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Old 08-25-2014, 02:38 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Earlier this year, David Stern stepped down as commissioner of the National Basketball Association, a post he had held since 1984. Sternís reign was impressive in a certain way: revenues went through the roof, and he expanded the league into a global juggernaut. Basketball is now the second most popular sport on the planet, as league executives consistently remind advertisers.

But Stern left another legacy, one marked by unmistakable racism.

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Old 08-25-2014, 03:29 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Is that article trying to convince me that David Stern and Adam Silver are racist?
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Old 08-25-2014, 03:42 PM   #3 (permalink)
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What an idiotic premise. I guess Gary Betman is racist against white Canadians too since the NHL seemingly locks out its players every 4 years or so.

Comparing these millionaire players to slaves is about as stupid and offensive as you can get. Why don't you go spew that crap in the faces of the many many people out there in the world who ARE getting exploited by the corporations/people they work for and get a pittance as "pay" for their work WHat a joke.

And for the record, I side with the players in pretty much any sport whenever there is a lockout or strike because no matter how much they make, the owners are always making more.
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Stern helped make his "slaves" into cultural icons, not to mention filthy rich. If every racist acted like Stern, we'd be better off.
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What an idiotic premise. I guess Gary Betman is racist against white Canadians too since the NHL seemingly locks out its players every 4 years or so.

Comparing these millionaire players to slaves is about as stupid and offensive as you can get. Why don't you go spew that crap in the faces of the many many people out there in the world who ARE getting exploited by the corporations/people they work for and get a pittance as "pay" for their work WHat a joke.

And for the record, I side with the players in pretty much any sport whenever there is a lockout or strike because no matter how much they make, the owners are always making more.
Bettman is a dick, wouldn't let Hamilton have a team even though they had a legit buyer and infrastructure
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Bettman is a dick, wouldn't let Hamilton have a team even though they had a legit buyer and infrastructure
Yeah, THAT'S why he's a dick. He was a dick way before that.
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The plantation mindset is there as far as i can see. And there are definitely owners as disgusting or worse than Sterling. For as long as the league looked the other way with Sterling, they do as much with a good number of others.

The whole issue with Sterling really made me look hard at what is said at the end of the article.

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If the Sterling situation proves anything, it’s that professional sports owners are unnecessary parasites; the Clippers have had no problems adjusting to his absence. The NFL’s Green Bay Packers are a publicly owned franchise, and they are consistently successful, more proof of how owners could easily be subtracted from the sports world.
When you add in how much we get bilked with public money going to pay for their stadiums and special events, while in a lot of their business dealings outside of sports they prove to be modern day robber barons bilking the public purse to an even greater degree, then the whole system of sports ownership becomes really hard to defend.
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I agree with what you just said, however, that portion of the article was relatively short and I don't think it really flowed with many of the other points in the article. The article addressed many areas, but in my opinion they didn't really flow together to support what was an over-the-top opening statement in that David Stern's legacy was unmistakeably racist.
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Yeah, THAT'S why he's a dick. He was a dick way before that.
Nah I know, that just erks me cause I was excited to have a team in my town. He's a real dick bag but he has done a lot of good for the league as well.
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I agree with what you just said, however, that portion of the article was relatively short and I don't think it really flowed with many of the other points in the article. The article addressed many areas, but in my opinion they didn't really flow together to support what was an over-the-top opening statement in that David Stern's legacy was unmistakeably racist.
Yeah, thinking about it more, i think they inherited any traces of racism. The plantation mentality just lingered more than it was actively exercised. But it does still come into play in the context of what is proposed from the commish, due to it lingering.

Read a piece in Harpers recently about the railroad robber barons a century ago, and at that time they were depicted as an octopus. In a way any commissioner is going to be working to keep those tentacles functioning well. That might be an uglier sort of depiction than labeling either guy as racist.
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Interesting article.

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Stern wouldn’t care if the players in the NBA were white, black or any other race, since capitalist exploitation is designed to enslave anyone who is not positioned to fight back.
Enslaved is a strong word when talking about millionaires but it is rare to read a pro-union/workers-rights article these days.

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That is the most twisted one sided piece of rubbish propaganda I've read in quite a while.
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That is the most twisted one sided piece of rubbish propaganda I've read in quite a while.
You convinced me with your twisted one sided piece of rubbish outburst. I guess i'll just have to delete this whole thread now.
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You convinced me with your twisted one sided piece of rubbish outburst. I guess i'll just have to delete this whole thread now.
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Old 08-26-2014, 12:49 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Is this article even legit?
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Old 08-26-2014, 04:06 PM   #16 (permalink)
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It's from a Socialist periodical, and I don't mean NDP kind-of socialist. It's a Marxist magazine, so you have to realize they're going to be extremely left leaning, very pro-labour, very anti-capitalist class.
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It's from a Socialist periodical, and I don't mean NDP kind-of socialist. It's a Marxist magazine, so you have to realize they're going to be extremely left leaning, very pro-labour, very anti-capitalist class.
You are right that a lot of the observations and ways of understanding those observations are borne out by a socialist perspective of economics, politics, etc. The general thrust of the article is a common one in socialist circles: how capital rules over labour.

Certainly the race element is the most contentious claim of the article. You have to situate things in the broader context, though. Just a one-to-one comparison of the NHL doesn't really cut it (for example, what are the relative shares of revenue the players receive in each respective league, how much is the behaviour of the NHL players controlled by the NBA, and so on). You also have to tackle the examples that do seem racist (for example, why one who wears a hoody is presumed to be a thug of some sort).

I was really hoping that the discussion would be a little bit better than a mix of incredulity and insults.
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