NBA Proposing New Lottery System To Balance Odds
Old 07-16-2014, 05:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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The NBA submitted an official proposal to reform the lottery system, dismissing the Wheel idea in favor a revised weighting system that shifts each team's odds of getting the top pick.

The proposal is essentially an attempt to squeeze the lottery odds at either extreme toward a more balanced system in which all 14 teams have a relatively similar chance at the no. 1 pick, per sources familiar with the proposal.

The new proposal will give at least the four worst teams the same odds of winning the no. 1 pick, approximately 11 percent for each club. The odds decline slowly from there.

The proposal also calls for the drawing of the first six picks via the Ping-Pong ball lottery, sources say.
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Old 07-16-2014, 05:06 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Aslong as they do everything live infront of Camera's I dont care how they do it...

This behind closed doors draws are
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Aslong as they do everything live infront of Camera's I dont care how they do it...

This behind closed doors draws are
is there a league that does it in front of cameras?
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Hmm. Interesting, this would reduce tanking in the league.. Make it such a long shot to get no.1 pick that everyone tries to be competitive and through that making a more exciting NBA. I'm all for it.
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is there a league that does it in front of cameras?
I'm fairly sure the NHL rolls out ping pong balls and the draw is done live, unless they moved on from that method recently.
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is there a league that does it in front of cameras?
Last time I checked, just because every other league does something doesn't make it right or valid.

I think people would rather see the ping pong balls themselves than Dan Gilbert's lucky ass kid get panned to after they 'reveal' each draft position.
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Last time I checked, just because every other league does something doesn't make it right or valid.
Last time I checked, I never said it did.

IMO every non playoff teams should get equal chance at #1. Hell, I'd like every team to get the same chance tbh. Make it so tanking is a thing of the past. Quit rewarding 14 win seasons.
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Last time I checked, I never said it did.

IMO every non playoff teams should get equal chance at #1. Hell, I'd like every team to get the same chance tbh. Make it so tanking is a thing of the past. Quit rewarding 14 win seasons.
can't be every team. The infusion of talent in the top half of the lotto should go to the bottom half of the league. that just makes sense. But I agree with the non play-off teams to have equal chances. That would remove tanking for the most part.
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My worry with making it so every team in the lottery has similar odds, would be that a team that's 8th in a conference who knows they're about to get swept in round 1, would intentionally lose so that they can get into the lottery.
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My worry with making it so every team in the lottery has similar odds, would be that a team that's 8th in a conference who knows they're about to get swept in round 1, would intentionally lose so that they can get into the lottery.
no no, the first 4 teams world have an equal chance - 11% - then the odds decline from there. The first 6 teams would get the ping pong balls then re-order from record from there. I quite like the idea, wouldn't eliminate tanking altogether but you wouldn't see teams be so fk'ing blatant - just hurts the league imo.
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Not a really a fan of this, it would make each team.acctaully try to win so thats good but, I can see some teams actually just suck and them ending up with the 14th pick.

Also I would love to see it live but it won't happen
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Last time I checked, just because every other league does something doesn't make it right or valid.

I think people would rather see the ping pong balls themselves than Dan Gilbert's lucky ass kid get panned to after they 'reveal' each draft position.
Right? Conspiracy theory....

Let's see, LBJ leaves Cleveland for 4 years. Cleveland "wins" 3 out of 4 #1 picks during that time and re-stacks the Cavs. James returns after 4 years to a younger and much stronger team that are mostly on rookie contracts so James will get monster paydays without effecting the team long term...how fortunate.

OH WAIT....what about that one year the Cavs didn't get the #1 pick? Oh yeah, the league owned/run team, NOH "wins" the #1.


I think it's about time the league has the lottery out in the open and into the light. Hell, they do it for the smallest of money lotteries in the real world. If they don't want to be viewed as "fixing" the lottery then televise it - I can not fathom 1 realistic reason not to other than the NBA is for entertainment purposes only and is nothing more than another version of the WWE.

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Right? Conspiracy theory....

Let's see, LBJ leaves Cleveland for 4 years. Cleveland "wins" 3 out of 4 #1 picks during that time and re-stacks the Cavs. James returns after 4 years to a younger and much stronger team that are mostly on rookie contracts so James will get monster paydays without effecting the team long term...how fortunate.

OH WAIT....what about that one year the Cavs didn't get the #1 pick? Oh yeah, the league owned/run team, NOH "wins" the #1.


