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Old 05-15-2012, 08:18 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I think Metta is doing nothing wrong here, he said it perfectly on the late show, he's sorry, happy he's not severely hurt, and wants too keep his edge by not personally apologizing....
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Old 05-15-2012, 11:51 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Geez where to start.. Rivalry comes from competition. We haven't had any success, so it's tough to have a rival. Injuries do not have anything to do with this. You can have healthy competition without hurting a guy. He gave Harden a concussion. Either you don't understand the potential long term ramifications of such an event, or your sense of competition is disgustingly twisted.

I hate the love fest that often takes place on the court. I love physical play when it is still playing basketball. Elbowing a guy in the head has no place in the sport, I don't give a shit how competitive you are. You don't want to shake his hand? Great. Then say "It's regrettable what happened to James, and I wish it hadn't happened. But he doesn't start so I wouldn't even have a chance to shake his hand if I wanted". Do not come off as an mindless thug (keep in mind you already got yourself this rep, so you in particular have to be careful) and say "I don't shake hands with subs". You come off as a moron, while providing motivation to the other team.

I would love a league void of malicious acts. You can play a tough, competitive, physical game without intending to hurt someone.

I implore you to be the one to just think about it.
Well your first mistake is assuming I agreed with the elbow, don't make assumptions, it was a cheap shot and I think everyone gets it. Your second mistake is assuming that I either don't understand concussions, or that I have a twisted idea of what competition is. Thats preposterous from the get go seeing as I have had a few concussions, one playing Basketball after being undercut by some guy, the other walking my Dog and slipping on ice (very graceful), then having it re-occur playing Hockey. The Basketball one was a cheap shot.

I am at the age of 39, and have been since I was a child a very cerebral athlete/ fan. The big picture with this involves a part of human nature and reality that you will never eradicate. Ever. I mean shit, William Goulding can write classics abot it, and half the teams sports team on the planet it seems are called he SPARTANS yet still, we claim nobody cares for the warrior mentality. UFC is the fastest growing sport on earth, but hey, we all say its for cememnt heads when it's brought p at a nice dinner with our smart friends. Why the hell do we feel like we need to deny that we like the raw emotion and agression that comes with a contact sport???.

Do athletes have to always make you smile, do the right thing, say the right thing?? Does Chales have to com eon TV and tell you again that he isn't your role model.He doesn't want to shake his hand, so what. Is it a Dick move? Sure, but to sit there in some fucked up Pollyanna state of mind a long for the day where there is absolutely no wrong doing in a physical sport filled with 250lb testosterone driven athletes is whats twisted. These dudes are designed to act in the moment, and they do, and the intensity is what draws crowds.

I can't take a guy serious who would sit and tell me that Professional sports rivalries would exist solely on good, hard, and lean competitive spirit. Thats what the cheerleaders are there for. Thats a minimal requirement just to have an inkling of a chance to even GET to that level. Fact is these guys play on the edge, and somtimes cross into that bad place where we all like sit in judgement, but we all still watch, and it gets us emotionally involved in the game, our team, and the rivalries that are created when our best players get hit.

I'm not sure how many times a Nicely drawn charge or a blocked shot ever started a full on rivalry. "Oh my, did you see AK47 hstle back and take that charge, wow, they sure will have a good hate on for Utah next game, I smell me a rivalry". HELL NO!! I can tell you this though, Bill Laimbeer single handedly created 3-4 of them all by himself with hard fouls.... nobody has a shirt that says "The Utah Jazz: Great defence" But I bet half the guys on this board, or someone they know has a Detroit Pistons Bad Boys shirt.

Twist that up and think on it. Just becase you may not like my tone, doesn't mean I'm a troglodite, even if I can't spell it. It also doesn't mean I think Artest should be rnning around elbowing people in the head. I just know why it;s there, and I know why Professional sports needs it.

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Old 05-15-2012, 11:57 PM   #23 (permalink)
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thumbs up, except the talking about yourself bit
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Old 05-15-2012, 11:59 PM   #24 (permalink)
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heehee.

spellcheck might be nice too.
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Old 05-16-2012, 12:05 AM   #25 (permalink)
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For me, what really got me steamed was prior to last night's game he said that Harden knew he was in celebration mode and got in his way on purpose and then when he got hit he dove and embelished it.
MWP is right except for the embelishment part.
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Old 05-16-2012, 12:45 PM   #26 (permalink)
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I can't take a guy serious who would sit and tell me that Professional sports rivalries would exist solely on good, hard, and lean competitive spirit. Thats what the cheerleaders are there for. Thats a minimal requirement just to have an inkling of a chance to even GET to that level. Fact is these guys play on the edge, and somtimes cross into that bad place where we all like sit in judgement, but we all still watch, and it gets us emotionally involved in the game, our team, and the rivalries that are created when our best players get hit.

Twist that up and think on it. Just becase you may not like my tone, doesn't mean I'm a troglodite, even if I can't spell it. It also doesn't mean I think Artest should be rnning around elbowing people in the head. I just know why it;s there, and I know why Professional sports needs it.

Fair is fair, I think I took some liberties with your viewpoint that were my own creation. I am in complete agreement that sports ride on the edge of physicality, but I don't agree that you need malicious intent. Hard fouls, great. Elbowing guys to the head? Stupid. I can't compute you saying Artest shouldn't be doing it, yet you understand the need for it. There is no need for it. There's literally no place in sports for the intent to seriously injure someone, when it's not even in the context of the game.

This isn't MMA. If i wanted to watch future brain damage victims I would. What would have happened if Harden missed the next whole year from that hit? Would you still say, well the NBA needs it so oh well? You want to throw elbows into guts down low, slam a guy on a hard screen, hit someone with a hard foul to prevent a lay-up? Absolutely. I just think there's a line. When you're swinging at someone's head, you've crossed it.
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Old 05-16-2012, 01:22 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Intent is the key word that shades this particular incident grey.
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Old 05-16-2012, 03:06 PM   #28 (permalink)
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There's literally no place in sports for the intent to seriously injure someone, when it's not even in the context of the game.
You're right, which is excatly why there is a ned for it, a place for it, and is exactly why I am right. You prove my point by your very participation in this conversation.

Anyhow, Glad we had it...you're ok in my books.
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