel a la Knicks I honestly can't see him deciding to stay. He has a boatload of money already, so if what he says about winning is true then the Lakers would have to win big for him to stay. Just my opinion.

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Old 07-22-2012, 01:20 PM   #98 (permalink)
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Of course the aging stars might be a good thing for Howard, in a couple years he'll be the man on that team.
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Of course the aging stars might be a good thing for Howard, in a couple years he'll be the man on that team.
Bingo.
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Of course the aging stars might be a good thing for Howard, in a couple years he'll be the man on that team.
well he was the man in orlando, and he wasn't able to do much. maybe he wants more support this time around? which is what he's been saying all along....
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