Lockout official

jeffb · 08-16-2011, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by fancylad

What else does Matt Boner tell you?

He doesn't tell me shit

finstock · 08-17-2011, 02:26 AM

Remember Alf pogs -- I mean Cherokee Parks? He's back, in non pog form.

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Parks has signed with Aubenas, a team that plays in the fourth division in France as far as I can tell, according to the team's official website. The 6-foot-11 center has already reported to the team, apparently deciding that he doesn't want to sit idle during this NBA lockout like he did during the 1998 version.

NBA Lockout: Cherokee Parks Is Back In Basketball, Ending Eight-Year Retirement - Ridiculous Upside

Toby · 08-26-2011, 08:23 PM

If Stern had any kahunas, he'd allow the owners to hire scrubs to play out the 2011-12 season making a maximum of league minimum only. Instead of being paid an exuberant lifestyle, even if you stink ass.

Superjudge · 08-26-2011, 08:35 PM

id totally watch NBA scab ball!

6cubed · 08-26-2011, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Superjudge

id totally watch NBA scab ball!

In that case, if the Raptors kept their current roster they may as well make the 2nd round of the playoffs

js12 · 08-27-2011, 12:02 PM

Some good news about lockout.

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David Stern wants progress in the NBA's collective bargaining talks by Labor Day. He may get his wish.

Officials from the league and players' association will meet again next week, people with knowledge of the plans told The Associated Press on Thursday. It will be only the second session involving leaders from both sides since the lockout started July 1.

"If Labor Day comes and goes without us huddled in ready to kiss off our Labor Day weekend to make this deal, then we may be headed to a bad place," Stern said during an ESPN.com podcast earlier this month.

Next week's session will include top negotiators for both sides: Stern and deputy commissioner Adam Silver, as well as union executive director Billy Hunter and president Derek Fisher of the Los Angeles Lakers.

Report: NBA, union to meet again next week - ESPN Los Angeles

Superjudge · 08-27-2011, 03:16 PM

Derek Fisher eh......

hmm.

Are these people even serious? Is Fisher a smart dude or just there to be a payer rep on hand?

carp · 08-27-2011, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Superjudge

Derek Fisher eh......

hmm.

Are these people even serious? Is Fisher a smart dude or just there to be a payer rep on hand?

He's a figurehead.... players like to think they're more involved than they are and that it's not just suits arguing with suits.

Superjudge · 08-27-2011, 03:37 PM

oh. I was asking because i really don't know. I don't follow closely. Players union reps sometimes are smart dudes and are involved in the discussions.

I think they both wanna have something done.... I just think the players don't wanna give, and sadly for them, they are gonna have to give. Hell, if the league folded, the owners write it off.... the players..... well.... there's always rucker park.

carp · 08-27-2011, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Superjudge

oh. I was asking because i really don't know. I don't follow closely. Players union reps sometimes are smart dudes and are involved in the discussions.

I think they both wanna have something done.... I just think the players don't wanna give, and sadly for them, they are gonna have to give. Hell, if the league folded, the owners write it off.... the players..... well.... there's always rucker park.

I'm sure he's more intelligent than alot of players, but I can't see him being able to win a debate against any one of the members on the league's team, guys that are actually hired for that job specifically.

The players will lose, especially when the majority of them actually will feel the financial pinch sooner than most owners.

Superjudge · 08-27-2011, 03:47 PM

Well it isn't about winning or losing. It's about getting a deal that they feel is fair.

in the end they are all happy anyhow.... this is why these lock outs are frustrating for fans.

carp · 08-27-2011, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Superjudge

Well it isn't about winning or losing. It's about getting a deal that they feel is fair.

in the end they are all happy anyhow.... this is why these lock outs are frustrating for fans.

totally agree, though the league will drag until they get more.... and so they should. Players don't take on the risk of losing money.

Superjudge · 08-27-2011, 03:53 PM

nope and the league don't dunk from the foul line!

carp · 08-27-2011, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Superjudge

nope and the league don't dunk from the foul line!

not many do in a game.... lol.

there are always more players looking to get into the league.... there aren't always owners lined up willing to accept the risk.

Superjudge · 08-27-2011, 05:32 PM

meh... i hear ya.

In all reality, it's a dog and pony show with an already forecasted end game. The NBA is almost identical to the NHL, and the cyclical nature of what they need to do is pretty much there to see.

Hell.... remember the hardline the owners took in the NHL lockout.... 45Million hard cap....

Ya its back up to around 60 million already. Players need to look at this and relax

carp · 08-27-2011, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Superjudge

meh... i hear ya.

In all reality, it's a dog and pony show with an already forecasted end game. The NBA is almost identical to the NHL, and the cyclical nature of what they need to do is pretty much there to see.

Hell.... remember the hardline the owners took in the NHL lockout.... 45Million hard cap....

Ya its back up to around 60 million already. Players need to look at this and relax

exactly... though the fear is at some point the owners will forecast correctly!

jeffb · 09-06-2011, 01:46 PM

Sounds somewhat promising...

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Officials from the NBA and the players' union will meet again Wednesday in New York City, according to sources close to the situation.

