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Claudius 01-26-2012 08:55 PM

Mark Cuban not a fan of the NBA in the Olympics
 
I understand his point as an owner, but one can make a strong argument it is because of the original Dream Team and the NBA being involved in the olympics that has allowed the league to become more of a global phenomenon. I like Cuban, but I think he's completely wrong on this one.

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Having seen promising young guard Rodrigue Beaubois go down playing for France and now seeing face of the franchise Dirk Nowitzki nursing an injury and out of Dallas' lineup after playing for Germany, Mavericks owner Mark Cuban said he will continue the uphill battle to make international basketball off limits to handsomely paid NBA players.

Cuban has argued that NBA owners should not be saddled with the full risk of their players suiting up for their countries in the offseason, and he said other owners agree with him but aren't as vocal in their opposition.

"It's just the epitome of stupidity that we would allow ourselves to be used so other corporations" -- as Cuban calls the Olympics -- "can make tens, if not hundreds of millions of dollars," Cuban said. "There's some guys sitting at the Olympic headquarters going, 'Those dumb-asses, we're taking all their best guys for nothing.' "

Cuban knows he's unlikely to bring change to the system, but he said he will continue "fighting so that we'll pull out."

Cuban has repeatedly voiced his displeasure to NBA commissioner David Stern, but his complaints have fallen on deaf ears. He said he tried to make it a topic of discussion during the collective bargaining agreement negotiations over the summer, but that attempt also failed.

"The commissioner's office won't open it up to discussion. They just make a unilateral call," Cuban said Monday. "They'll take calls about it, but won't put it up for a vote. Hopefully, I can get him to move it to a vote at some point."

Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban not a fan of international games for NBA players - ESPN Dallas

Superjudge 01-27-2012 08:16 AM

Meh, every team hates the Olympics if their player is the guy that goes down.

fancylad 01-27-2012 09:05 AM

whatever. The Olympic tournament - just like in hockey - is the most important international competition in the entire sport of basketball. It means the most to the players and the fans. I can understand where Cuban's coming from, but i don't really care as a basketball fan.

'trane 01-27-2012 09:43 AM

i'm definitely with cuban on this one.

on a business level, he pays for the asset, and injuries are a real problem for him as an owner. if the olympics has insurance to pay off salary for missed games and the nba grants significant cap relief to compensate for injured players, that would be one thing, but they don't.

on a fan level, we build the olympics up as if it has some special significance, but it really doesn't. it's a luxury for all of us - and a welcome one at that - but owners of sports teams have the potential much more significant losses that would have to be accounted for.

fancylad 01-27-2012 10:18 AM

true trane, but every sport has it's important international competitions. They all do. Some are more important than others, and the Olympic tournament is thee marquee event for basketball. Club soccer teams must hate the world cup and Euro because of risks of injury, but never would they tell a player that they can't play in those competitions becuase they're just too important -and that's what the Olympics has become in this case. Sorry Cuban, but to use the wisdom of one Jay Triano, "what the F*ck you gonna do?"

'trane 01-27-2012 10:41 AM

i don't think the olympics is important at all. it's fun, but it is a luxury. cuban has tens, if not hundreds, of millions on the line. i understand his concern.

money does not rule, but the nba has not done anything to offset the potential for huge losses.

LX 01-27-2012 10:53 AM

And VISA and Coke make big gains with little cost. There really should be a better balance all the way around. Financially, and in terms of changing the structure of the NBA schedule so that international competition is less onerous.

fancylad 01-27-2012 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by 'trane (Post 605746)
i don't think the olympics is important at all. it's fun, but it is a luxury. cuban has tens, if not hundreds, of millions on the line. i understand his concern.

money does not rule, but the nba has not done anything to offset the potential for huge losses.

It's important as far as international basketball goes.

I get that it's a financial risk for the owners and that's why they don't like it, but that's the way international competition goes.

What do you think is the most important or maybe i should say most meaningful international competition for basketball?

'trane 01-27-2012 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by fancylad (Post 605749)
It's important as far as international basketball goes.

I get that it's a financial risk for the owners and that's why they don't like it, but that's the way international competition goes.

What do you think is the most important or maybe i should say most meaningful international competition for basketball?

i don't put any importance in international competitions in any sport. i think patriotism, by and large, is way overblown. to quote vonnegut a little out of context, "if you want to study a granfalloon, just remove the skin of a toy balloon."

it's all pretty meaningless.

the thing about basketball, and a few other sports, is that a single star player is incredibly pricey and a significant difference-maker. on top of that, the market is not exactly full of top tier talent, and replacements are pretty much unavailable.

it's fun, and within context has some value, but if i'm cuban and i stand to lose tens or hundreds of millions because my guys want to have some meaningless fun, i'm not going to be happy about that at all.

th1 01-31-2012 12:42 PM

Did Cuban pay for the german basketball school, where Dirk learned many of his skills ? Did he pay for all the infrastructure and human resources that countries invested into their sport industries ? I don't think so. Countries invest billions of dollars to have good athletes. None of those athletes has to pay a single penny. Countries gives them everything for free in hope they will represent these countries in international tournaments. Does Cuban think great athletes comes out of nowhere ? If he pays billions of dollars to Germany he can keep Nowitzki, otherwise he can go fuck him self


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