Most Lopsided Trades in (recent) NBA History

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View Poll Results: Which deal was the most lopsided in NBA (recent) history?
1) Gasol deal to Lakers 3 16.67%
2) Carter deal to New Jersey 5 27.78%
3) Pippen deal to Chicago 3 16.67%
4) Nash deal to Suns 0 0%
5) Kobe deal to Lakers 0 0%
6) Dirk's draft rights deal to Mavericks 5 27.78%
7) Barkley deal to Suns 0 0%
8) Baron Davis deal to Warriors 2 11.11%
9) Butler & Odom deal to Lakers for Shaq 0 0%
Other 0 0%
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Old 06-04-2008, 02:49 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Choose and discuss and if I missed one please choose "Other" and state which you think was the most lopsided.

1) Grizz trade Gasol to the Lakers for Kwame Brown, Crittendon, Marc Gasol (!), McKie, and 2 1st round draft picks.

2) Raptors send Carter to the Nets in exchange for Eric Williams, Aaron Williams, Mourning and two first-round draft picks.

3) Sonics trade Pippen to the Bulls for Olden Polynice.

4) Suns trade Nash to the Mavericks for Muursepp, Bubba Wells, the draft rights to Garrity and a first round draft pick.

5) Hornets send the rights for Kobe to the Lakers for Vlade Divac.

6) Bucks trade the rights to Tractor Traylor to the Mavericks for the rights to Nowitzki and the rights to Garrity.

7) Sixers trade Barkley to the Phoenix Suns for Hornacek, Tim Perry and Andrew Lang.

8) Hornets send Baron Davis to the Warriors for Speedy Claxton and Dale Davis.

9) Heat trade Caron Butler, Lamar Odom, Brian Grant, and a 1st round pick to the Los Angeles Lakers for Shaquille O'Neal.

10) Other.
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Old 06-04-2008, 03:26 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Pippen for Polynice.

Even though he hadn't played an NBA game before he was traded, sending a guy who would be come a top 50 NBA player and the real driving force behind the Bulls Dynasty for Olden is IMO the most lopsided deal.
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Old 06-04-2008, 03:39 PM   #3 (permalink)
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wowsers... those are some seriously crazy trades...
hindsight is 20/20 of course, but seriously look at a few of those:

4) Suns trade Nash to the Mavericks for Muursepp, Bubba Wells, the draft rights to Garrity and a first round draft pick.

5) Hornets send the rights for Kobe to the Lakers for Vlade Divac.

6) Bucks trade the rights to Tractor Traylor to the Mavericks for the rights to Nowitzki and the rights to Garrity.

8) Hornets send Baron Davis to the Warriors for Speedy Claxton and Dale Davis.

9) Heat trade Caron Butler, Lamar Odom, Brian Grant, and a 1st round pick to the Los Angeles Lakers for Shaquille O'Neal.

Jeez!
they are all steals now... i guess at the time they looked decent on paper.


i think the really bad ones are:

1) Grizz trade Gasol to the Lakers for Kwame Brown, Crittendon, Marc Gasol (!), McKie, and 2 1st round draft picks.

2) Raptors send Carter to the Nets in exchange for Eric Williams, Aaron Williams, Mourning and two first-round draft picks.

moreso because they were terrible right away... everyone knows who got fleeced and who won.
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Old 06-04-2008, 03:44 PM   #4 (permalink)
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When gasols brother comes to the NBA, they wont think it was such a terrible deal. Is a bad deal, but not that bad..

I really dont know wich one to chose. Baron davis one is pretty bad.
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Old 06-04-2008, 03:44 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Gasol is a bad one, but what has Vince done in New jersey other than continue his pathetic act? He had to go...
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Old 06-04-2008, 03:54 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Yah, that Vince trade was so lopsided that it propelled NJ to the heights of NBA dominance and the Raps into the depths of crapdom from which they could never dream of escaping.
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Old 06-04-2008, 04:24 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Let's look at these deals:

1) Grizz trade Gasol to the Lakers for Kwame Brown, Crittendon, Marc Gasol (!), McKie, and 2 1st round draft picks.
It looks bad right now because the Lakers are making a run for it, and Pau looks energized. But let's be real here - this guy was languishing in Memphis and got them nowhere in the playoffs. I don't think they even won a playoff game. Since the deal, he's been playing out of his mind. In my honest opinion, it's not that bad of a deal. The 2 draft picks they can package, Brown comes off the books creating more cap space and the younger Gasol I think will be a very solid player.