The meeting will be only the third since the league locked out its players on July 1. But if Wednesday's meeting is productive, sources said the sides are expected to pick up the pace and come together again Thursday and perhaps Friday.

The meeting will include only a handful of representatives from each side, as was the case last week when the parties met for six hours.

Commissioner David Stern, deputy commissioner Adam Silver and San Antonio Spurs owner Peter Holt, the chairman of the owners' labor relations committee, will represent the league. Union director Billy Hunter, counsel Ron Klempner and president Derek Fisher will attend for the players.

While the gulf between the two sides remains huge, sources say the tone of last week's meeting was productive and provided at least a small degree of optimism that the season could be salvaged. With roughly two weeks remaining before training camps would have to be canceled, the sense of urgency to get a deal done has picked up on both sides.

Sources -- NBA, players union to meet again Wednesday - ESPN

Toby · 09-06-2011, 08:11 PM

Chris Broussard hates the Blazers. He must've lost a lotta money on us in a bet or something. Dude refuses to say anything, at all about Portland, except when his coveted classless wannabe thug life Ron Artest lovin' Lakers beat the Blazers.

Derek Fischer and David stern are the same entity, and since the Los Angeles Sterns probably aren't going to make it out of the second round, it's not a bad situation to miss the entire year. Dwight Howard becomes a free agent, and Blake Griffin playing with the Laker's "B" team will only be 1 year away from being promoted, if the entire 2012 season is missed.

Chiggmo · 09-06-2011, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Toby

If Stern had any kahunas, he'd allow the owners to hire scrubs to play out the 2011-12 season making a maximum of league minimum only. Instead of being paid an exuberant lifestyle, even if you stink ass.

The replacements! Awesome movie.

jeffb · 09-07-2011, 05:05 PM

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KBerg_CBS Ken Berger
League and union have wrapped up bargaining session in midtown Manhattan after about five hours. #NBA #lockout

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KBerg_CBS Ken Berger
Two sides have agreed to meet again Thursday and possibly Friday. "I think there is" time to get a deal, union chief Billy Hunter said. #NBA

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KBerg_CBS Ken Berger
Asked if negotiations have evolved to point of compromise, union prez Derek Fisher said, "That's why we're here."
56 minutes ago

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KBerg_CBS Ken Berger
Full Hunter quote, when asked if enough time to reach deal: "I think there is. I think there clearly is. There's more than enough time."
44 minutes ago

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08-26-2011, 08:23 PM	#143 (permalink)
Toby a nacho hound Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: South of Portland, home of the Blazers Posts: 6,064 Representing:	If Stern had any kahunas, he'd allow the owners to hire scrubs to play out the 2011-12 season making a maximum of league minimum only. Instead of being paid an exuberant lifestyle, even if you stink ass.

08-26-2011, 08:35 PM	#144 (permalink)
Superjudge is pounding the rock! Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 17,371 Representing:	id totally watch NBA scab ball!

08-27-2011, 03:16 PM	#147 (permalink)
Superjudge is pounding the rock! Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 17,371 Representing:	Derek Fisher eh...... hmm. Are these people even serious? Is Fisher a smart dude or just there to be a payer rep on hand?

08-27-2011, 03:37 PM	#149 (permalink)
Superjudge is pounding the rock! Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 17,371 Representing:	oh. I was asking because i really don't know. I don't follow closely. Players union reps sometimes are smart dudes and are involved in the discussions. I think they both wanna have something done.... I just think the players don't wanna give, and sadly for them, they are gonna have to give. Hell, if the league folded, the owners write it off.... the players..... well.... there's always rucker park.

08-27-2011, 03:47 PM	#151 (permalink)
Superjudge is pounding the rock! Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 17,371 Representing:	Well it isn't about winning or losing. It's about getting a deal that they feel is fair. in the end they are all happy anyhow.... this is why these lock outs are frustrating for fans.

08-27-2011, 03:53 PM	#153 (permalink)
Superjudge is pounding the rock! Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 17,371 Representing:	nope and the league don't dunk from the foul line!

08-27-2011, 05:32 PM	#155 (permalink)
Superjudge is pounding the rock! Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 17,371 Representing:	meh... i hear ya. In all reality, it's a dog and pony show with an already forecasted end game. The NBA is almost identical to the NHL, and the cyclical nature of what they need to do is pretty much there to see. Hell.... remember the hardline the owners took in the NHL lockout.... 45Million hard cap.... Ya its back up to around 60 million already. Players need to look at this and relax

09-06-2011, 08:11 PM	#158 (permalink)
Toby a nacho hound Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: South of Portland, home of the Blazers Posts: 6,064 Representing:	Chris Broussard hates the Blazers. He must've lost a lotta money on us in a bet or something. Dude refuses to say anything, at all about Portland, except when his coveted classless wannabe thug life Ron Artest lovin' Lakers beat the Blazers. Derek Fischer and David stern are the same entity, and since the Los Angeles Sterns probably aren't going to make it out of the second round, it's not a bad situation to miss the entire year. Dwight Howard becomes a free agent, and Blake Griffin playing with the Laker's "B" team will only be 1 year away from being promoted, if the entire 2012 season is missed.