Lebron, the biggest loser
Old 05-31-2009, 02:16 AM   #1 (permalink)
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According to numerous reports, he didnt even fly back with the team(or go aboard the team bus after the game), instead stayed in ORL with his mom.

And of course, not shaking hands and doing post game interviews for the 2nd year in a row.

And he quit in the 2nd half.

Way to go Lebron.

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Old 05-31-2009, 02:17 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 05-31-2009, 02:23 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Old 05-31-2009, 08:38 AM   #4 (permalink)
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LeBron shot 8 for 20, 2 for 8 at the three point line. Howard shot 14 for 21. If LeBron went 14 for 20, similar to Howard, then the Cavs would be going to game 7.

LeBron choked. MVP wasn't the MVP when his team needed him to be.
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Old 05-31-2009, 08:52 AM   #5 (permalink)
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he'll praly use this as an excuse to say his team is not good enough and that theres only so much he can do....after which he will ask to be traded or leave lol.

You get paid like a star, show up like a star when it counts my man. You have the tools!

He's still an awesome player but totally dropped the ball in that game.
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Old 05-31-2009, 11:08 AM   #6 (permalink)
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HAHA damn right Lebron go back home
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Old 05-31-2009, 11:16 AM   #7 (permalink)
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LeBron shot 8 for 20, 2 for 8 at the three point line. Howard shot 14 for 21. If LeBron went 14 for 20, similar to Howard, then the Cavs would be going to game 7.

LeBron choked. MVP wasn't the MVP when his team needed him to be.
But Lebron's team wasn't there when he needed them to be. Lebron has been bailing his teammates' choking asses out all the way through the playoffs, but Orlando isn't Detroit or Atlanta.

Playoff basketball is a grind compared to the regular season, and Mo Williams showed that when it actually comes down to getting it done, he's a lame excuse for a second option. What was Lebron supposed to do when a guy who's been relied on to make big shots all year all of a sudden can't hit the broad side of a barn?

On top of Mo, Delonte West was okay if unspectacular, and Big Z was just a non-factor. The Cavs loss has much less to do with Lebron "choking" than it does everyone else not pulling their weight. Believe that.

Fact is, Lebron had one bad game and his team couldn't afford it.

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Old 05-31-2009, 12:01 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I guess he should do a better job getting looks for his teammates
Mr MVP had a game. A game with proper refs.
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Old 05-31-2009, 12:36 PM   #9 (permalink)
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The game happened when LeBron looked like Kobe circa 2003. He didn't play within the team instead tried to do too much and basically told his teammates he didn't trust them. I mean there was one play where he took the 24 second shot clock to make up his mind to do something and didn't look once to play within his team.

As great of a player he is, he shouldn't be missing FT's and has to learn to trust his mates.
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Old 05-31-2009, 01:27 PM   #10 (permalink)
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You don't put up triple doubles and average seven assists for a season by not trusting your teammates. I think he trusted them just fine - until they choked the camel and stopped hitting shots for him completely.

The attention Lebron attracts often leaves as many as two guys open, so in Lebron's case it's hard not to spread the love. But when your teammates aren't hitting shots they normally do and you're arguably the greatest player in the world, I can imagine it being very difficult to want to pass to your teammates. I do agree that he may have tried to do too much at times, but I can't say I blame him.
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You don't put up triple doubles and average seven assists for a season by not trusting your teammates. I think he trusted them just fine - until they choked the camel and stopped hitting shots for him completely.

The attention Lebron attracts often leaves as many as two guys open, so in Lebron's case it's hard not to spread the love. But when your teammates aren't hitting shots they normally do and you're arguably the greatest player in the world, I can imagine it being very difficult to want to pass to your teammates. I do agree that he may have tried to do too much at times, but I can't say I blame him.
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Old 05-31-2009, 01:46 PM   #12 (permalink)
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According to numerous reports, he didnt even fly back with the team(or go aboard the team bus after the game), instead stayed in ORL with his mom.

And of course, not shaking hands and doing post game interviews for the 2nd year in a row.

And he quit in the 2nd half.

Way to go Lebron.

In terms of not traveling back with the team. The season is over. Who cares? I don't care if he gives an interview or not. He's not obligated to do so. If was as upset as he appeared to be then it was a smart move, to not put his foot in his mouth. The rest of it, blah...He's 23. He had a really good season. His team played well. His time will come, just not now.
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Old 05-31-2009, 04:03 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Old 05-31-2009, 04:54 PM   #14 (permalink)
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pure haters, yea only a series for the ages, what was it, 39/8/8??? yea, clearly he is a choke artist... stfu

as for staying with his mom, big deal?? he hates losing, it hurts him in a personal way, you better wish on a star the Raptors get a player or players like that one day, but no, be content with your team full of guys that lose with a smile, ahhh classy

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If I was playing 45 minutes a night, bailing my team out constantly for every game, then yeah, I'd be a little tired after 6 games. I wouldn't really call it a choke. The guy just ran out of gas from carrying his team.

Honestly, it's not like his supporting cast is god awful. Mo Williams, West and the others pretty much just stopped playing ball after the first two rounds for some reason.
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Old 05-31-2009, 05:08 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Mo and Delonte showed up last night
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Old 05-31-2009, 05:13 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Well they needed to show up for the other games instead of relying on LeBron exerting all of his energy for the other 5 games.
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Old 05-31-2009, 06:55 PM   #18 (permalink)
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the dude is 24 and only played 8 games in the first two rounds, and it's not like playoff games are back to backs. People his age in his physical condition don't get tired.
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People will go on and on making excuses for LeBron based on the talent there.

To me, the problem is that the offense is too predicated on LeBron James, and there was so little offensive chemistry on this round, in particular because LeBron was too involved. This is partly LeBron's fault and a lot Mike Brown's fault.
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You may have a point. Even Michael Jordon didn't win any championships until the Bulls found him a couple legit running mates and convinced him to play more off the ball and share through the triangle offense. They didn't lose that series because of LeBron James though and anyone who suggests other wise better come packing with a strong airtight argument. James battled really hard and tried his best.

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the dude is 24 and only played 8 games in the first two rounds, and it's not like playoff games are back to backs. People his age in his physical condition don't get tired.
Yes, they do. He hasn't had a break since the summer of 2007. He's been balling and practicing hardcore for two years. He needs to take a break this off-season and come back refreshed. We, as Raptors fans, should be able to appreciate this more than any other group of fans. We've seen Bosh have his struggles this season after not taking a break in the off-season. We witnessed Calderon struggle through injuries and inconsistency after not taking a break last off-season. We saw Jorge Garbajosa be forced out the door because he would not take a break in the off-season which led to more complications when the regular season rolled around. We saw Andrea Bargnani struggle mightily in his sophomore season after not taking a break and playing for his national team in the off-season.

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