2) Raptors send Carter to the Nets in exchange for Eric Williams, Aaron Williams, Mourning and two first-round draft picks.
This was a fleece job at the time and in terms of talent at the moment of the deal. Aaron Williams was essentially dealt for 2nd round picks which I think were dealt to Detroit for Delfino. Eric Williams was part of the deal for Rasho, Mounring was a total write off, one of the first round picks was acquired to select Joey Graham and the other was dealt to New York for cap space. I think that pick was Renaldo Balkman, or you could say that it was cap space for Anthony Parker.
Break it down, it looks like this: Carter for Delfino, Nesterovic, Graham and Parker/Balkman - not great by any means, but better than what it originally seemed. It also enabled us to net Colangelo, cause if that Carter deal turned out to be fantastic, Babcock would still be the GM. Since being acquired by Jersey, Carter still hasn't made it out of the 2nd round and is now a whiney malcontent.

3) Sonics trade Pippen to the Bulls for Olden Polynice.
Pretty bad trade in hindsight. Polynice did nothing before being shipped off to the Clippers and Pippen became one of the NBA's 50 Greatest players of all-time.

4) Suns trade Nash to the Mavericks for Muursepp, Bubba Wells, the draft rights to Garrity and a first round draft pick.
The only thing that alleviated the sting was the fact the Suns reacquired Nash as a FA a few years later

5) Hornets send the rights for Kobe to the Lakers for Vlade Divac.
If Kobe didn't pan out it would have looked like robbery for Charlotte. Divac was solid in Charlotte, but unfortunately, Kobe turned into one of the best players of all-time.

6) Bucks trade the rights to Tractor Traylor to the Mavericks for the rights to Nowitzki and the rights to Garrity.
Tractor Traylor is now trying to make a comeback and Nowitzki is a perennial MVP candidate. Smokeshow by the Mavs GM at the time.

7) Sixers trade Barkley to the Phoenix Suns for Hornacek, Tim Perry and Andrew Lang.
Barkley insisted he wanted out of Philly, but this wasn't that bad of a deal for the Sixers at the time. Hornacek was coming off an all-star season, Perry was an emerging wingman entering his prime (his last year in Phoenix he averaged over 12 points and 7 boards). As for Lang.. well, he was a big body. He was 25-26 and averaging close to 7 and 7 per game. Those dudes never panned out and well, Barkley became an MVP and the Suns a perennial contender for years.


8) Hornets send Baron Davis to the Warriors for Speedy Claxton and Dale Davis.
Yeah.. I don't know about this deal. Hornets were out to lunch on this one.



9) Heat trade Caron Butler, Lamar Odom, Brian Grant, and a 1st round pick to the Los Angeles Lakers for Shaquille O'Neal.
If the Lakers had kept Caron Butler, this deal would be quite even. Then again, Butler turned into Kwame Brown which turned into Pau Gasol. Sure, Shaq lead Miami to a title, but he fell off after that.. and later turned into Shawn Marion. I'd call this even maybe even in favour of LA, especially if the Lakers win the championship

So, in turn, the worst deals in all of this are:

1) Pippen-Polynice
2) Traylor-Nowitzki
3) BDavis-Claxton/DDavis

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Old 06-04-2008, 05:43 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Carter deal... they only thing Raps got out of it was Joey Graham... and we know how good he is.
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I think there are 2 main types of lopsided trades here:

1.) An established player is traded for crap and draft picks

ex.) The Carter and Gasol trades comes to mind


2.) A young player with potential is traded for another player/s

ex.) Nash, Nowitzki, Pippen, Kobe trades


I think Type 1 trades may be the worst kind of lopsided trade because you know you are giving up a solid player and getting crap in return making the GM look like a fool.

Type 2 is all dependent on the ability of the young player to reach their potential which can be very difficult to predict. At the time it may have seemed like a good trade, but came back to bite the GM in the ass.

My 2 cents: This is the danger of trading a young player like Bargnani, who years later could blossom on another team.
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My 2 cents: This is the danger of trading a young player like Bargnani, who years later could blossom on another team.
+1. We have to pray for his development for one more year
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Old 06-04-2008, 07:22 PM   #11 (permalink)
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The Gasol and Carter ones were the worst because they already knew the player was good. As opposed to say Kobe and Nash, who were mid first round draft picks yet to pan out.

You could also throw in Atlanta giving up the rights to Gasol as the #3 pick for an aging, battered Shareef-Abdur Raheem who would be useless within 3 years. Again if Atlanta would've kept Gasol, they would've sucked enough to get a top 5 pick in the 03 draft, and considering they would've already had a Euro center, they'd probably pick one of the wing players. Lebron/Gasol, Anthony/Gasol, Wade/Gasol... as opposed to missing the playoffs for 8 straight years. Billy King's masterpiece!
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Old 06-04-2008, 07:55 PM   #12 (permalink)
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This explains it all



I love how much Stephen A. bashes Kwame

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