I think it's about time the league has the lottery out in the open and into the light. Hell, they do it for the smallest of money lotteries in the real world. If they don't want to be viewed as "fixing" the lottery then televise it - I can not fathom 1 realistic reason not to other than the NBA is for entertainment purposes only and is nothing more than another version of the WWE.
First 3 years they were really bad, they had good chances to win but I'm kinda of skeptical of this years, their chances were pretty low like under 2%. This is very similar to the bulls in 08/ who won and got to pick their hometown guy. Probably a coincidence but could be something else, however, owners/gms don't complain so who cares
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First 3 years they were really bad, they had good chances to win but I'm kinda of skeptical of this years, their chances were pretty low like under 2%. This is very similar to the bulls in 08/ who won and got to pick their hometown guy. Probably a coincidence but could be something else, I don't care much, owners don't complain son who cares
Owners don't worry much as they all reap the benefits of the league. As the league grows they all get richer. Check what these NBA teams are selling for lately?
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Owners don't worry much as they all reap the benefits of the league. As the league grows they all get richer. Check what these NBA teams are selling for lately?
yeah so why should we really care if cavs get 1st, owners should be pissed if something is going on.

besides, i think an owner is stupid for tanking, that just create less profits cause no one wants to watch a shit team unless prices are cheap.
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yeah so why should we really care if cavs get 1st, owners should be pissed if something is going on.

besides, i think an owner is stupid for tanking, that just create less profits cause no one wants to watch a shit team unless prices are cheap.
Plenty of people in Toronto love watching a shit team with ticket prices that aren't cheap. I'm talking about the horrible Maple Leafs.

Others throughout the 4 major North American Sports would be:

Lakers
Knicks
Canucks
Cowboys
Yankees
Cubs

I agree that any owner that tanks is a complete idiot, but some sports franchise owners just don't give a shit about the product because they know the fans are stupid enough to keep paying the ridiculous prices to see the shit product. In the end, most of those owners still come out making a ton of cash.
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If this was 3 years ago and we were a lottery team I would call the NBA rigged. Not cool. Leave it alone. the crap teams are coming aournd and everything goes in cycles because the tax is working.
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If this was 3 years ago and we were a lottery team I would call the NBA rigged. Not cool. Leave it alone. the crap teams are coming aournd and everything goes in cycles because the tax is working.
From what we all saw last few year, no 'tax' isn't working. 76ers traded away Jrue holiday to tank, that's just disgusting tbh. They had a chance to get better but they decided 'na, let's lose on purpose'. It makes it a boring and bad sport. It's not 'fixed', it's broken. NBA should try to fix it, and I think this is a good idea. It wont eliminate it completely but teams will be much less reluctant to suck so bad on purpose.
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If they don't want to be viewed as "fixing" the lottery then televise it
Maybe they realize people will conspire no matter what instead of just accepting reality. That chance is chance. There is almost always a conspiracy for every damn draft for just about every team. It's like if it's not their team it's pretty much 'rigged'. If we were lottery bound and we won, everyone would be SOOO sure it'd be fixed (other then Raptors fan) because Wiggins is Canadian projected to go first (or 2nd or 3rd, w/e). Cavs? Fixed as well. Sacremento returned to their city? How about a pick? Fixed. Lakers are losing?! Give em a pick? Fixed. Didn't the beloved Lakers who have everything fixed for them go lower in the draft? What's your reasoning their? Not their year to be fixed? It'd be 'too obvious'? I'd love to hear the conspiracy for that.

If I was them, I'd just be tired of hearing it and ignore it all together. I bet you anything if it ended up being exactly the way it looked in the standings and bucks ended up getting the no.1 overall people would be saying "Oh they decided to not do anything this year to make it look legit." Then next year some other team gets the pick and it's fixed for some other reason. For people who think it's rigged, explain to me every no.1 overall selection, tell me why it's rigged? Watch there be few years they'd be saying something stupid as what I just said to justify it not being rigged."Oh they decided to not do anything this year to make it look legit." So tired of hearing games today and draft being rigged, if you really believe that stop watching it already... Unless you enjoy your 'fake' basketball. Or maybe perhaps realize how paranoid and unfair you are when you lose out.
They wont 'prove' it's not rigged because there's no reason to. There's no evidence of the draft being rigged.
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