Mark Jackson & Jeff Van Gundy
Old 04-08-2009, 06:07 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I can remember when Mark Jackson first started announcing with VanGundy. It was a little tense in the beginning, at least at moments, as VanGundy seemed to almost salivate at the chance to cut into Mark Jackson. But Mark proved to continually handle VanGundy with composure, and you could tell as they worked together more and more, VanGundy started to give Mark more and more respect. VanGundy still pounces on Jackson at times, but both have become comfortable with each other about it, and they've really developed some chemistry.

They've become a pretty fun duo to listen to, and I'm glad whenever they are on.

And Mike Breen provides the strong foundation for the two of them to do their thing.
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Old 04-08-2009, 06:12 PM   #2 (permalink)
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They are atrocious!!! They ruined last year's finals for me! THE WORST. It's so painful to go from the brilliant Kevin Harlan throughout earlier rounds of the playoffs, to ABC's broadcast of the finals. TNT is FAR superior!
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Old 04-08-2009, 06:16 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Hubie Brown FTW.
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i agree cory. i love that trio. smart, close enough to the players to not be totally out of touch, and, basketball-wise, very interesting to listen to.
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Hubie Brown FTW.
Indeed.

I enjoy mark Jackson and Van Gundy too though. I like how Van Gundy says whatever its on his mind and doesnt suckup to the league.
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Old 04-08-2009, 06:26 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I like Hubie Brown a lot.

Van Gundy is comical because, yeah, he expresses controversial and intelligent opinions, and isn't afraid to offend. Mark Jackson isn't nearly as vitriolic and quick minded, but he does solid play-by-play commentary when they do replays, and it's always funny when he gets in disagreements with VanGundy.

And Mike Breen tends to not take sides, reeling the boys in when they get out of hand. Funny guys to listen to, if you ask me.
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extra points for using 'vitriolic' in a sentence.
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Old 04-08-2009, 06:32 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Marc Jackson is okay but Hubie brown and Mike Tirico are the best. I like Van Gundy a lot better than Marc since his thoughts and opinions are the better than marc jackson. the worst in michael wilbon. I remember him saying last year that "I think Doc Rivers deserves COY since he trusted his young point guard Rajon Rando". What an idiot.
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I like JVG for having a mind of his own, and a real insider's POV. I could do without Jackson. I find it funny that everything he professes as important he wasn't able to deliver for JVG when he was playing, particularly defense.
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Marc Jackson is okay but Hubie brown and Mike Tirico are the best. I like Van Gundy a lot better than Marc since his thoughts and opinions are the better than marc jackson. the worst in michael wilbon. I remember him saying last year that "I think Doc Rivers deserves COY since he trusted his young point guard Rajon Rando". What an idiot.

i wouldn't want to see marc jackson doing any commentary at all...



mark jackson, on the other hand, is great, imo.





ok, i've had a long day and i'm just being douche-y...

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Old 04-08-2009, 06:58 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Van Gundy is the best. He has real and recent NBA coaching expirience and he says the best stuff.

One time he said, Kobe is one of the best rebounders in the league off of a missed foul shot, it's a mistake to have a rookie box him out. And that same play... he got the board and flew in for a dunk. He knows subtleties of players and he's one of the best.

Jackson on the other hand... doesn't really add anything.
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Mark Jackson puts me to sleep. Van Gundy's decent.

I don't know what to make of Hubie. I've caught some early 90s games where he's commentating, and it sounds like an insightful guy who genuinely knows his stuff. Nowadays he just states the obvious and gives you stats.

I like the Albert- Fratello combo on TNT.
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Old 04-08-2009, 07:08 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I'll tell you who should never be an announcer: Charles Barkley. He's a real likable guy, but his voice on TNT halftime reports is hard to understand sometimes. It's like he struggles to articulate words clearly.

And that's why Mark Jackson is solid. He has a good voice for the role. He's not the most subtle analytical mind, he goofs sometimes, but that's part of his charm, especially when JVG rips into him. It's comical.

"Mama, there goes that man"

It's a gimmick, sure, but it's an endearing one.
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Jackson and the other guy give the balance needed so it doesnt become annoying because Van Gundy is too intense sometimes. You need contrast in order to succed.
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Old 04-08-2009, 07:27 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Who remembers Bill Walton announcing for NBC?

This article will make you lol:

Bill Walton, the NBA's wonderful, infuriating announcer. - By Bryan Curtis - Slate Magazine

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No official's whistle passes without the NBC color man's praise—"That's an easy call to make!"—or his disapproval—"Terrrrrrrrrible call!" At other times, Walton eschews sports jargon altogether and lapses into trippy '60s nature-speak: "The Lakers' offense, flowing like a river, downhill, over the waterfall …"

When Walton speaks, his sentences rarely, if ever, end. During Game 6 of the Western Conference Finals, he said of Shaq: "The footwork, the balance, the determination, the poise, the decision-making …" And then he just trailed off into oblivion.

Then there's his delivery. Walton speaks in a deep, oafish drawl, as distinctive as Howard Cosell's rat-a-tat and equally as grating. To compensate for a lifelong stutter, Walton also overpronounces words, which gives his speech an arrogant twist."
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ESPNS crews are actually pretty good but their presentation and the guys in the studio and the preferential treatment they give is atrocious. JVG is the best color commentator in the league now with Walton out
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It would be good for the league if Jeff Van Gundy and Mark Jackson stay out of coaching for another year. JVG and Jax have become a delightful duo on ABC's Sunday games, disagreeing without being disagreeable, obviously knowledgeable (still can't believe Van Gundy, last year, pre-called Kobe Bryant beating the Mavericks for an offensive rebound off a missed free throw that hadn't been missed yet). Unlike many ex-players, Jackson isn't afraid to call out former peers. They're a good team with play-by-play man Mike Breen.
from NBA.com 10 things that would be good for the league lol. Just as I posted this NBA.com recognized that Van Gundy call with Kobe over the rookie lol. He's done so many like that... amazing.
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Yeah, the JVG kobe free-throw/rebound prediction is pretty strange. And he does have some consistently impressive insights, sometimes making me think he has something in common with those high functioning savants who can calculate numbers of mind boggling magnitude.
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Old 04-08-2009, 08:05 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Walton is the best.

Hubie and Dick Stockton were good too.

JVG is awesome as well.
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