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Old 10-05-2011, 12:24 PM   #261 (permalink)
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Old 10-05-2011, 02:28 PM   #262 (permalink)
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Old 10-05-2011, 02:50 PM   #263 (permalink)
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with football and hockey I will be preoccupied until February anyways :cookie: and then there's college ball
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Old 10-05-2011, 03:41 PM   #264 (permalink)
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I can't believe the players wouldn't take the 50-50 split. Man, who else are you going to work for that guarantees employees half the profits revenue? And by the way, hold you responsible for zero percent of the losses.
this. owners assume ALL risk..... they should be getting more of the rewards, imo.
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Old 10-05-2011, 03:41 PM   #265 (permalink)
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Old 10-05-2011, 03:51 PM   #266 (permalink)
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this. owners assume ALL risk..... they should be getting more of the rewards, imo.
Don't they get a lot of sweetheart deals from municipalities? Don't they get to just write-off any losses, even when they are just created through accounting tricks? Aren't they assured of a 10-20 percent return on their investment no matter how much they might deserve it or not? I don't see that much risk. There is an imbalance of rewards from franchise to franchise, and it's pretty gigantic. So they want to paper that over by taking a huge chunk of the player's share? I guess it's smart if they can do it, but it hardly strengthens the league. In the end you get problem avoidance from both the agents and the owners with the rich tv contracts. If that's what is deemed worthy of cancelling a season, then fuck it altogether.
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Old 10-05-2011, 04:28 PM   #267 (permalink)
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Don't they get a lot of sweetheart deals from municipalities? Don't they get to just write-off any losses, even when they are just created through accounting tricks? Aren't they assured of a 10-20 percent return on their investment no matter how much they might deserve it or not? I don't see that much risk. There is an imbalance of rewards from franchise to franchise, and it's pretty gigantic. So they want to paper that over by taking a huge chunk of the player's share? I guess it's smart if they can do it, but it hardly strengthens the league. In the end you get problem avoidance from both the agents and the owners with the rich tv contracts. If that's what is deemed worthy of cancelling a season, then fuck it altogether.
1.No
2.No
3.No

The imbalance of rewards is fine, and the owners do not have a problem with it. Its when some clubs can't afford to stay around anymore. Why would somebody stay owning a team (even if there loses are mitigated by business rules) losing money.

It doesn't make any sense.

I will agree that the owners create most of these messes themselves in pro-sports but they should also be able to change the rules if they want. If my company was losing money and they asked me to reduce my salary or lose my job I would have the following options.

1.) Lose my job
2.) Take a pay cut
3.) Find a new Job.

For the record I do not make MILLIONS OF DOLLARS A YEAR
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Old 10-05-2011, 04:41 PM   #268 (permalink)
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Wheww! I was wondering.......thanks for clearing that up.
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Old 10-05-2011, 04:48 PM   #269 (permalink)
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1.No
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3.No

The imbalance of rewards is fine, and the owners do not have a problem with it. Its when some clubs can't afford to stay around anymore. Why would somebody stay owning a team (even if there loses are mitigated by business rules) losing money.

It doesn't make any sense.

I will agree that the owners create most of these messes themselves in pro-sports but they should also be able to change the rules if they want. If my company was losing money and they asked me to reduce my salary or lose my job I would have the following options.

1.) Lose my job
2.) Take a pay cut
3.) Find a new Job.

For the record I do not make MILLIONS OF DOLLARS A YEAR
So what owner has lost so much money that they can't make a go of it? There was the ownership in NO, and they got bailed out by the other owners.

Why is there a team in OKC instead of Seattle? Because Seattle refused to continue offering the privilege of a free stadium. That's one of many examples. I'm not sure how naive you expect me to be by answering no there. And I would ave to be even more naive to believe that any kind of losses don't get written off. Please tell me about all the taxes these guys pay. And if you bought a team you could be assured of a big return. If you're going to say no, then show me all those teams that didn't gain in value. And you might want to go back a few posts and see where all these questions are clearly and concisely answered hell yes.
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Old 10-05-2011, 05:12 PM   #270 (permalink)
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Old 10-05-2011, 05:42 PM   #271 (permalink)
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Old 10-05-2011, 05:57 PM   #272 (permalink)
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This would be nice, but i have my doubts!
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Old 10-05-2011, 06:12 PM   #273 (permalink)
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Source Weekend Could Produce 51 49 Split - RealGM Wiretap

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Old 10-05-2011, 06:24 PM   #274 (permalink)
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Sources say the 'Super Seven' agents, who wrote a letter to their clients this week asking them to resist making a bad deal with the owners, are working on the details of a conference call to discuss the collective bargaining agreement.

Participants would include Arn Tellem, Billy Duffy, Mark Bartelstein, Dan Fegan, Jeff Schwartz, Leon Rose and Henry Thomas.

Monday's letter advised the players not to ratify any deal that includes a reduction in basketball-related income beyond the 57 percent or any other systematic changes from the last collective bargaining agreement, which expired July 1.


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Richard Hamilton is upset with agent Leon Rose for his participation with a group of agents that have essentially undermined the leaders of the NBPA, according to a source.

Hamilton has told Rose that he will leave the agency and take other players with him if Rose doesn't leave the "anti-union" group of agents.

Hamilton is one of Rose's most long tenured clients and helped him grow his agency.

Rose is agent to LeBron James and Carmelo Anthony, amongst others.

Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap...#ixzz1ZwuA6jt4

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Old 10-05-2011, 10:36 PM   #275 (permalink)
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with football and hockey I will be preoccupied until February anyways :cookie: and then there's college ball
yup better get used to watching austin rivers becuase hes gonna be rocking red october 2012
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Old 10-05-2011, 10:49 PM   #276 (permalink)
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NBA franchises are like rare pieces of art, there are only 30 of them. You lose money maintaining it but sell it at a higher price in the future.

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Old 10-06-2011, 02:26 AM   #277 (permalink)
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lets hope for 82 games
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Old 10-06-2011, 03:42 AM   #278 (permalink)
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less games means a greater chance in having a better record... we need a top 5 pick
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Old 10-06-2011, 07:39 AM   #279 (permalink)
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think how many rookies there's gonna be if they cancel the NBA this season
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Old 10-06-2011, 08:43 AM   #280 (permalink)
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Thought this tweet from Amare was hilarious.

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Met with the NBA owners today, made no progress. We as players are a lot smarter then they think. We are prepared to boycott. #StandProud
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