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Shadowfax 07-06-2011 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill Haverchuck (Post 557640)
The NBA's response to the NY Times article:



LINK - NBA.com

owned
say goodbye to next season...this is going to be a long one

and imho, this is not about money...never has been
this is about control...the owners want it back and they WILL get it

Psi 07-06-2011 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill Haverchuck (Post 557640)
The NBA's response to the NY Times article:



LINK - NBA.com

If Stern said it, it's likely a lie.
There's no way the NBA is in this bad a situation without the owners themselves screwing up all over the place.
And even if they did, it's their own fault.

jeffb 07-11-2011 10:22 PM

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In 2010, NBA.com took in nearly $22 million in advertising revenue, according to estimates provided by Barclays Capital.

It is an 88% increase from a year earlier, when NBA.com produced $11.7 million in ad revenue. In 2008, it took in $6.2 million.

In addition, traffic on NBA.com has grown steadily.

In May, NBA.com attracted 12.2 million unique visitors, up 47% from May 2009, when it had 8.3 million, according to research firm comScore Inc.
NBA Removes Player Images - WSJ.com

jeffb 07-20-2011 01:43 PM

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While the basketball world was obsessed Tuesday with the release of an NBA schedule that may never happen, CBSSports.com has learned that the owners and players may not convene for another full-blown collective bargaining session until August.

It is up for interpretation, however, whether that would put the two sides behind the negotiating pace set during the 1998-99 lockout. Back then, it was 37 days between the imposition of the lockout on July 1 and the next bargaining session on Aug. 6.

But this time, the two sides have met once at the staff level -- last Friday -- and are scheduled to gather again this Friday for a second meeting. In the smaller sessions, which have not included commissioner David Stern or union chief Billy Hunter, the focus has shifted from the larger economic issues that led to the labor impasse to smaller-ticket system items such as how a new salary cap would be structured, according to sources familiar with the negotiations.

The highest-ranking figures involved in the smaller staff meetings have been deputy commissioner Adam Silver and Ron Klempner, associate general counsel for the National Basketball Players Association.

Full labor session not likely before August - CBSSports.com

jeffb 07-27-2011 09:43 PM

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On Tuesday, Tom Ziller of SB Nation reported that the NBA players’ union and league officials were planning the first official post-lockout collective bargaining talks for some time in the first two weeks of August. That meeting will take place next week, barring some unforeseen scheduling issue, according to two sources familiar with the matter. It could take place as early as Monday, depending on how the schedules of a few key figures shake out, according to one of the sources.

Staff members from each side, including some top officials, have met twice since the lockout took effect on July 1 to finalize the 2010-11 basketball-related income figure, discuss possible structures for a new salary cap and schedule future meetings. But those sessions have not involved several key players, including NBA commissioner David Stern, union executive director Billy Hunter and top outside counsel for both sides.

Experts consider the two sides to be far apart in a dispute that centers on how the league should split revenues with players. Under the just-expired collective bargaining agreement, players were guaranteed 57 percent of all basketball-related income, and the league recently had to fork over $162 million in escrow funds and an additional $26 million to make sure player salaries for the 2010-11 hit that mark. League officials have claimed that the 57 percent figure is too high, and that 22 of the league’s 30 teams have lost money over the last two years as a result of player salaries and rising expenses. Just before the lockout went into effect, players offered to accept a shade more than 54 percent of BRI, but that was not enough of a compromise for the league and its owners.

The Point Forward Posts NBA owners, players likely to meet next week

Chiggmo 07-27-2011 11:17 PM

They can meet all they want, it probably won't go anywhere at all.

jeffb 07-27-2011 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiggmo (Post 562368)
They can meet all they want, it probably won't go anywhere at all.

Not anytime soon that's for sure. But it's something i guess.

Chiggmo 07-27-2011 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffb (Post 562369)
Not anytime soon that's for sure. But it's something i guess.

Ya I suppose so, but I'm not expecting them to even get started on settling anything till next year.

forme123 07-28-2011 12:18 AM

I am currently going through free agency withdrawal....

Toby 07-29-2011 12:10 AM

Makin' a list, checkin' it twice, gonna find out who's listened to Stern's bad advice.

NBA has got to, cut teams :sigh:

6cubed 07-29-2011 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Toby (Post 562587)
Makin' a list, checkin' it twice, gonna find out who's listened to Stern's bad advice.

NBA has got to, cut teams :sigh:

Which ones? Toronto stands well financially and attendance wise but no FA wants to play here... reminds me of the Kansas City Royals

Toby 07-29-2011 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by 6cubed (Post 562589)
Which ones? Toronto stands well financially and attendance wise but no FA wants to play here... reminds me of the Kansas City Royals

Toronto is safe easy. I think they were one of the few "green" teams last season.
Off the top, not tryin' to be a hater:
Pistons
Bobcats
Kings
Memphis
New Orleans

Teams on the extended cut list:
Nets
Clippers
Minnesota
Orlando (after Dwight goes to the Lakers)

Superjudge 07-29-2011 10:21 PM

February is earliest possible start... but the season is likely done. Says my source!

Toby 07-29-2011 11:18 PM

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The owners have projected $300 million in losses for the current year, including approximately $130 million in interest payments. The players don't believe they should be held accountable for loans taken on by owners who couldn't otherwise afford to buy their teams.

Read more: Distrust of NBA, overseas prospects*weigh on*labor negotiations - Ian Thomsen - SI.com

jeffb 08-02-2011 02:55 PM

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One month after the lockout began, NBA owners and players have resumed talks toward a new collective bargaining agreement.

Representatives have met since July 1, but this is the first meeting involving David Stern, Billy Hunter and Derek Fisher. Theo Ratliff also joined the meeting.

The season is scheduled to start on Nov. 1.
David Stern, Derek Fisher join NBA labor talks for first time - ESPN

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Accusing the players of failing to bargain "in good faith" and of "impermissible pressure tactics" in labor talks, the NBA has filed an unfair labor practice charge and a federal lawsuit against the NBA Players Association.

The claims were filed Tuesday.

The unfair labor practice charge was filed with the National Labor Relations Board. It accuses the players of making "unlawful" threats to break up their union and pursue an antitrust lawsuit against the NBA, a strategy used this year by NFL players to fight their lockout.

The lawsuit was filed in federal district court in New York. It asks the court to declare the NBA lockout does not break antitrust laws. The NBA also says it wants to void existing player contracts if the NBPA sheds its union status.
NBA takes legal action against locked-out players | NBA.com

JoeyJoJo Shabbadu 08-02-2011 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Toby (Post 562767)
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The owners have projected $300 million in losses for the current year, including approximately $130 million in interest payments. The players don't believe they should be held accountable for loans taken on by owners who couldn't otherwise afford to buy their teams.[/url]

That is one of the stupidest things I've ever heard. Players are dreaming and doomed. Hunter is going to be toasted right after. They learned nothing from the NHL lockout.

carp 08-02-2011 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeyJoJo Shabbadu (Post 563268)
That is one of the stupidest things I've ever heard. Players are dreaming and doomed. Hunter is going to be toasted right after. They learned nothing from the NHL lockout.

I bet they're assuming those teams sold at less than market value though too.

raptorsfan345 08-02-2011 03:43 PM

sick song


JoeyJoJo Shabbadu 08-02-2011 06:56 PM

NBA files unfair labour practice charge against NBAPA

js12 08-02-2011 06:58 PM

I was just gonna post.

This isn't going to help at all. "Don't want to go down the NFL route" my asshole. (though the NFL manage to save their season after all lol)


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