Muthu Alagappan's ideas and how it's changing NBA philosophy
Old 06-02-2013, 06:05 PM   #1 (permalink)
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The new positions of basketball: Muthu Alagappan at TEDxSpokane - YouTube


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Old 06-02-2013, 07:39 PM   #2 (permalink)
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That was great. He's the kind of guy that teams are looking to add to their staff. More coaches need to consult with analytics guys to effectively use their players and get them to play at their peak potential. Too many coaches are stuck in their ways and unwilling to change their systems for the betterment of their personnel, Casey being a prime example with his use of Lowry especially this past season.
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If the Raps are interested in bringing in an analytics guys theres Zach Lowe at Grantland
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If I was eating a lot of shrooms and knew basketball like I know women's fashion, I might also think this man belongs on an NBA coaching staff.

This is the type of guy Collangelo hires.
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If I was eating a lot of shrooms and knew basketball like I know women's fashion, I might also think this man belongs on an NBA coaching staff.

This is the type of guy Collangelo hires.
Daryl Morey and many other GMs disagree with you. Almost every team has guys like this that deal solely with the analytical side of the game that consult with the GM and coaching staff to try and improve how players are used and how teams can improve situation/position/play wise.
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the new sportsVU system that the Raptors use and what other teamsare trying to get their hands on is evidence to what Ball dont lie is saying

The Toronto Raptors, SportVU cameras, and the NBA's analytical revolution - Grantland
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They have a lot of money and a lot of time on their hands. They should be doing this stuff.
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between the old school and the analytics side of things, the truth is somewhere in the middle. A nice balance of the two is needed to put together an effective squad. A heavy reliance on one or the other isn't a great vision.
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So this dude looks at all the most successful uses of the triangle offense in terms of what kinds of players should be plugged in where. Congratulations. Why does he suppose certain types of players prevailed in certain roles? Maybe because that was clear to enough people before a ton of data was collected? And you need a bunch of data to figure out that you should defend by going under screens against pick and rolls with a pg that doesn't want to shoot?
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Thought; I agree somewhat with what you are saying. Except organic decision making isn't old school. it's basketball.

Anaytics aren't new school - they're a tool in a tool belt. People on this forum are kidding themselves thinking they are a 'revolution'. They've watched to much Moneyball and they want to be the next Brad Pitt or the next Jonas brother.

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So this dude looks at all the most successful uses of the triangle offense in terms of what kinds of players should be plugged in where. Congratulations. Why does he suppose certain types of players prevailed in certain roles? Maybe because that was clear to enough people before a ton of data was collected? And you need a bunch of data to figure out that you should defend by going under screens against pick and rolls with a pg that doesn't want to shoot?
Without taking the time to watch the entire video - I would also say it's very backwards thinking. Pigeon-holing certain types of players into the triangle offense would make Tex Winters' son scream on his behalf.

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So this dude looks at all the most successful uses of the triangle offense in terms of what kinds of players should be plugged in where. Congratulations. Why does he suppose certain types of players prevailed in certain roles? Maybe because that was clear to enough people before a ton of data was collected? And you need a bunch of data to figure out that you should defend by going under screens against pick and rolls with a pg that doesn't want to shoot?
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Without taking the time to watch the entire video - I would also say it's very backwards thinking. Pidgeon-holing certain types of players into the triangle offense would make Tex Winters' son scream on his behalf.
Pigeon holing? Isn't that part of analytics - pigeon holing players to their strengths?
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